I’d doubt it. Both untried in the league. Neither are world class. Soumare is very inconsistent, could be a good signing or could be meh!Soumare and Fernandes and we can talk about competing for the EL and top 4, seriously.
I’d doubt it. Both untried in the league. Neither are world class. Soumare is very inconsistent, could be a good signing or could be meh!Soumare and Fernandes and we can talk about competing for the EL and top 4, seriously.
I would argue Soumare is exactly what we need. And your concern over who would fill than gap in between (if there was a gap at all, which I'm not so sure there would be) , we've a fantastic player called Paul Pogba. A MF of Soumare and Pogba behind Bruno would be pretty good IMO.
Personally, I don’t think Pogba is good enough in the defensive phase to be this player. I think he should be the main creator, instead of buying a 10 to be the main creator. We then need the ‘other’ player I am speaking of to help him a bit with the attacking/creating, and also help the DM behind them with the defensive part. Pogba being this player will likely not help the DM enough I don’t think.I think Pogba can be the player you are talking about. He makes good runs in to the box but he's mostly focused on finding those great passes to the forwards and the AM.
I agree a little bit but Pogba has all the necessary tools and is more than capable of filling this role. Whether he'd want to is another matter. Personally I would rather sort out our DM and AM positions and let Pogba go but that is for another thread.Personally, I don’t think Pogba is good enough in the defensive phase to be this player.
Doesn’t mean we can’t sign him now. Would still make sense.Soumare has already said he wants to stay until the summer. THis isn't happening now.
It was reported by local Lille media afew days ago that Soumare wants to see out the season at the club. But the question is, do Lille want to cash in now and use the money on the replacements Campos will have inevitably lined up?Soumare has already said he wants to stay until the summer. THis isn't happening now.
They could possibly force him out, but if he wants to stay there isn't much they can do.It was reported by local Lille media afew days ago that Soumare wants to see out the season at the club. But the question is, do Lille want to cash in now and use the money on the replacements Campos will have inevitably lined up?
Would you stay at a job if they said to you we'd prefer you'd leave?They could possibly force him out, but if he wants to stay there isn't much they can do.
If a deal isn't imminent it's fairly standard procedure to say you want to stay when asked. Could go either way.Soumare has already said he wants to stay until the summer. THis isn't happening now.
I’d let Pogba to it he insists he wants to, but I can’t share the willingness/desire to do so that many on this forum seem to have. I can almost guarantee that we won’t buy a midfielder as good as him if he left. We do need quality in midfield, but in my opinion, it’s quite obvious that Paul Pogba isn’t where the current shortage in quality comes from.I agree a little bit but Pogba has all the necessary tools and is more than capable of filling this role. Whether he'd want to is another matter. Personally I would rather sort out our DM and AM positions and let Pogba go but that is for another thread.
Especially if you walked straight into a new job paying you 400% more..?Would you stay at a job if they said to you we'd prefer you'd leave?
An even better point.Especially if you walked straight into a new job paying you 400% more..?
Would you stay at a job if they said to you we'd prefer you'd leave?
We don't know his reasons for staying, could be personnel. If a concrete bid came in and he had the chance to move i'm sure he would reconsider - only reporting what's been made public.Especially if you walked straight into a new job paying you 400% more..?
I'm surprised you can get signal for YouTube down in your drainI think this lad is going to the very top and will be an absolute star for whoever can get him. I'd be delighted if we can get him
I'm surprised you can get signal for YouTube down in your drain
Fixed.Soumare has already said he doesn't want to stay until the summer. THis is happening now.
The only one I would disagree on is Cavani. Maybe he'll make me eat my words, but he's really looking like he's at the end of his career.I think both Soumare and Bruno will come with the intention to prove their worth and capabilities. The urgency, high tempo, creativity that we've lacked in midfield will be brought by these signings. I think these guys fit the counterattacking profile as well. Also, if we do get Poch in the summer, I think he could get the best out of these players.
January Transfers
Bruno - 55m (No. 10/8)
Soumare - 45m (No. 8/6)
Summer Transfers
Cavani - Free
Kalvin Phillips - 30m or Partey - 40m
Sancho - 85m or Vinicius Jr (part of Pogba deal) or O Dembele - 70m
I think these would bolster our team tremendously. With Matic & Pogba most likely out in the summer and with Herrera and Fellaini not replaced, bringing in 3 central midfielders is a requirement.
Maybe Lille want to keep him for that game. The same sort of thing Sporting wanting to keep Bruno Fernandes for the Benfica game tomorrow night.Why would he want to stay until the 26th for the PSG game anyway?
Theres about 18 points that separate them in the table. They'll probably lose anyway even with him in the side.Maybe Lille want to keep him for that game. The same sort of thing Sporting wanting to keep Bruno Fernandes for the Benfica game tomorrow night.
Looks unstoppable on his day, but very raw currently. Loves to run with the ball, not a great passer by any means. Big physical player, gets around the pitch pretty well. He could honestly be very good or a massive flop. I’m not getting the hype that he’s going to transform us into serious top 4 contenders, possibly in time, but it’s a big ask.I’ve never seen this lad play as don’t really watch French football?
What sort of midfielder is he?
Why does it seem likely or unlikely?This one looks unlikely then, it seems. A shame because honestly, I think two new midfield addtions (and seemingly good ones) could make our season.
He is a player you would rather on your side than against you. Tough tackler, Ball winner, and covers a lot of ground.I’ve never seen this lad play as don’t really watch French football?
What sort of midfielder is he?
Looks unstoppable on his day, but very raw currently. Loves to run with the ball, not a great passer by any means. Big physical player, gets around the pitch pretty well. He could honestly be very good or a massive flop. I’m not getting the hype that he’s going to transform us into serious top 4 contenders, possibly in time, but it’s a big ask.
Cheers.He is a player you would rather on your side than against you. Tough tackler, Ball winner, and covers a lot of ground.
Still a bit to learn, but he is only 20 yet.
Why does it seem likely or unlikely?
What is it with clubs wanting to hold onto their players until after big games. We should also wait until after Liverpool before entertaining offers for Lingard.United and Chelsea have held talks over the player but no decision is expected to be made before Lille play Paris-Saint-Germain on January 26.
Honestly where is that coming from? I've read it multiple times now in this thread and I am wondering who has actually seen him.He is a player you would rather on your side than against you. Tough tackler, Ball winner, and covers a lot of ground.
Still a bit to learn, but he is only 20 yet.
One that is currently better in his position than anything we have. It would allow us to bed in Garner or Levitt as well.I’ve never seen this lad play as don’t really watch French football?
What sort of midfielder is he?
Good shout for Camavinga, too. But I don't think we are in for him, which we are for Soumare.Honestly where is that coming from? I've read it multiple times now in this thread and I am wondering who has actually seen him.
Soumare has 20 successful tackles and 16 interceptions in 18 games. For comparison an actual ball winner like Camavinga, who is 3 years younger, has 87 successful tackles and 30 interception in 19 games.
De valuation coming upWhat is it with clubs wanting to hold onto their players until after big games. We should also wait until after Liverpool before entertaining offers for Lingard.
Maybe that just suggests Lille have the ball a lot more, and Rennes are more defensive? Stats can be misleading.Honestly where is that coming from? I've read it multiple times now in this thread and I am wondering who has actually seen him.
Soumare has 20 successful tackles and 16 interceptions in 18 games. For comparison an actual ball winner like Camavinga, who is 3 years younger, has 87 successful tackles and 30 interception in 19 games.
Except he isn't. He might be talented, but this idea that he's better than McTominay and Fred currently is a stretch at best. And I don't rate Fred all that much.One that is currently better in his position than anything we have. It would allow us to bed in Garner or Levitt as well.
His midfield partner Benjamin André has 58 successful tackles and 40 interceptions in 19 games. His midfield partner is the ball winner, Soumare is not.Maybe that just suggests Lille have the ball a lot more, and Rennes are more defensive? Stats can be misleading.