It does boggle the mind. He’s got so much wrong on the footballing side you can only think he’s worried about this being another
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If he arrives the Portuguese Frank Lampard he'll fast become the Portuguese Gylfi Sigurdsson.
If he arrives the Portuguese Gylfi Sigurdsson he'll fast become the Portuguese Darron Gibson.
If he arrives the Portuguese Gylfi Sigurdsson he'll fast become the Portuguese Darron Gibson.
All of who would probably get game time in our current team.
I do now feel this is the issue. It’s been clear for ages that we need to strengthen in several areas. All we’ve done, so far this window, is sell a player. I’m really getting the feeling they don’t trust Ole with the money and he’ll be gone by end of season.
Especially as compared to our squad right now, we're relying on Pereira and Mata as our number tens. We spent 80m on a centre back that we didn't even desperately need! we're screaming out for a class number 10 that can shoot and pass.
This just isn’t happening is it? The most desperate we’ve been in years for midfield reinforcements and we can’t even sign a player who’s desperate to join us. Refusing to part with an extra few million to improve the team while these fecking parasites that own us have lined their pockets with over a billion of the clubs money now. Shocking!
Feels something like that. Either we're taking the piss stalling for time or we genuinely don't have it.
It is happening and it's just going to be a negotiated deal on deadline day.
Wolves not doing bad with their Portuguese recruits.
They don't mean he's a risk in that he might be worse than Lingard. He is clearly better than what we had in the same way Maguire is clearly better than what we had. But spending huge amounts of money to only slightly improve upon players who have proven themselves substandard is not a good strategy. We paid that much for Maguire because we thought he'd be one of the best defenders in the league, in the same way we'd pay that much for Fernandes if we thought he'd be one of the best midfielders in the league. There's a chance that Maguire won't be that, and the money would've been better spent elsewhere - that's the risk. Same here.
We're one of the richest clubs in the world and also one of the most desperate clubs in the European elite. That makes these negotiations difficult because we're in such a weak position. That's just the reality. Generally when you're in a weak negotiating position you don't just cave into unreasonable demands, even if you're responsible for making those unreasonable demands possible in the first place. And if you did exactly that in the last deal, and it hasn't worked out all that well, it's sensible to be a bit more cautious this time.
There's no easy solutions to our predicament. That's just the reality of the situation.
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He's an immediate improvement on what we have for a price that is becoming more and more likely for a midfielder to the PL. To buy him now considering the trajectory of our season, doesn't hold any more risk than signing anybody does.
Wolves signed 7 Portuguese players for £3m less than the transfer fee we have reportedly “low balled” them with and are refusing to budge on.
Money isn't there. Just more lies from the club. Be 1/2 loan deals at best now and we'll finish outside EL places for sure.
The day these twats sell the club is going to feel better than winning number 20. Oh we shall be partying.
The day these twats sell the club is going to feel better than winning number 20. Oh we shall be partying.
I agree. My comment was really aimed at those saying buying Portuguese is risky. If you’ve got the right scouting network there are bargains all over the place. Wolves and Liverpool are demonstrating that.
But we're not buying him for the rest of the season, we're buying him for the next few years. So if he proves to be better than what we have, but ultimately not good enough in 18 months' time, that won't have been a good use of resources. If we had limitless money then there'd be no risks, but you can't ignore the fact money is limited and his signing needs to be looked at within a broader transfer strategy, rather than a one off impact buy.
We're not talking about getting Henrik Larsson on a 2 month loan. Only 2 midfielders have cost €80m+ before, and it's debatable whether the clubs that bought them would do the same again this time round (Pogba and Coutinho). It just isn't true that paying that amount of money for this player is a no brainer. It might be the right decision but it isn't mental to have reservations about it.
Again wise words, but unless I'm mistaken we still have the same people making these decisions, so as highlighted why would we suddenly be expected to be intelligent, when we are still so clearly 'boneheaded', so just pay up.
I don't think they'll sell they'll continue to line their pockets. The fanbase need to continue taking action. As much as I hate to say it, they need to stop going to games and buying merchandise. Hit them where it hurts. They only way they'll leave is if we can force them out. Not replacing any of the players we've sold is negligent ownership. They are leaving Ole out to dry. Look at our net spend the last few windows absolutely pathetic for a so called "big club" in our situation. Do you think Bayern , Madrid, Juve, Barca or any other big club would have such a net spend it they finished outside the champions league places. I don't think so! Look what Madrid spent last year!
Sky have it now that United agreed in principal at 55m then lowballed later at 42m when they sniffed that they needed money
They have to do this deal surely.
Andreas playing that position for the rest of the season is unthinkable.
Andreas playing that position for the rest of the season is unthinkable.
Obviously we shouldn't be spending stupid money on this guy. If he can't be had for a reasonable price, then hold fire and assess in the summer. This season is gone anyway.
I'm not championing Bruno, I'm just saying Ole clearly wants him, we are saying we want to back him, Bruno wants to come here, we are desperate, so just get it done, if he flops the sooner we are to moving on, if he's a hit the sooner we are to getting a decent team together for Ole.
We're fecked no matter if we get him in or not.
Him with the other 3 main injuries back would be interesting to see, but it'll be too late in the season by the time they are all back.
Him with the other 3 main injuries back would be interesting to see, but it'll be too late in the season by the time they are all back.
Sky have reported almost every variations possible in this deal. Almost as if they have no clue ..
Well United took 2 huge risks with players from Sporting and as far I can see was well worth the risk.
Which is the complete opposite to the story Simon Stone et al were reporting saying that United were told they were close to an agreement but the fee suddenly jumped up to £70m when they sensed we were desperate and being pressured by our fans.
Rojo?
I did also say we should pay up you know.
I know which version I’d believe more and it’s not stones brief. United have history
Oh sorry m... Wasn't aware someone said young prospect, thought the poster said that he was young which are two different things. Apologies
Disagree, if we can get a top player in January then we definitely should.
Anybody that helps us achieve top 4, that is an absolute must for us to get this rebuild moving forwards.
Plus if we have acquired a player now our hand will be stronger in negotiating with clubs in the summer, as we won’t look so desperate and depleted. Win win.
Mate they have no money to spend that's the problem . Them parasites have ruined our club and I for one will not be renewing my season ticket and I won't be getting another one until the Glazers are fuked out of the club
That player wasn't 100% from Sporting and he did good for Sporting and Argentina so maybe was the way the team played the issue.Rojo?
The thing is, the prices this upcoming summer window won't be cheap either due to the Euros. Dither this Jan window, imagine the hesitation this August?
We are guaranteed to feck up this more difficult window with the Euros and once again no CL to offer.
It’s going to be a shit show and it’s pretty obvious our money is tighter than gnats arse.
i actually think his agent is thinking we can do better than united
I really hope there is no truth in Utd agreeing a deal for £55m and then deciding to undercut Sporting by offering £42m.
That is a complete and utter insult and then to rub salt in the wound we have that vile yankee leech Joel Glazer sticking his nose where it don't belong.
That is a complete and utter insult and then to rub salt in the wound we have that vile yankee leech Joel Glazer sticking his nose where it don't belong.
The funny thing is no United player would play for Portugal and the 3 best players (Gea, Pogba and Rashford), Patricio is playing better than Gea, Bruno is playing better than Pogba for the last 2 years and Rashford would have to compete with Ronaldo or Silva.
Pogba is deployed in a deeper role for France. Griezmann plays the same role as Bruno.
None of them are Portuguese though
If that was true the club would have distanced itself from a deal like with Dybala.
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