If he's as good as reported then perhaps it's one to be excited about. Good getting him in January too so he'll bed in early instead of coming back late from the Euro's and barely getting a pre-season.
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I just checked this yesterday. He is 20 out of 22 from the spot, and 16 out of 17 since he joined Sporting.
Roy Keane will be waiting in the car park to break his legs.
So is that a positive or a negative? Can’t quite work it out.
His Dad's leg's have not been broken. Do not want.
Wouldn't that automatically give him ballon dor?
So if this works out can we write: Fernandes rejected Barca to join United, like every other story would have been, if it had been the other way around (even if there is zero evidence that they were ever interested in him) ?
That’s a positive for me....sick of United’s name getting dragged into the papers and used by others, mostly when we’ve got no interest. It just ends up whipping fans into a frenzy unnecessarily....
99.9% of people on this forum (obviously me included) have no clue about the negotiation for Fernandes. It’s just another reason to post negativity about the club. If you’re going to believe everything you’ve read in the papers about this deal, I’ve got a deal on a bridge you might be interested in.....
Not sure what to make of this deal to be honest. I'm really pleased that we're getting an upgrade at number 10, we desperately need one, and he does look like a good player so from that point of view this is a positive following lots of negative stories recently. Hopefully he does well for us, despite being a poor side it's still not inconceivable that we can make the top 4 if things go our way.
However at the same time the club seemed to think in the summer that he wasn't what they wanted (he gives the ball away too much apparently) and that this story was being driven by the Portuguese press. We knew he was available then and ever since for the right price so the fact that it's taken this long would indicate serious reservations within the club and also begs the question how effective this new scouting model is that we couldn't find anyone that we liked more when it was clearly an area that needed strengthening even going in to last summer.
However at the same time the club seemed to think in the summer that he wasn't what they wanted (he gives the ball away too much apparently) and that this story was being driven by the Portuguese press. We knew he was available then and ever since for the right price so the fact that it's taken this long would indicate serious reservations within the club and also begs the question how effective this new scouting model is that we couldn't find anyone that we liked more when it was clearly an area that needed strengthening even going in to last summer.
I think he is, Penna. Show him who's the boss
.So now you're taking it from the original offer me made, as opposed to the amount they originally asked for? Genuinely, this is getting a little ridiculous now.
From the original quoted prices, to the prices we have been quoted now. Roughly a 20% difference. It is quite mind boggling that people think our club should not negotiate.
Genius!You know I’m taking the piss right?
What you on about? Weird.
Christ on a bike, Saint Maximin is the definition of a player without a brain.
Buendia looks okay whilst playing for Norwich and will probably find a decent team next season when they're relegated but c'mon mate.
I'm not saying we shouldn't negotiate, but if we were willing to pay a guaranteed €65m for him (assuming we make it into the CL in the next 5 years), I'm fairly sure we could've got him on Jan 1st for a guaranteed €5-10m more (and a maximum of €15m more). Our mistake was initiating the negotiations with a derisory offer (considering their very public valuation of him) that extended the negotiations by a couple of weeks.
Having him integrated into a weak squad at this point could've made a big difference to our top 4 aspirations (and if it didn't we'd not have to pay the CL entry bonus anyway) considering the performances of the position's current occupants. And as I said above in another post, having him sorted by the 15th of January could've made it possible to go after another target in this window, seeing as we can seemingly only negotiate for one player at a time.
Plus it's not my money and seeing as the club's quite healthy financially, I as a supporter value the on-pitch performances and increased chances of CL participation far higher than a few million for one of the richest clubs in the world.
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Has no one stopped to think about how this will affect Lingard's development??
Bruno will watch and learn from Lingard, until he is ready to take the mantle (or at least try his very best) when Lingard goes to Barcelona this summer.
Nah, Lingard's a kid. Got loads of time to develop into the worldclass midfielder.
He's too young to be starting. By the time Bruno is about to retire, Jesse will be entering prime years having benefited from his tutelage.
Isn't it obvious Bruno and Lingard will work in tandem?
Between last summer and what’s went on this window I’m still stopping myself getting too giddy until I see him holding up the shirt. Been burned by this to much already.
This is the wrong transfer to use to make your point.
If we'd also managed to get Haaland this would have been a great window. Now need to get a striker/winger in on loan.
This seems done and tomorrow will be a relief. Maybe even one more before the end of the period.
Nice!
We need bodies up front so wouldn't rule it out.
Seems like the club have changed tact. I believe that Raiola was being a greedy cnut. On the other hand Dortmund was a great choice for his career.
Its Bruno. Bruno Anthony!
They both play in different positions silly
Why do you keep posting thatIts Bruno. Bruno Anthony!
Yeah, I admitted as much in another post as well after the release clause had been pointed out and said that Hargreaves/Anderson/Nani announcement in May was a better example. However, I still stand by the point that we could've wrapped this up much earlier if we'd started negotiations way before the transfer window opened.
They were trying to sell him last summer and had a fairly well-known debt, so why we waited to start negotiations until January and then dragged the negotiations out by severely low-balling them despite a known valuation for the sake of saving €5-10m is something I, as a supporter mostly concerned with our on-pitch performances and chances of CL qualification, disagree with. Like I said, having him available for Burnley/Wolves could've made a big difference in those two games. After all, we're spending big on him because we believe that he can make a difference.
That's literally how every negotiation works. You're making the mistake of thinking there's some magic number Sporting wanted. They wanted as much as they could get because they're financially fecked. Whatever number you offer, they'll counter it with a higher one.
Yeah I know why the Haaland deal didn't work out but would have backed us to be favourites for top 4 with both him and Bruno in.
This definitely feels like a transfer we didn't intend to make though until the injuries started piling up. He was on our radar but we had to pull the trigger once Rashford, McTominay and Pogba got injured.
Lingard’s just after banging one in against Tranmere! Bruno will have to earn his way into the side.
It was quite widely reported that they wanted €80m during the entire negotiation process.
However, you'd think (and this is me making an assumption) that there's a difference between what you want and what you'd expect to get. My guess is they would've taken €80m (60+10+10) all along, but you're right that I don't know that. Just because their valuation was €80m I don't think they expected it all up front or in guaranteed sums without bonuses, so I think that the assumption that we've successfully managed to lower the price by €15m during January is a bit far-fetched, but it's all a matter of opinions and what assumptions we make.
Can upload image but a mate sent me a photo of a United shirt with Fernandez and number 18
"Will nobody stop to think of the kids!?!?!?"
We are signing another player?!
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