Barca trying to terminate the contracts of Umtiti and Pjanic

[Adisa]

If you have a player on a big contract who nobody wants to buy or even sign on a free transfer, there's a few options to get rid of them:

1, Treat them like shit (train with the kids etc) in the hope that they'll accept a lower salary elsewhere.

2, Offer to pay off a decent chunk of their remaining contract and release them on a free. This will save Barca money in the long run.

3, Send them on loan whilst paying a large % of their wages. This lightens the wage bill and puts them in the shop window.

1. Does not work for some players. Divides the dressing room and Barca don't have the luxury of time.
2. Paying people off costs money. The sheer size of these contracts means the pay outs will be huge.
3. How many clubs are willing to.pay significant portions of these players salaries? Finding koans for so many players will.be time consuming. They don't have that luxury.
They need to cut €230m in wages. I can't see how they do it.

 

[hellhunter]

1. Does not work for some players. Divides the dressing room and Barca don't have the luxury of time.
2. Paying people off costs money. The sheer size of these contracts means the pay outs will be huge.
3. How many clubs are willing to.pay significant portions of these players salaries? Finding koans for so many players will.be time consuming. They don't have that luxury.
They need to cut €230m in wages. I can't see how they do it.

To be fair, payouts may not count towards their wage bill, so might be their loophole to fulfil La Ligas demands

 

[Fortitude]

it can go hand in hand though, no? Messi being a greedy prick and Barca being a shambles of a club isn't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Do you think Messi, of all their players, shouldn't be paid the going rate for his services? He asked to go last season, the club said no; I'm not sure he wants to go now, but I don't doubt he would - they don't have to indulge him, but without him, they are a mess on the pitch and in bigger trouble off it, so what should happen here?

They have the most expensive player the game has known on their books, and have him for a long time, shouldn't that then be relayed by the money men that to accommodate this player, concessions or more prudent money management is the order of the day?

If you're paying Griezmann 800,000 euro a week and tying him to a 300,000,000 euro contract over 5 years, there's something seriously wrong at your club, that's before mentioning the host of mega earners whose totals take us over a billion euros during the full duration - that's the feck up here, and it's epic in both scale and incredulity.

You have what many consider the best player of literal all-time on your books, it's a given you are going to have to pay a premium of astronomical proportion for the privilege, just as Napoli did with Maradona and I don't know why the player is faulted for that.

 

[PoTMS]

Pjanic would be a fantastic signing for us. No brainer on a free. Apparently, Spurs are sniffing around.

 

[Hoof the ball]

https://en.as.com/en/2021/07/04/football/1625382402_834177.html

What is going on at Barcelona. They only bought Pjanic for €60m a year ago didn't they?

Umtiti was quite highly rated at one point and is still only 27.

Absolutely bizarre. Either of them capable of doing a job?

He was a Pjanic buy, I think.

Umtiti is problematic. He's always injured. A bit like Bailly in that respect.

 

[duffer]

1. Does not work for some players. Divides the dressing room and Barca don't have the luxury of time.
2. Paying people off costs money. The sheer size of these contracts means the pay outs will be huge.
3. How many clubs are willing to.pay significant portions of these players salaries? Finding koans for so many players will.be time consuming. They don't have that luxury.
They need to cut €230m in wages. I can't see how they do it.

If they're in the much trouble, why have they signed 4 new players?

They can't be in THAT bad a situation, if they were, 4 new players would be borderline criminally negligent.

 

[Champagne Football]

I want a Messi video game! Is it an RPG where the goal is to be the best tax fraudster?

Or maybe the goal of the RPG will be to set up charities in your own name and donate millions to the poor.

 

[Adisa]

If they're in the much trouble, why have they signed 4 new players?

They can't be in THAT bad a situation, if they were, 4 new players would be borderline criminally negligent.

Doesn't make sense to me as well.
They have to cut €230m in wages. That's a known fact.

 

[yumtum]

Offer them £25m for Fati who only has 12 months left on his contract.

 

[Robertd0803]

It would be beyond funny if Barcelona were brought down by what they view as deadwood refusing to move.

Also if they somehow manage to trim the squad only for Messi to not sign a new contract

 

[arthurka]

I honestly hope we wouldn't. And if we did I'd be pretty disgusted if we had to sell off players, ask them to take a paucity just to give to a guy like Messi

No I agree with that, but I think the biggest brand in the sport might have something to do with it. Messi is just huge they would be idiots to let him leave.

 

[JPRouve]

If they're in the much trouble, why have they signed 4 new players?

They can't be in THAT bad a situation, if they were, 4 new players would be borderline criminally negligent.

Barcelona are in a bad situation but I think people are mixing two unrelated issues. The reason they have to reduce their wage bill beyond the fact that it would make it easier to pay their debt is that La Liga has introduced a salary cap at 382m but Barcelona were above 600m in 20/21. Now the risk is that unless they are under 382m, they shouldn't be able to register Messi even if he was playing for free.

PS: I'm pretty sure that Messi was aware of that and screwed them because the players already registered were grandfathered.

 

[Isotope]

Really? They cant move forward without Messi? What a fecking shitshow Barca have become

Because then the new regime/president has to work harder to find a new "superstar" and appease the fans. But then, i don't know the attractiveness of become Barca's president. Are they getting rich from that position? prestige? else?

 

[Bastian]

Maybe they should try to get Messi to sponsor them, playing with "Messi" on the front of their shirts. Maybe get him to buy the naming rights to Camp Nou as well.

They definitely should have sold him to City for 100m when they had the chance last summer.

 

[Acheron]

I've read Umtiti and Pjanic aren't accepting to terminate their contracts so I don't know what Barcelona us going to do as no one is going to offer a similar contract to what they have with Barcelona.

 

[SirReginald]

I've read Umtiti and Pjanic aren't accepting to terminate their contracts so I don't know what Barcelona us going to do as no one is going to offer a similar contract to what they have with Barcelona.

Good. Having a second rate manager and highly paid squad players is going to make them disappear for a few years.

 

[Fortitude]

If they're in the much trouble, why have they signed 4 new players?

They can't be in THAT bad a situation, if they were, 4 new players would be borderline criminally negligent.

Funniest word: borderline.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I've read Umtiti and Pjanic aren't accepting to terminate their contracts so I don't know what Barcelona us going to do as no one is going to offer a similar contract to what they have with Barcelona.

I think they are also giving Dembele a new contract

 

[Sinbad the sailor]

Seen a lot of confusion on this topic so trying to say what I know for a fact.
Well first Barcelona need to decrease their wage bill asap. It's not about signing Messi to a new contract, their wage bill is 110% of their income and la liga has imposed extremely tight rules regarding wages.
Secondly Messi himself is taking nearly a 50% wage reduction.
And lastly although pjanic is definitely a good player umtiti had this coming. He went to the world cup against the club's wishes and refused surgery afterwards. He has been in horrible physical condition for the last 3 years picking up 230k per week. Pjanic is going to leave without a fuss but umtiti is getting kicked out.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

What a shit show that club is.

 

[Rojow]

Pjanic supossedly has a contract of 20 million euros. WTF!

Umtiti has one of 12 million.

What the hell was Bartomeu doing? He was really a Real Madrid fan in charge of Barcelona. It makes no sense these numbers.

 

[red4ever 79]

Umtiti has played what around 13 league games for the past 3 years. His knees are shot, and Pjanic was dire last season. With the emergence of Pedri I can see where they are coming from. If only other clubs would try to offload players who cant contribute instead of consistently giving them extensions because they are good in the dressing room. Oh wait thats us.

 

[adexkola]

If Im playing devils advocate there are players no longer needed by the club but refuse to leave. Barca just want to sell them and move on but they refuse to go. Yeah they signed contracts so Barca needs to adhere to the contract but if the club says 'look your a great guy and a great player but we cant see a future for you here so we are looking to sell you' and the player says 'Nope. I refuse. Im staying put.' What do you do?

Nothing you can do.

Which is why you don't sign stupid contracts in the first place.

 

[Banat]

They are ruthless, we should follow this model to remove Jones and the likes from our squad.

 

[Mb194dc]

1. Does not work for some players. Divides the dressing room and Barca don't have the luxury of time.
2. Paying people off costs money. The sheer size of these contracts means the pay outs will be huge.
3. How many clubs are willing to.pay significant portions of these players salaries? Finding koans for so many players will.be time consuming. They don't have that luxury.
They need to cut €230m in wages. I can't see how they do it.

It's €324m difference they need to cut, between the cap last season and this one I think.

If Laporta doesn't have some magic trick they'll have to sell key players from the squad. Pedri, Griezmann, Ter Stegen etc. No one is taking Umtitu or probably even Pjanic on their current wages.

 

[The Cat]

Can we have the GK please?

 

[Berbaclass]

This could get ugly

Barca are like gambling addicts trying to sell their microwave for a 10/1 shot at Kempton.

 

[JPRouve]

This could get ugly

Barca are like gambling addicts trying to sell their microwave for a 10/1 shot at Kempton.

Half of the caf just looked at the empty table where a microwave used to seat.

 

[Berbaclass]

Half of the caf just looked at the empty table where a microwave used to seat.

The footballing equivalent of Charlie Sheen. #Winning

 

[Shane88]

This could get ugly

Barca are like gambling addicts trying to sell their microwave for a 10/1 shot at Kempton.

€20 on Barca to be relegated within 5 years.

Nailed on.

 

[Iron Stove]

Hope they go full Bogarde

 

[Fortitude]

This could get ugly

Barca are like gambling addicts trying to sell their microwave for a 10/1 shot at Kempton.

They've certainly been run that way.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Pjanic on a free would be a great signing for us.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

All Messi needs to do after he's done with his NT duties is to announce that he is not signing a new contract with Barca and will consider his options for the upcoming season, and put Barca out of their misery

 

[Redfrog]

It's €324m difference they need to cut, between the cap last season and this one I think.

If Laporta doesn't have some magic trick they'll have to sell key players from the squad. Pedri, Griezmann, Ter Stegen etc. No one is taking Umtitu or probably even Pjanic on their current wages.

Problem is how can they sell them ? Most of them are on big contracts, they won’t want a pay cut. And those who aren’t on a big contract are probably not the one you would sell for the future of the club.
They are fecked.

 

[Lay]

La Liga has a salary cap!? Interesting

 

[Dumbstar]

Absolutely no sympathy for them or Real Madrid. Not such Billy Big Bollocks now. Come on Barca, take Mane or Salah off our hands, they're just itching to play next to salary hog Messi.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Surprising how both players were highly rated specially Umtiti not too long ago and now they are deadwood.

I would certainly look at Pjanic if it's for free but wouldn't touch Umtiti with a stick.

 

[Acrobat7]

I don’t blame Barca’s players at all. Not „even“ Messi.
This is all on the club offering the players those horrendously overpriced contracts.

I called the Pjanic/Arthur swap last year „kicking the can down the road“ since it was purely a book balancing exercise. Guess what, the road seems to have ended earlier than they expected.

Btw, Real‘s financial state is not in the least comparable. They are way better of.

 

[duffer]

Can we have the GK please?

You already have 4!