Gaming Assassin's Creed: Valhalla

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Isn't the design of the game that you HAVE to do the side quests to level up for the main quests?
A bit, although you level up from plenty of things. el3mel was complaining of being overpowered
, so you deffo don’t need to do that many
 

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Isn't the design of the game that you HAVE to do the side quests to level up for the main quests?
Nope. Leveling isn't a problem at all. I fully watched Skill Up review yesterday after I was done with the main story and while I agree with the video title and many many points he said, I was honestly surprised he was under leveled so much for the last bonus area.

The problem is the main story itself drags with fillers that are unfortunately main quests, and if you dodge them at one point you will have to complete them later to progress the story and open the new areas.

Some story arcs should have been optional side quests lines and that would have been much better.

It's weird. The story itself is much shorter than both Origins and Odyssey but it is stretched by fillers.
 

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Not enjoying it is a big of a stretch I will say, otherwise I wouldn't have managed to reach such time. Overstaying its welcome is the right phrase here.

First 40-50 hours were great, then fillers start to become way too much and the story dragged like hell.

The game has about 16-17 story arcs that you will have to complete to finish the main story. None of them are optional. Many of them were absolute fillers that the characters you meet in them will never be seen again. Some of them had terribly boring story. Think of this as a long TV show series that has many arcs. I want to know what will happen to the main characters, but I have to literally stop and do some terrible story arc about a husband and wife who have become cold to each other and needed a change in their life! BS.

Some of these arcs should have been cut from the game and the game would have been much better. It should have ended at around 50-60 hours mark. It's crazy to say but Valhalla is probably twice the size of Odyssey.

I really liked the ending and I feel it was at least worth the wait but that doesn't change the fact the game really overstayed its welcome for me.

I will rate it 7/10 even though during the first 40 hours it was a solid 8.
Yeah fair enough that’s a legitimate complaint I’m only pulling your leg ;)
 

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I'm probably c.power level 75-80 at the minute, having got allegiances in a couple of territories.

I randomly took a potion of a new laden Raventhorpe and i've found myself in Asgard. Not sure im strong enough for this area yet, but i can't see how i get back to England.

I read online, that if i do couple of missions in Asgard, i should have a symbol in my map that allows me to get back to England - is this right? Ideally, it want to progress more of the story before moving to Asgard...
 

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I'm probably c.power level 75-80 at the minute, having got allegiances in a couple of territories.

I randomly took a potion of a new laden Raventhorpe and i've found myself in Asgard. Not sure im strong enough for this area yet, but i can't see how i get back to England.

I read online, that if i do couple of missions in Asgard, i should have a symbol in my map that allows me to get back to England - is this right? Ideally, it want to progress more of the story before moving to Asgard...
Yeah it’s right. Pretty sure you are strong enough to be there. I did at least half of it before that point
 

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Yeah it’s right. Pretty sure you are strong enough to be there. I did at least half of it before that point
Thanks mate - i've not managed to do any of the missions there, but expected i was going to get battered there!

Hopefully, the option to travel between England / Asgard becomes more obvious after a while!
 

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Thanks mate - i've not managed to do any of the missions there, but expected i was going to get battered there!

Hopefully, the option to travel between England / Asgard becomes more obvious after a while!
After you do the first mission there's a wake up icon that appears on map, hold the button on it and you get back to real world. You need to do the first mission only.
 

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Thinking of getting this but have never played any of the AC games. Can you still get into it or do you need to have played the previous games?
 

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Thinking of getting this but have never played any of the AC games. Can you still get into it or do you need to have played the previous games?
The only ones that had any continuation were the Ezio trilogy, they were great, you should check them out. Prime AC. but yeah, AC from that point on could all be played without any bother, separate stories at this point so you won’t be lost or anything. Odyssey was brilliant too.
 

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They're pretty much standalone games these days, you could always jump into any of them anyway tbh.
The only ones that had any continuation were the Ezio trilogy, they were great, you should check them out. Prime AC. but yeah, AC from that point on could all be played without any bother, separate stories at this point so you won’t be lost or anything. Odyssey was brilliant too.
Cheers lads.
 

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Thinking of getting this but have never played any of the AC games. Can you still get into it or do you need to have played the previous games?
Just to add to the others, If anything you will enjoy this game more because you won’t be bogged down in the same AC formula. What’s putting me off this is the scale and similarity to the previous games but if you haven’t touched them I think you’ll be very happy with this.
 

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Thinking of getting this but have never played any of the AC games. Can you still get into it or do you need to have played the previous games?
I'm a first time player of AC - it needs some time to get used to it and the story scenes do drag a bit at first. It does start to get really enjoyable though once you get a higher power, faster at fighting etc.
 

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I'm gonna come back to this and leave Cyberpunk til the next gen update.
 

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Just to add to the others, If anything you will enjoy this game more because you won’t be bogged down in the same AC formula. What’s putting me off this is the scale and similarity to the previous games but if you haven’t touched them I think you’ll be very happy with this.
I'm a first time player of AC - it needs some time to get used to it and the story scenes do drag a bit at first. It does start to get really enjoyable though once you get a higher power, faster at fighting etc.
I'm sold. Will give this a download later - thanks guys.
 

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Thinking of getting this but have never played any of the AC games. Can you still get into it or do you need to have played the previous games?
You'll miss some fan service at the end but you'll mostly be fine.
 

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Thank you. Are there any other games from this franchise you’d recommend?
Of course, try to play the Ezio trilogy (AC2, Brotherhood and Revelations), Black Flag and Unity. They're the best in the series for me in no order. Origins is worth a shot as well.
 

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115 hours in and 92% trophies now so close to platinum. Just 3 left to get.

1. Catch all types of fish
2. Win all orlog games
3. Get thors hammer.
 

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I got this the other day and I’m surprisingly enjoying it. I found the combat a little janky compared to AC Odyessy but I’ve settled on duel wielding axes and that’s much more fun. Also modelled my Viking on Ragnar Lothbrook from the Vikings TV series and he looks fantastic. Only issue is I have to wear the rags at the moment as that’s the only armour that looks accurate.
 

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Does anyone have any tips on beating the three witch sisters (or whatever they are).

Im level 180ish but get my arse handed to me repeatedly by them.
There was only one that gave me issues but they can be tricky, they do attack in patterns though so learn their attack routine. Plus try maintain stamina, parry often to slow them down and you need some patience.
 

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Does anyone have any tips on beating the three witch sisters (or whatever they are).

Im level 180ish but get my arse handed to me repeatedly by them.
I did them when I was around 350 power level. I'll suggest to leave them till the very end.
 

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I did them when I was around 350 power level. I'll suggest to leave them till the very end.
I may have to - I wanted to get Thor’s armour which is why I thought I’d try and beat them.

Seemed like there’s be little point in leaving it too late as little left to achieve with the better armour etc.

On that point is there an armour set you’d recommend using from my sort of level 180-190 through the latter half of the game?
 

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I may have to - I wanted to get Thor’s armour which is why I thought I’d try and beat them.

Seemed like there’s be little point in leaving it too late as little left to achieve with the better armour etc.

On that point is there an armour set you’d recommend using from my sort of level 180-190 through the latter half of the game?
I pretty much finished the entire game using the Raven Clan armor you start the game with. :lol: I found it the most balanced one. It doesn't really seem to focus that much on which gear you have unlike Odyssey, as long as you keep it upgraded regularly anything would be enough.

Regarding Thor's armor, without any spoiler, it seems for me like an armor set for the upcoming DLCs because you get the very last part of it at the very last minute of the game's story, which will open the possibility to get Thor's hammer but at this point you won't find anything to use these on, which is a big shame.
 

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I pretty much finished the entire game using the Raven Clan armor you start the game with. :lol: I found it the most balanced one. It doesn't really seem to focus that much on which gear you have unlike Odyssey, as long as you keep it upgraded regularly anything would be enough.

Regarding Thor's armor, without any spoiler, it seems for me like an armor set for the upcoming DLCs because you get the very last part of it at the very last minute of the game's story, which will open the possibility to get Thor's hammer but at this point you won't find anything to use these on, which is a big shame.
Ah ok - thanks! I assumed I’d need to really think about balanced armour / weapons as the game develops.

I’m amazed at the grind with this one. I’m probably 48 hours in and reckon I’ll still be going another 50 hours before I get close to completing it.
 

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Ah ok - thanks! I assumed I’d need to really think about balanced armour / weapons as the game develops.

I’m amazed at the grind with this one. I’m probably 48 hours in and reckon I’ll still be going another 50 hours before I get close to completing it.
Yeah it's bloated, Skillup wasn't wrong about this point in his review. There's no area on the map that's optional, actually, you'll have to do everything for the main story. Some areas play out like big fillers but you'll still have do them, which makes me wonder why they didn't make the filler areas just optional questlines.
 
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I may have to - I wanted to get Thor’s armour which is why I thought I’d try and beat them.

Seemed like there’s be little point in leaving it too late as little left to achieve with the better armour etc.

On that point is there an armour set you’d recommend using from my sort of level 180-190 through the latter half of the game?
You have to be extremely patient to beat the sisters and definitely have the "brush with death" skill. Can't just mash the attack button and have to read their patterns well. Like @el3mel said, best to leave it till end of the game for most straightforward experience.

On another note, I am going the completionist route and am currently near level 300 with about 92 hours invested so far. Completing every minor and major landmark (wealth, minor chests, artifacts, mysteries with exception of the last 2 daughters of lerion) has meant that I'm only at Suthsexe and still have several regions to go. I actually prefer this grind to Odyssey, where it felt like there were a lot of random missions that always got regenerated, but it is still a long road.
 

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Ah ok - thanks! I assumed I’d need to really think about balanced armour / weapons as the game develops.

I’m amazed at the grind with this one. I’m probably 48 hours in and reckon I’ll still be going another 50 hours before I get close to completing it.

Im on 130 hours and ive only got 1 fish to catch for the platinum trophy. I can't though as its bugged so just waiting for a patch.

You can use any armour and weapons for most of the game. I went with the double dagger most of the game as it kills in a frenzy.
 

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Im on 130 hours and ive only got 1 fish to catch for the platinum trophy. I can't though as its bugged so just waiting for a patch.

You can use any armour and weapons for most of the game. I went with the double dagger most of the game as it kills in a frenzy.
You’d do well to platinum these games!

Any advice on fishing? Seems to be total pot luck. Do different fish spawn in different areas for example?
 

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You’d do well to platinum these games!

Any advice on fishing? Seems to be total pot luck. Do different fish spawn in different areas for example?

Yes different types spawn in certain areas but the ocean fish are generally bugged which is why I can't get the last fish. There are guides online though, I had to use one to find the exact locations.
 

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Gave the game a chance and just finished it talk about overstaying your welcome makes red dead redemption seem reasonable, the game is far too long and the ending is dreadful.
 

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Ended up buying this in the psn sale atfer promising myself not to bother. I didnt love the previous one but still put 100 hours into it so I probaly will get my moneys worth

Do you folks prefer this one or Odyssey?
 

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Ended up buying this in the psn sale atfer promising myself not to bother. I didnt love the previous one but still put 100 hours into it so I probaly will get my moneys worth

Do you folks prefer this one or Odyssey?
Definitely this. I loved Origins, then found Odyssey bloated in structure and overly long in length.
Valhalla isn’t short by any stretch of the imagination but seems more streamlined. Albeit I haven’t finished it yet, so it may drag, but the side missions are mostly removed or changed to “world events” which helps, ship combat has been removed etc.
And on a personal note, the ancient Greeks didn’t do it for me.

I appreciate this is a direct contrast to @Bosws87 above
 

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Apparently less than 20% of players on Xbox/PS have completed this (or have the achievement for getting to the final ‘zone’ on the map. Is it too big?

Not sure if I’m going to come back to it or not myself.
 

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Ended up buying this in the psn sale atfer promising myself not to bother. I didnt love the previous one but still put 100 hours into it so I probaly will get my moneys worth

Do you folks prefer this one or Odyssey?
Love this way more. Odyssey was overkill with the weapons and armor you would constantly collect. Not many in this one and you level up what you like. World was nicer in Odyssey, but still really well done in Valhalla (not their fault, Norway is gorgeous, England just isn't as nice as the Mediterranean scene).