It's not about depending on pace it's about having a quality in your team that is important in modern football against many teams that are going to push up against you.Pace isn't everything in football. What you need is good movement. Unless you want us to play the same way we have been in the past and depend on individual brilliance. Then sure, pace is great. But tell me....do City depend on pace to score goals? Do Liverpool? Do any of the great teams depend on pace or is it great off the ball movement and smart football?
How can you say no way when you haven't even seen it happen for more than a game? And again, do you want individual goals or team play? This "Bruno can't dribble" crap is just that. Crap.He was a bit better, but nowhere near enough to be our main winger next season. No way. Many mistakes again today against a very average team. Plus he cant dribble to save his life. No not on the wing please.
Those players movement is way more important than their pace. Pace is great for counter attacking football. If we want to be a force again then we have to stop with this counter attacking style and look for smart playersIt's not about depending on pace it's about having a quality in your team that is important in modern football against many teams that are going to push up against you.
Foden has plenty of pace. Mahrez is also decently quick, Pep has relied on Sterling a lot in the past. Mane has tons of pace. It is important to have that balance of qualities.
All I'm saying is that if you look at the composition of most successful forward lines they do contain a blend of qualities, especially in the PL so I would reason that those managers do find pace to be important. It's a bit binary to think that having someone with pace equals counterattack. Ideally we want people with athleticism, ability and movement. To me Bruno, Sancho and an old lad up front looks wrong and I don't think ETH will go for that, if anything those two might share a position off the left. I'd expect a right sided player to come in and if we can add a younger striker to share the burden with Ronaldo that would help.Those players movement is way more important than their pace. Pace is great for counter attacking football. If we want to be a force again then we have to stop with this counter attacking style and look for smart players
Ajax fans on YouTube I watched mentioned that ETH wingers usually play like a no 10 in ETH system. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see Bruno is used on the wing in ETH system while VDB takes the actual no 10 spot.I've said it on this thread and on several others as well. Bruno should be on the wing. He has been brutal lately and he is finally having a good game today and guess what position he's playing? On the wing. The very same position most of the "experts" on TheCaf said he couldn't play
I don't think we will play with a #10. No top team in Europe plays a 4-2-3-1. They all play 4-3-3 (for the most part)...Ajax fans on YouTube I watched mentioned that ETH wingers usually play like a no 10 in ETH system. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see Bruno is used on the wing in ETH system while VDB takes the actual no 10 spot.
Whatever you want to call it mate. I initially thought you would understand when I said no 10 in ETH system.I don't think we will play with a #10. No top team in Europe plays a 4-2-3-1. They all play 4-3-3 (for the most part)...
Its not and it doesn't. The end!I'm convinced this is the way to go, and Ronaldo leaving sorts out the Bruno head ache.
Quite the conversationalist you ey ..Its not and it doesn't. The end!
Could be an option. Not one I love mind you, but who knows how ETH will play it. Seems unlikely our budget will stretch to a top quality midfielder AND a top quality striker, especially considering how tight the market for #9's is at the moment.I'm convinced this is the way to go, and Ronaldo leaving sorts out the Bruno head ache.
Passing, Shooting and Running are very important skills for a False 9 though, so I'd disagree with that point personally. It would also allow Brunos natural high risk gameplay to be utilised where it doesn't risk harming us, as opposed to deeper, closer to our goal.It's just a shit idea and wont work.
Bruno hates being hit from behind. He rolls on the floor at every slight tap. He's not a strong player and and can't hold up the ball.
You then take away his best abilities which are passing, shooting and running.
If you want a false 9 Amad would do a better job.
I believe his best form usually came paired with Martial, who's not really a conventional CF. He'd usually drift wide, and Bruno would end up occupying space in the middleCertainly keeps him further away from the "Pogba risk zone", but he's much better feeding someone else and feasting on the left overs.
You need to be able to actually stand up to do that, and Bruno falls over with any slight pressure. It just won't work.Passing, Shooting and Running are very important skills for a False 9 though, so I'd disagree with that point personally. It would also allow Brunos natural high risk gameplay to be utilised where it doesn't risk harming us, as opposed to deeper, closer to our goal.
Not my favourite option of Ronaldo replacements just to be clear, but I don't think it's entirely without merit.
We've tried him as a ST not a false 9. There's no way our approach play or movement, was anything like a team who plays a false 9. The whole set up asks the wing forwards to play as strikers at times, and our play was never anywhere close to being mature enough for that set upYou need to be able to actually stand up to do that, and Bruno falls over with any slight pressure. It just won't work.
We've tried him as a false 9 in the past and he's dreadful at it.
Sure, he's not ready-made perfection. But I don't think he was really tried as a flase 9 in a functioning system, and I don't rate any of the coaches who were around at that time highly enough to judge his ability based on that tiny sample.You need to be able to actually stand up to do that, and Bruno falls over with any slight pressure. It just won't work.
We've tried him as a false 9 in the past and he's dreadful at it.
Bruno doesnt have the skill set to play false 9 either he plays as second striker or he goes on the Bench .I'm convinced this is the way to go, and Ronaldo leaving sorts out the Bruno head ache.
In complete agreement. With Eriksen signed I think we’ll constantly play Fernandes in multiple positions where he’ll struggle to hold down a spot.This thread, the false 9 and inverted winger shouts for Bruno Fernandes in other threads make me feel like puking.
Reeks of understanding that he is a midfielder who is not very good in midfield, but finding it difficult to acknowledge that a midfielder who is not very good in midfield, and can't play well in the team's midfield should not be in the team to begin with, so trying to find other positions to fit him into.
If hopefully, a better and proper midfielder comes in, he should go to the bench. If a better midfielder doesn't come in, accept his flaws and let him play in midfield.
No need to feel so entitled to indulge a footballer because of the reputation he's got, especially when he's got that reputation mostly by being privileged to stand behind almost 40 penalties in three years.
The ball does not stick with Bruno. He does not bold the ball and bring other into play. He is the exact opposite of a false 9Assuming we don't sign anyone:
Casemiro
Eriksen - Fred/McT
Sancho - Bruno - Rash
Bruno will naturally drop deeper which would give the two midfielders behind him freedom to play B2B roles and constantly make runs. I think this might also be the only formation where Beek could potentially resemble a footballer. Worth a try imo.
You're describing a target man. False 9 is the opposite. A false 9's role is to drop deeper from a high starting position to collect the ball and in the process draw opposition defenders out of position.The ball does not stick with Bruno. He does not bold the ball and bring other into play. He is the exact opposite of a false 9
Yes. This won't work. We need to bring someone else in. Ronaldo's heart is not in it.The ball does not stick with Bruno. He does not bold the ball and bring other into play. He is the exact opposite of a false 9
This.The ball does not stick with Bruno. He does not bold the ball and bring other into play. He is the exact opposite of a false 9
Yes and by collecting the ball you need to be able to use it and not give it awayYou're describing a target man. False 9 is the opposite. A false 9's role is to drop deeper from a high starting position to collect the ball and in the process draw opposition defenders out of position.
I think if you have two 8s who do dominate with ball, then a risk taker is what you want from the false 9. I want Bruno as high up the pitch as possible, where his risk taking can directly lead to goals and assists, and so he isn't losing the ball deeper where it can lead to us losing control or facing a counter attack. It's not just his passing, but also his runs, he is quite good at making runs in behind despite his lack of pace. He has the energy and intelligence to get into dangerous positions, and in and around the box he's always a goal threat.The ball does not stick with Bruno. He does not bold the ball and bring other into play. He is the exact opposite of a false 9
I don't think Bruno can play there due to the fact that we don't have fast goal-scoring forwards on the flanks who can constantly run behind the defense. Rashford can do it at his best, but Sancho is not even a wing forward in a strict sense. Bruno would be terribly isolated in the middle against stronger and bigger players directly man-marking him.Assuming we don't sign anyone:
Casemiro
Eriksen - Fred/McT
Sancho - Bruno - Rash
Bruno will naturally drop deeper which would give the two midfielders behind him freedom to play B2B roles and constantly make runs. I think this might also be the only formation where Beek could potentially resemble a footballer. Worth a try imo.
If you're referring to my post, not at all. Beek is probably the most pointless player I've seen at the club. I don't have any realistic hope for him. But if we go down the Bruno false 9 route that would allow two B2B midfielders in front of Casemiro. Roles that would suit Eriksen, McT, Fred and even Beek.This suggestion seems more like another attempt to force DVB into the lineup; a player that has flattered to deceive his entire time in England. Also a player who seemingly isn't impressing the manager who made him to get anything more than time wasting sub appearances.
