Bryan Mbeumo | United submit opening bid 45m + 10m

At Sporting he started off playing more defensive fullbacks there as he implemented his style, but slowly transitioned to one and then I believe both wingbacks being more of an attacking winger. It's pretty much certain he intends to do the same here on at least one side (if not both) so the question is whether it'll be this coming season or in another 12 months. Also whether it'll be Amad who is the one chosen to play that role or somebody else.

In regards to Amad, we were in a situation where he was both our best RWB and our best R10. So him being mostly chosen in the latter this season doesn't necessarily mean that's Amorim's long term plan (our midfield being quite weak may also have played it's part in Amorim being a bit more conservative). If the Mbeumo links are legit, and especially if we also strengthen our midfield, it definitely looks like Amorim is intending to use Amad at RWB on a regular basis. That doesn't mean it'll happen every game, and indeed over the course of the season I'd expect Mbeumo, Amad and Dalot to rotate quite a lot between those two positions.
Think we need a faster CCB if we’re going to consistently play with two attack-first wing backs. Obviously not a priority this summer but getting Diamonde from sporting or someone of that ilk (good pace for CB, athletic and also a very good passer) the following year once Maguire moves on would be important for that. I’m a fan of De Ligt but he’s also not the fastest.
 
I always called him Alvaro Fernandez .. Think that's what he used to go by when he was here. I don't know where the Carreras came from. Confused me for a bit.
Spaniards have more than one surname I believe. Their naming tradition is significantly different from ours. There's an article on wiki about it I believe. Fernandez and Carreras are both his surnames, presumably one is paternal and the other is maternal.
 

PL fastest players 24/25​

PlayerTop speed (km/h)
Micky van de Ven (TOT)37.1
Matheus Nunes (MCI)36.7
Bryan Mbeumo (BRE)36.6
Yankuba Minteh (BHA)36.4
Anthony Elanga (NFO)36.2

That's me told :lol:

Surprising actually, thought he might be a case of short player, legs go fast, but actually doesn't cover ground as quickly as you would think.
 

PL fastest players 24/25​

PlayerTop speed (km/h)
Micky van de Ven (TOT)37.1
Matheus Nunes (MCI)36.7
Bryan Mbeumo (BRE)36.6
Yankuba Minteh (BHA)36.4
Anthony Elanga (NFO)36.2
Nunes second fastest? No wonder Pep plays him at right back as Walker replacement.
 
exactly we signed sanchez and it went brilliantly
Sanchez failed because we signed him when he was almost 30, played decent for a few months then fell off a clif. Players who rely on physicality often have a sharp decline this is why Liverpool specifically aim for players in the 22-24 range because they're considered pre peak/about to peak. Mbeumo at 25 has the best years of his career in the next few seasons.
 
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It's clear as day. He's a good squad player for a team trying to win the league. He's nothing more.

If we're aiming to be a top team you have to upgrade players like this.
It is in no way clear as day that Amad has reached his level.
 
It's clear as day. He's a good squad player for a team trying to win the league. He's nothing more.

If we're aiming to be a top team you have to upgrade players like this.
The only thing that is clear as day is that his trajectory is upwards at the moment and continuing to rise. There's no evidence that he has plateaued. He is electric on the pitch. Defenders do not enjoy when Amad is running at them.
 
I had a dream last night with our front 3 (Cunha-Osimhen-Mbeuno) destroyed Liverpool(5-0 win) in the season opener at Anfield.
 
Mbuemo and Cunha behind a proper number 9 with overlapping wingbacks is very strong. Problem is we lack the number 9 and the wingbacks. And Mbuemo.
 
Sanchez failed because we signed him when he was almost 30, played decent for a few months then fell off a clif. Players who rely on physicality often have a sharp decline this is why Liverpool specifically aim for players in the 22-24 range because they're considered pre peak/about to peak. Mbeumo at 25 has the best years of his career in the next few seasons.

I was just taking the piss about Sanchez
 
Mbuemo and Cunha behind a proper number 9 with overlapping wingbacks is very strong. Problem is we lack the number 9 and the wingbacks. And Mbuemo.
Dorgu is an overlapping wingback but just not very great. Amad would then likely also play as a wingback, but he can overlap and invert as well.
 
It's clear as day. He's a good squad player for a team trying to win the league. He's nothing more.

If we're aiming to be a top team you have to upgrade players like this.
What an insane take. One of the few bright spots in a miserable season, has improved massively over the past couple of seasons and is only just about to turn 23. Replacing him in the starting 11 is probably the lowest on a very long list of priorities that the club should have right now.
 
Dorgu is an overlapping wingback but just not very great. Amad would then likely also play as a wingback, but he can overlap and invert as well.

I don't want to write him off too soon and he's definitely an interesting left-field (in every sense) addition who adds something different. The major problem so far has been his total lack of anything even resembling an end product. For all his pace and power he seems technically way off it at this level.

I would be interested in seeing Amad adapt to that position, especially with Maz on that side able to cover for him defensively. Amad's also surprisingly strong and robust.
 
I don't want to write him off too soon and he's definitely an interesting left-field (in every sense) addition who adds something different. The major problem so far has been his total lack of anything even resembling an end product. For all his pace and power he seems technically way off it at this level.

I would be interested in seeing Amad adapt to that position, especially with Maz on that side able to cover for him defensively. Amad's also surprisingly strong and robust.
Agree 100%, might work but Dorgu doesn't really convince me. He may very well improve.
 
Id really like him here. I know its probably unpopular but Id think Mbuemo plus Cunha even without a new striker still totally changes our attack. Cunha plus a striker could also obviously be fantastic and of course a number 9 seems our most pressing need - but signing two of the seasons best players, entering their prime, and with their profile of physicality, confidence, and so on I think they'd just shift the entire mood of the team. The prospect of Cunha, Mbuemo, Fernandes, Diallo, and lets for arguments sake say Zirkzee, all on the pitch at once, is just so much better than what we have.
 
Id really like him here. I know its probably unpopular but Id think Mbuemo plus Cunha even without a new striker still totally changes our attack. Cunha plus a striker could also obviously be fantastic and of course a number 9 seems our most pressing need - but signing two of the seasons best players, entering their prime, and with their profile of physicality, confidence, and so on I think they'd just shift the entire mood of the team. The prospect of Cunha, Mbuemo, Fernandes, Diallo, and lets for arguments sake say Zirkzee, all on the pitch at once, is just so much better than what we have.

You get a much better Zirkzee if Cunha and Mbuemo are the attacking midfielders. That's for sure.
 
You get a much better Zirkzee if Cunha and Mbuemo are the attacking midfielders. That's for sure.

I think its actually a pretty formidable front three - but totally understand why people would prefer a striker. If it were Amad-Cunha-Gyokeres for example, that could equally be fantastic, but theres a nice sense of balance to the former. If you have 3 forward players getting up around 20 goals, you're doing very well. Same if you have one striker getting 35 and two 10s chipping in, but I like a nice balanced forward line
 
i would genuinly not touch any other postions on the pitch if it meant we had an attack with Cunha and Mbuemo behind either of the victors going into next season, we need a complete overhaul in our attacking play.
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i would genuinly not touch any other postions on the pitch if it meant we had an attack with Cunha and Mbuemo behind either of the victors going into next season, we need a complete overhaul in our attacking play.
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GK or CM would need addressing
 
GK or CM would need addressing
If it was a choice between say New GK, New CM and Cunha, vs Cunha, Mbuemo and Victor Osimhen or Gykores, im going with blow out new attack, i think we would get more points with the latter and have more entertaining football.
 
If it was a choice between say New GK, New CM and Cunha, vs Cunha, Mbuemo and Victor Osimhen or Gykores, im going with blow out new attack, i think we would get more points with the latter and have more entertaining football.
True I would as well. Remember the Liverpool side with Sterling, Suarez, Sturridge alongside Gerrard. They had such a poor overall team but was proper top heavy side. They came 2nd just behind City and was a slip away from getting their hands on PL. Not that I am saying we will be similar to their team. But any team which is too heavy definitely gives you more chances to win the matches.

Our last PL title was also based on RVP, Rooney, Hernandez and Carrick having an amazing seasons but by that time Scholes, Giggs, Vidic, Ferdinand were on last legs and we kept conceding goals and had acres of spaces in midfield but we kept winning due to having amazing attack and players just giving the last push.
 
GK or CM would need addressing

Think the plan is to move Bruno to midfield and stick with the existing options. I haven't seen any midfielder linked to us.

Case
Ugarte
Mainoo
Bruno
Collyer
Kone

With no Europe., I guess thats our midfield unless we sell some.

Definitely think we will sign a GK and probably a left wing back.

Rumor is 125m + sales.

Cunha, Mbeumo ,GK and a striker will take all of that budget.
 
Thread title is demoralising.
I will take him in a heartbeat, he looks like Mane type player and will explode in a bigger club.