How is this thread not lock yet? Well I guess he was so bad today that mods might think he is still on Brighton.
Ben White | Arsenal
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So Arteta essentially needs to bid another £50million for Ben Mee.
Can't imagine many would disagree.
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It's a tough ask for him.
Massive price tag which people will obsess on as they did with Maguire, coming into an unsettled, unconfident side with no leaders on the pitch.
He is actually the man they'll be looking to step into leading the defence and he's got to do this in a side expected to push towards Europe when all his previous experience was playing second fiddle in a relegation candidate on the right of a three.
All that said, he has to do better in some of those individual moments. He seems to have a weakness against nimble players or the physical types. Well, that's a lot of players. Lindelof-esque at times.
Massive price tag which people will obsess on as they did with Maguire, coming into an unsettled, unconfident side with no leaders on the pitch.
He is actually the man they'll be looking to step into leading the defence and he's got to do this in a side expected to push towards Europe when all his previous experience was playing second fiddle in a relegation candidate on the right of a three.
All that said, he has to do better in some of those individual moments. He seems to have a weakness against nimble players or the physical types. Well, that's a lot of players. Lindelof-esque at times.
He's certainly Been Shite.
It seems so obvious but Dunk is still such an underrated player. He is what Arsenal need more
Dunk is highly enough rated from what I can see. Chelsea were heavily linked with him last summer, and at one point I thought it was going to happen. White just never looked particularly good any time I watched him last season, and he's clearly inferior to Lindelof imo. I'm still shocked that Arsenal shelled out 50m quid for him.
Yeah. The price tag and the expectation are huge and he looks horribly exposed in a back two in a weak, rudderless team.
Damn, this guy is 24 in two months. Just getting into his theoretical prime, but he's ways off the pace.
24 is still young, but he'll need another couple of years to truly settle and see how he improves/matures. Not sure about his character either, but today was a bad day for him. Don't have any sympathy for him however because he's a big transfer for any CB to any club. Can't hide, but Pepe has managed to do that exceptionally well.
24 is still young, but he'll need another couple of years to truly settle and see how he improves/matures. Not sure about his character either, but today was a bad day for him. Don't have any sympathy for him however because he's a big transfer for any CB to any club. Can't hide, but Pepe has managed to do that exceptionally well.
I remember when Shaun Wright Phillips sat deadface serious and said "Out of Varane and White, I'd sign White".
Oh yeah, yesterday
Toney toyed with him
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He’s a decent young CB but 50m is mental.
He’s nowhere near ready to lead Arsenal. They’d of been better keeping Luiz.
He’s nowhere near ready to lead Arsenal. They’d of been better keeping Luiz.
His reputation seemed to soar dramatically when he got put into the England squad of 26 after the season was over. People started to make up a lot of stuff then. I agree that I didn't see anything of note to get excited about. I'd have rated the likes of Konsa or Gosling better based on last season.
I actually do. I wonder what's going on in his head at this minute
It really was
He'll be much better for them this season than he looked today. He's a decent young prospect. Not someone any club higher up the table than Arsenal should have been looking at but he'll probably end up better than most of their sorry stable of CBs.
Price-wise, the problem is that they paid extra for a player who's promising in two different positions. But he's only going to be able to play in one at a time.
The other problem is that they don't need a promising, versatile, ball-playing youngster like White. They need a proven serious CB, so they should have gone for Dunk, as others have said above.
Price-wise, the problem is that they paid extra for a player who's promising in two different positions. But he's only going to be able to play in one at a time.
The other problem is that they don't need a promising, versatile, ball-playing youngster like White. They need a proven serious CB, so they should have gone for Dunk, as others have said above.
Also that Potter knew he had to be in a 3
It doesn't get any easier next game as he'll be playing against Lukaku. A few more games of similar performance and he'll completely lose all belief and confidence and then it is a long way back.
The Sean Longstaff of center backs! Can't believe Arsenal actually bought into the hype. Did Tony Adams recommend him?
Was totally dominated by Toney, I can only imagine how nasty Lukaku going to do him next week.
It's like watching Lindelof play. No point in being fancy on the ball if you're weak as piss.
People comparing him to Lindelof are doing a massive disservice to Lindelof TBH
Good comparison, as part of 3at the back okay, but in flat 4 defence, you really need to be able to head the ball and proactively win tackles. EPL is no fun
Yet again this is the sort of nonsense I hear people saying about Lindelof -babysit him with proper defenders and he might be good.
He’s just average. Not much better than what they have. And what they have isn’t great. Must be at least a dozen better centre-backs in the league. Pointless signing for a club with CL ambitions. £50m? Christ.
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Lindelof isn’t dominant in the air but I don’t think you’ll ever see him losing as high a % of challenges on the ground as White did tonight.
Loaned out Saliba to bring in this clown for £50m?
Too early to judge but he's the sort of signing a club that finished third or fourth take a punt on at around 15/20M to make up the numbers. Not your main 50M signing when the whole world can see you can't score to save your life.
Sounds about right. For me it's 50m for Phil Jones sort of capabilities (seen him a lot at Brighton), which is quite wild.
Feel for the lad honestly, he should have stayed at Brighton.
Lindelof doesn't challenge that much on the ground though as he prefers to shepherds attacking players 10-15 yards into his own half waiting for AWB, Maguire and McFred to all drop.
I didn't watch the Arsenal game but if Lindelof had to be more involved and wasn't so well protected, I don't think his defending would translate as 'well'. For all the good defensive work he did in the Euros, it was a back 5 with the whole Sweden team ceding possession.
Seems a similar level to Lindelof for a similar price (inflation-adjusted). I’d be happy to have him as an Arsenal fan but yeah he’s an incredibly underwhelming marquee signing.
They spent £27m on Saliba btw. He hasn’t played a game for them.
As someone else posted, he won 64 and lost 37 which is higher than Ben white. He is no Vidic but he actually doesn't lose that many headers as people think he does. He isnt a attacking CB but that's not always a bad thing.
I said this the day they signed him, I said the day he first got called up to the England squad and I will say it today. I think he is a below average Premier League centre half and will be the worst signing of the season.
I don't take any joy in saying it about a young player but I watch a decent amount of Brighton and think he is not very good at all.
I don't take any joy in saying it about a young player but I watch a decent amount of Brighton and think he is not very good at all.