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They should just go back to awarding it like they did before without this bs ceremony and stop trying to be like FIFA BPOTYTweet
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Still don’t get why this was shown.
People here simply don't want to listen. Ballon Dor is decided before the season starts. Has been that way since the 50sUp to Aug 2021:
33 goals and 13 assist for Messi at Barcelona and with Argentina in Copa America
29 goals and 3 assists for Lewa with Bayern and Poland at the Euros 2020
He contributed more than Lewa until Aug 2021 and was clear favourite. Everyone know that's the period where Ballon D'Or is decided.
The everyone know part is hilarious. If that's official rule then fine but otherwise people voting should vote based on the official guidelinesUp to Aug 2021:
33 goals and 13 assist for Messi at Barcelona and with Argentina in Copa America
29 goals and 3 assists for Lewa with Bayern and Poland at the Euros 2020
He contributed more than Lewa until Aug 2021 and was clear favourite. Everyone know that's the period where Ballon D'Or is decided.
Wow, pretty bitter post. Maybe a goal record in bundesliga doesn't have the international outreach you thought it had?If at least Jorginho had won the Ballon d'Or instead of Lewandowski there might have been a few reasons to chose Jorginho over Lewa.
But Messi? What a fecking joke. That was just about the name Messi and nothing else.
With that the vote the Ballon d'Or has about as much integrity, meaning and value as the vote to award world cups by Fifa. They somehow voted for Russia and Quatar. The Ballon d'Or commitee voted for Messi, when he didn't even have the fifth best season of his carrer and just isn't as good as he used to be.
Meanwhile Lewandowski broke a record that no one thought could be broken, while missing several games. What a fecking joke.
This vote should serve as a reason why "wins a Ballon d'Or" clauses in contracts are pure bullshit. The award has become a popularity contest instead of an award for the best football player.
Was he the best player in either?Jorginho won the champions league and the Euro. If that doesn't give someone the ballon'd or, what is the standard anymore ?
In the finals of both, yesWas he the best player in either?
Should Mount have won the Ballon d’Or had England won the Euros?Jorginho won the champions league and the Euro. If that doesn't give someone the ballon'd or, what is the standard anymore ?
Wait so 3 games is meant to be enough to be get picked in the top 5? Where was he in the rest of the year? His PR juice is unrivalled let's admit it.Best player of both legs in the semi final of the CL and best player of the final I think for the 1st time in history. It's a bit more than a nice smile.
The standard is that he's not the best player for Chelsea nor is he for Italy. Varane didn't get it either in 2018 when he won both the CL and the world cup.Jorginho won the champions league and the Euro. If that doesn't give someone the ballon'd or, what is the standard anymore ?
Lewa easily.Who out of messi or lewa is more deserving of the award?
I don’t think it means he should be voted best player in the world. Does anyone actually think he’s the best in the world?In the finals of both, yes
Maybe not the best, but one of the best. in 2014 Germany won the World Cup and it went to Ronaldo... sometimes I find stuff like that weird.Was he the best player in either?
United won the treble but Rivaldo won the award, why? Because he genuinely was the best player in the world. Trophies help but sometimes you have to just acknowledge who the best player in the world is. It’s an individual award in a team sport.Maybe not the best, but one of the best. in 2014 Germany won the World Cup and it went to Ronaldo... sometimes I find stuff like that weird.
Just because no one wins these big tournaments without having one or two players who did well.
And you think the Copa America has?Wow, pretty bitter post. Maybe a goal record in bundesliga doesn't have the international outreach you thought it had?
Well, clearly it has as Messi just won the balon de oroAnd you think the Copa America has?
He was instrumental in Chelsea's streak after Tuchel joined. Actually, they didn't loose a game when he set foot on the pitch after his injury in january. He didn't play at all during 4 games in PL and Chelsea lost 3 of them a drew the 4th. So i guess he was somewhere after all.Wait so 3 games is meant to be enough to be get picked in the top 5? Where was he in the rest of the year? His PR juice is unrivalled let's admit it.
For one thing he is not even the top 5 players in the premier league.Jorginho won the champions league and the Euro. If that doesn't give someone the ballon'd or, what is the standard anymore ?
He had a really good season and is a consistent performer. Then again if lewa can't win it then don't think he had a chance at allI don’t think it means he should be voted best player in the world. Does anyone actually think he’s the best in the world?
ask Lewa.And you think the Copa America has?
Couldn’t be more wrong. And luckily a lot of other people disagree.He hasn't been the best player in the world since 2015.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There's 600 million people living in central/south america, get your head out of your arse, of course it does.And you think the Copa America has?
When you put it like that... makes sense. Although it's not like Jorginho had just a good season. It was very good. He just isn't the kind of player who does all the playmaking and beautiful goals. Maybe that's his problem with the awards then.United won the treble but Rivaldo won the award, why? Because he genuinely was the best player in the world. Trophies help but sometimes you have to just acknowledge who the best player in the world is. It’s an individual award in a team sport.
Messi won it because of what you mentioned - nobody particularly standing out. Lewa broke scoring records but that alone is not a level playing field for judging both since they are both not out and out strikers.That's actually a joke for Messi to win it this year. Should've been Lewandowski based on the past 2 years since nobody stood out this year.
Exactly.Up to Aug 2021:
33 goals and 13 assist for Messi at Barcelona and with Argentina in Copa America
29 goals and 3 assists for Lewa with Bayern and Poland at the Euros 2020
He contributed more than Lewa until Aug 2021 and was clear favourite. Everyone knows that's the period where Ballon D'Or is decided.
I would, if we were talking about a prize that meant anything. But after today it's clear Lewa's true reason to go to Paris was for the trip. I think it's fair that everyone should treat this joke awared for what it is, a bought PR show for the highest bidder or somesuch nonsense. It's clearly not got anything to do with the actual competitions in football that happen.ask Lewa.
doesnt make him the best player in the world though. He wasn’t the best player at Chelsea or in the league.He had a really good season and is a consistent performer. Then again if lewa can't win it then don't think he had a chance at all
Ballon d'or is a mix between individual and team performances, how many time do we need to repeat that. Meaning that his CL and euro victory gave him enough of a boost to end up 3rd but his individual performances were not enough to make him win (and rightfully so).The fact that players like Jorginho are brought up to this discussion shows you how clueless most people are about this award. He wasnt even close to being the MVP of his teams on any of the tournaments he won, yet he's supposed to be the MVP of the year? Make that make sense.
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So basically you agree with me, he didnt deserve to win. Thanks for the condescending tone though.Ballon d'or is a mix between individual and team performances, how many time do we need to repeat that. Meaning that his CL and euro victory gave him enough of a boost to end up 3rd but his individual performances were not enough to make him win (and rightfully so).