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It's funny how a league with the first 2 state bankrolled clubs are now moaning about others following the same path.
True but, erm, city innit?The sense of entitlement of these La Liga cnuts is ridiculous.
Yeah, too late to stop City: they have a lot of assets now.City got like 100m from sales this window, no chance they broke the FFP. They are probably tapping Messi or some other superstar from Spain if La Liga started moaning.
First thought when I saw the thread.City trying to get Messi?
The income of every club in the Premier League has increased exponentially over the past few years due to the new TV deal. City also banked more in Champions League TV and prize money than every other club in Europe when we reached the semi-finals of the CL 2 seasons ago. We also now have a bigger stadium with more corporate facilities and increased revenue from match day ticket sales and corporate hospitality. Much of the reason we failed FFP was as a result of the rolling losses from the previous 3 seasons when all these revenue streams were much lower. It's not just about "dodgy" sponsorship deals you know - incidentally, deals that have actually been ratified by UEFA as being fair market value. I'll also point out that while our net spend was well over £100 million this summer, we got far more players off the books than we brought in so the net spend figure doesn't tell anything like the full story because when you factor in the amortised costs our transfer activity was well within acceptable boundaries for FFP purposes so unless you know more than UEFA and think it's acceptable to ride roughshod over international accounting standards, I suggest you keep any accusations of corruption away from a public forum.These are UEFA's rules. Petty or not, La Liga shouldn't have to ask UEFA to enforce them, as they should be doing so automatically. Either that or get rid of the rule.
City were caught out by FFP two years ago and both years since have spent significantly more...so either they have, for no apparent reason, massively increased their income in a very short space of time, or they are deliberately breaking the rules in the knowledge UEFA are allowing them too...This is called corruption and very much should be made an issue of, regardless of whether La Liga are only doing it out of self interest.
Other teams are having to balance books despite having every opportunity to use invested money. You can't have one or two outside of that just doing what they want. Otherwise you might as well start allowing certain teams to field 13 players or make their goal smaller than the opposition's
This. On both points.Former school-yard bully upset because new, bigger bully is being mean. Waaaa.
Unless UEFA is going to grow a pair and introduce a wage cap, this whole thing is pointless. UEFA likes money, so it's never going to say no to anyone.
City got like 100m from sales this window, no chance they broke the FFP. They are probably tapping Messi or some other superstar from Spain if La Liga started moaning.
Wouldn't impact anything since Leo would be coming on a free, after that it's about balancing your books but wouldn't be related to Tebas' gripe. On the flip side, would love to see an actual independent investigation of how RM conduct business but don't hold your breathThe lask of self-awareness from Tebas is astonishing mate. A Real Madrid fan complaining about state aid is laughably ironic, and even more so when RM have received money from none other than Abu Dhabi to redevelop their stadium
The assumption amongst some City fans is that Barca are getting a little about Messi's contract situation and perhaps are worried that City might come in for him?
Calm down.The income of every club in the Premier League has increased exponentially over the past few years due to the new TV deal. City also banked more in Champions League TV and prize money than every other club in Europe when we reached the semi-finals of the CL 2 seasons ago. We also now have a bigger stadium with more corporate facilities and increased revenue from match day ticket sales and corporate hospitality. Much of the reason we failed FFP was as a result of the rolling losses from the previous 3 seasons when all these revenue streams were much lower. It's not just about "dodgy" sponsorship deals you know - incidentally, deals that have actually been ratified by UEFA as being fair market value. Unless you know more than UEFA and think it's acceptable to ride roughshod over international accounting standards, I suggest you keep any accusations of corruption away from a public forum.
According to transfermrkt they bought for €250m and sold €100m.The bought over £200m...and weren't far off that last year either. It's pretty much impossible they haven't been breaking the FFP requirements, which is probably why La Liga have decided to make a public issue of it.
They aren't happy at people other than them being given an unfair advantage. Problem is with the PL TV money, coupled with UEFA being about as integral as FIFA, I'm not really sure what they expect to achieve.
At worst City get another fine, and another sanction, which they wont care about.
You just lost Neymar because a club surpassed the récord in 120m€ and are still complaining about Madrid.Wouldn't impact anything since Leo would be coming on a free, after that it's about balancing your books but wouldn't be related to Tebas' gripe. On the flip side, would love to see an actual independent investigation of how RM conduct business but don't hold your breath
And they will blame on us saying it's all because of ragsLooks like the gentlemen at Blue Moon are under the impression this is an attempt to prevent them from signing Messi next summer.
No it hundred percent wouldn't. This bloke has a problem with Qatari money but yet supports Man City in the Premier League. Go figure.You just lost Neymar because a club surpassed the récord in 120m€ and are still complaining about Madrid.
Tebas also embarrased himself with his complaints about Neymar a month ago despite being Madridista.
Would your opinion be the same without Pep at City?
That's what she said!I know, I'm too soft
Cheating is just that, whether it is Rosell/Barto, Qatar, UAE or the perennial ones in the Spanish capitalYou just lost Neymar because a club surpassed the récord in 120m€ and are still complaining about Madrid.
Tebas also embarrased himself with his complaints about Neymar a month ago despite being Madridista.
Would your opinion be the same without Pep at City?
This is the only measured and fair solution.Yeah dock them 200 points and send them down to the conference please.
Pep was also ambassador for Qatar's world cup bid. Problem with Qatar but worship the guy who endorses them.No it hundred percent wouldn't. This bloke has a problem with Qatari money but yet supports Man City in the Premier League. Go figure.
“I am very pleased to be representing Qatar’s 2022 World Cup Bid,” Guardiola said upon his appointment. “I believe this is a truly unique bid, and a wonderful opportunity to spread the magic and the benefits of the world’s favourite game across the globe.”
“Having played in Qatar myself between 2003 and 2005, and having grown to love the country and greatly appreciate Qatar’s football development and infrastructure investment, I believe the time is ripe for the first World Cup to be held in the Middle East. My experience in Qatar, as well as the outstanding organisation and football passion we witnessed in the UAE during the Clubs World Cup, makes me confident that Qatar and the Middle East can host a spectacular, passionate and unforgettable World Cup that embraces all the FIFA ideals.”
Yeah it sounds like they did, that one must have passed me by!didnt barca (or la liga) already submit a similar complaint against PSG?
Anybody with a modicum of commonsense can see why La Liga are doing this, and it's all because PSG dared to buy Neymar from Barcelona and they're now acting like a bunch of slapped arses and lobbing accusations around without any supporting evidence. Do you honestly believe that this complaint would've gone in if PSG hadn't bought Neymar? I wouldn't mind but what PSG do is nothing to do with City anyway and it's not like Qatar and Abu Dhabi are best of friends at the moment. Just because both clubs are owned by people from a similar part of the world doesn't mean they're 2 sides of the same coin. Funny how no-one ever complains about Mike Ashley and Peter Coates sponsoring their own clubs - maybe for some, the fact they don't have brown skin and aren't Muslim has something to do with it.Calm down.
The numbers just don't add up I'm afraid. Do you think La Liga would come out and make a public statement like this if they didn't know there was something a bit dodgy going on?
They are unhappy at no longer being the main beneficiary and that's all it comes down to.
Of course UEFA have ratified sponsorship deals, because it means they make more money, it means they keep clubs like United happy. They are not really interested in a fair playing field which is where the problems start, because clubs will be happy to rat out UEFA or each other if they don't feel like they are getting the biggest piece of the pie.
It would make much more sense to just get rid of FFP because if not it is going to cause them endless trouble unless they enforce it on every team. If they investigate City, next time Real or BArcelona spend big, there'll be claims going the other way...suddenly everyone will be getting scrutinised and I doubt many will be shown in a good light.
Exactly, we had to pay back for las tablas and were a market out for signing a kid from Venezuela,you even worse,so I don't see why with City is "Tebas the Madrid fan".Cheating is just that, whether it is Rosell/Barto, Qatar, UAE or the perennial ones in the Spanish capital
While they adore Pep he steals from la Masía.Luckily for him Messi can't stand Pep and won't leaveNo it hundred percent wouldn't. This bloke has a problem with Qatari money but yet supports Man City in the Premier League. Go figure.
Can you not think of something that PSG and City have in common?Don't know why they've randomly picked City and not PSG... but yeah sounds like they're just having a strop about not having it their own way any more!
There are also things like their non playing staff being paid through a different company to keep the figures off City's books. I bet there are many other tricks that PSG and City are employing that could be looked at too.The bought over £200m...and weren't far off that last year either. It's pretty much impossible they haven't been breaking the FFP requirements, which is probably why La Liga have decided to make a public issue of it.
They aren't happy at people other than them being given an unfair advantage. Problem is with the PL TV money, coupled with UEFA being about as integral as FIFA, I'm not really sure what they expect to achieve.
At worst City get another fine, and another sanction, which they wont care about.