Steven Seagull
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Very surprised he's been charged for that. Kicking a ball from under a ballboy isn't a violent offence in my book. Ho hum
FA state that a 3 match ban is "clearly insufficient" but the same ban was sufficient for Barton punching Pederson in the chest and Fellaini's vicious headbutt on Shawcross.Very surprised he's been charged for that. Kicking a ball from under a ballboy isn't a violent offence in my book. Ho hum
When, where and by whom has it been established?He knew the ball was on the other side and kicked the ribs of the boy as has been established. Doubt there will be too many games added, but it was clearly worse than a red card
When did this happen? BTW your post is spot on. The FA are a joke!FA state that a 3 match ban is "clearly insufficient" but the same ban was sufficient for Barton punching Pederson in the chest and Fellaini's vicious headbutt on Shawcross.
This country and the media within it have gone quite mad. Whilst the incident itself was distasteful, the predictable wall to wall media coverage, South Wales Police headline hunting non-stop tweeting on the incident, complaints coming in from people in Sussex and Kent watching the game on Sky + and the likes of Hulk Hogan chiming in with an opinion rather have turned a distasteful incident into an extremely unedifying one.
I would think it would be more shocking if they weren'tIndeed, RisingSun, it must be quite the new experience to see your beloved club involved in an "unedifying incident".
Sadly it isn't - but that shouldn't prejudice the treatment of Hazard, who is clearly not a dirty or violent player and in my opinion was acting only with intent to get the ball and not to hurt/harm - unlike Barton and Fellaini.Indeed, RisingSun, it must be quite the new experience to see your beloved club involved in an "unedifying incident".
I don't know whether to laugh or cry."The young guy on the sidelines may as well have thrown the ball into the crowd.
"That would have been more convincing and would really have held up the action.
"But he might have got his butt kicked even more," joked the former 12 time world champ.
"I dont think [Hazard] kicked him hard enough. [Morgan] shouldn't be interfering with play like that."
I'm not sure he's even noticed.I watched football in the 70's too and never remember seeing a player kick a ball boy like Hazard did...and before you moan on about him toe poking the ball...the ball was under the lad...out of sight...so any toe poke will have meant Hazard also made contact with the lad.
And that's the violent conduct he was rightly sent off for.
Stupid incident that Hazard caused and in which he wasted much more time than any ball boy did that day.
(Nice white text Neviller)
Yet it's usually the Chelsea players/club at the front of this circusTrial by tabloid. Injury feigning ballboys. Wall to wall media hysteria. Police "tweeting" non-stop about incidents on a football pitch. People complaining to the police from their sofas about something which had nothing to do with them. Hulk Hogan chucking in his tuppence worth.
Welcome to modern football - an utter fecking circus.
You've just described the circus caused by and surrounding Chelsea FC perfectly!Trial by tabloid. Injury feigning ballboys. Wall to wall media hysteria. Police "tweeting" non-stop about incidents on a football pitch. People complaining to the police from their sofas about something which had nothing to do with them. Hulk Hogan chucking in his tuppence worth.
Welcome to modern football - an utter fecking circus.
And footballers kicking children, don't forget that part. It didn't happen in my day.bite again?Trial by tabloid. Injury feigning ballboys. Wall to wall media hysteria. Police "tweeting" non-stop about incidents on a football pitch. People complaining to the police from their sofas about something which had nothing to do with them. Hulk Hogan chucking in his tuppence worth.
Welcome to modern football - an utter fecking circus.
I agree that we don't do ourselves any favours, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's just Chelsea FC. It's the same when anything happens. 24 hour rolling sports news channels with nothing else to do than fan the flames of issues. It was the same when Rooney swore into the camera. They tried to do the same when United sang "always the victim" at Anfield earlier this season, constantly replaying it with subtitled implying that it was a direct reference to the Hillsborough tragedy. It will be the same the next time a United player is involved in something.You've just described the circus caused by and surrounding Chelsea FC perfectly!
You're not wrong. Just turn off SSN for a few days and it will all go away. I can't be arsed with it anymore. I've even looked forward to Dharmesh Sheth and his fecking transfer window spending TV since the Hazard incident, and that's saying somethingI agree that we don't do ourselves any favours, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's just Chelsea FC. It's the same when anything happens. 24 hour rolling sports news channels with nothing else to do than fan the flames of issues. It was the same when Rooney swore into the camera. They tried to do the same when United sang "always the victim" at Anfield earlier this season, constantly replaying it with subtitled implying that it was a direct reference to the Hillsborough tragedy. It will be the same the next time a United player is involved in something.
It's a sad state of affairs, reflective of the whole society and not just one football club.
yeah, we get involved in multiple dodgy cases a season don't we?I agree that we don't do ourselves any favours, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's just Chelsea FC. It's the same when anything happens. 24 hour rolling sports news channels with nothing else to do than fan the flames of issues. It was the same when Rooney swore into the camera. They tried to do the same when United sang "always the victim" at Anfield earlier this season, constantly replaying it with subtitled implying that it was a direct reference to the Hillsborough tragedy. It will be the same the next time a United player is involved in something.
Now you really are talking utter bollocks. The media nonsense surrounding this might be, but your entire club is rotten to the core and no amount of finger pointing elsewhere can take away from that.It's a sad state of affairs, reflective of the whole society and not just one football club.
Because he wasn't expecting the ballboy to feign injury and make imploring faces at the referee to maximise the repercussions, was he?Are people trying to lie to themselves or to others here??
There is no way anybody can be convinced that he only kicked him because "he was just trying to get the ball". That's absurd. He was clearly kicking him in frustration.. Don't act stupid. Look at the way he reacted after the kick.. He didn't even care if the boy is hurt or if he was alright.. It's a shameful action, and no matter what cover people are trying to put on it, it will clearly remain an inexcusable action that needs to be punished.
And to put holding the ball to waste a couple of seconds on par with kicking somebody in term of how bad it is, is just utterly ridiculous..
Maybe because he thought/knew he kicked the ballAre people trying to lie to themselves or to others here??
There is no way anybody can be convinced that he only kicked him because "he was just trying to get the ball". That's absurd. He was clearly kicking him in frustration.. Don't act stupid. Look at the way he reacted after the kick.. He didn't even care if the boy is hurt or if he was alright.. It's a shameful action, and no matter what cover people are trying to put on it, it will clearly remain an inexcusable action that needs to be punished.
And to put holding the ball to waste a couple of seconds on par with kicking somebody in term of how bad it is, is just utterly ridiculous..
I blame Bale for the diving Welsh kid personallyBecause he wasn't expecting the ballboy to feign injury and make imploring faces at the referee to maximise the repercussions, was he?
The boy was obviously playacting - you know when you have hurt someone or not. He believed that he touched the ball and not the boy and the side video bears him out. The fact that he calmly picked the ball up and tried to play on suggests to me that the red mist had not descended and he was just trying to get the ball out from beneath an obstructive toerag and nothing more.
Leave it out. What fan groups have sent death threats? Death threats may have been sent by the odd disgruntled fan (I've heard allegations but never seen evidence) but certainly not by fan groups.yeah, we get involved in multiple dodgy cases a season don't we?
I mean, it's not just Chelsea, every club has players who racially abuse rivals, every club accuses the ref of racism at least once a season and every club has a player who likes to boot innocent ball boys half to death.
Oh, and every club has fan groups who send out death threats the second any perceived injustice is done.
Now you really are talking utter bollocks. The media nonsense surrounding this might be, but your entire club is rotten to the core and no amount of finger pointing elsewhere can take away from that.
My tongue was in my cheek, I did leave a few clues inLeave it out. What fan groups have sent death threats? Death threats may have been sent by the odd disgruntled fan (I've heard allegations but never seen evidence) but certainly not by fan groups.
From the masked gang that turned up at Rio Ferdinand's house threatening him to sign a new contract, I'd say that I'm sure that United have similar rotten apples amongst your support who would be more than capable of such things.
As for racially abusing a rival, I distinctly recall Ian Wright alleging that Schmiechel called him a "nigger" - the only such allegation of racial abuse that Wright made in his whole career. If that happened in 2013, there would have been a serious FA investigation into it. Luckily for Schmiechel, it happened 20 years previous when there wasn't the same appetite to deal with such complaints.
I am more critical than anyone about the way that my football club is run and the fact that it veers from one PR disaster to another. I was also highly critical of the allegations against Clattenburg on the newbies as Castia will testify, as I remember discussing it with him at some length.
Take the fact that it is a Chelsea player out of the equation and it is still a very unedifying spectacle and one I suspect that is quite unique to this country.
I'm busy winding him up if you don't mind.You do talk bollocks with your 'Chelsea is rotten to the core', my club is holier than thou. Chelsea may have had a few incidents recently which most would agree are unsavory but if you think Leeds, United, Liverpool, City, and about half the teams in Europe haven't then you are deluded.
Did you start watching football this season?
Deleted since I didnt realise it was in jest.I'm busy winding him up if you don't mind.
Chelsea are pretty shit from top to bottom, but I'm not seriously suggesting this is their fault
Fanny.My tongue was in my cheek, I did leave a few clues in
I wanted to annoy you, but you don't seem to get white text. You should never tell people on a messageboard you get angry at what people write! It's like red to a bull
Because he wasn't expecting the ballboy to feign injury and make imploring faces at the referee to maximise the repercussions, was he?
The boy was obviously playacting - you know when you have hurt someone or not. He believed that he touched the ball and not the boy and the side video bears him out. The fact that he calmly picked the ball up and tried to play on suggests to me that the red mist had not descended and he was just trying to get the ball out from beneath an obstructive toerag and nothing more.
This is bullsh*t and you know it.. Since when kicking was a calm method to get the ball back from somebody, especially when his body is so close to it??Maybe because he thought/knew he kicked the ball
No chance. When the FA have someone in their sights they will get him. He'll get a 5 or 6 game ban - which is absurd. I still think that a red card was harsh.This is bullshit. He'll now miss the city game, unless the ban starts immediately and he contests and wins an appeal against an extension....
It was funny at first but four games is ridiculous, he caught the ball boy but there's no way he meant it. Stupid thing to do and now he's paying the price for it.If Hazard is found guilty it is thought he will face a four-match ban - with one further fixture added to the standard three-game suspension.