This reinforces my point though doesn't it? Changing players will not mean that our style or our league position will change.
We have gone through all these players and coaches yet, we still play the same football that Moyes did.
So you have to look above, the people making these decisions. You also have to look at this objectively.
Tell me if the following is wrong:
1. PLaying crap - sack manager
2. Manager sacked, new manager appointed
3. Manager gives all players a chance and has some of his recommendations as to what player suits his style?
4. Transfer window comes, overspend on a few players, narrative "manager is backed"
5. Cannot sell players that manager wants to get rid of.
6. Manager has to adapt style to suit some of his players, rest from different regimes.
7. Players do well in the first year, new manager bounce, techniques.
8. 2nd full season starts, still can't get the players the manager wants and we dont play consistent football.
9. Manager gets sacked and we back to square 1.
Now tell me, from all of that and what you have said, how changing 1 player will change our fortunes?
Sorry for the late reply, was held up on work.
Romufc, I think we are going round in circles.
Bruno Fernandes is the epitome of Current Man United team. He's the captain. He plays the most matches, he takes penalties, he's the 'most creative player', probably you dont want to accept it but HOW WE PLAY IS BREAD AND BUTTER, Bruno Fernandes. First you need to accept this. From there everything else will fall into place why some things happen. This current football is what has brought immeasurable pain and anguish to us fans.
About People above..
Ed Woodward left in Feb 2022. Technically. It was announced that time. Since 2022, we've had ETH as a manager yet we have scored 115 goals in a season. City scored 90+ goals this season.
So Ed Woodward can't be blamed on our current problems for sure.
Richard Arnold already left, United have gone to a 60 point a season
We are in 2024. 2 years apart. Yet we have struggled in goals and leaking goals. Our GD in 2 years is - 1 and 0
Yep, ETH has endured a - 1 GD in his 2 seasons as United manager, cumulatively.
Glazers have given out football control, same season we have lost record number of games.
I tell you, in all humbleness, even if we buy a new stadium tomorrow and play the same way we play we will not achieve even 70 points.
Our problem is we don't have a sustainable playing style. It's very easy to see and identify.
ETH has been unable to achieve it. Partly because of playing transition football.
Ineos are not foolish people, the indecisiveness regarding ETH future is absolutely warranted and genuine. If ETH was backed and believed in, why talk about his future yet it's the status quo. It means even the higher powers can see how unsustainable our club is.
I said it in June 2023, go to ETH thread. And I quote it again
"in 18 months (from that time) either ETH or Bruno leaves but both won't be here" not because I am a prophet or future reader but because it's extremely easy to see how we play is not sustainable in the long run. And it was even before Ratcliffe was confirmed as Co-owner.
Again I say it I know people will call me names, but I am 100% I will be vindicated
ETH or Bruno won't be here in the next 6 months, and if they will be here by end of January 2025, our pain and anguish as fans will be double of what we've endured in the last 12 months.