Hardly. Nvidia's prices will be so high (as ever) that AMDs offerings won't have to become much cheaper. Also, a real new generation of nV GPUs is 9-12 months away.
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Which sucks. We really need a high end AMD card to compete with Nvidia, but we've been saying that for years now.
But you don't actually need >=144 FPS at all times to profit from a fast monitor like the one under discussion. Due to VRR you'll always be free of screen tearing, and the response time / input lag will always be low. You'll only want to actually use the full 144 Hz refresh rate for competitive gaming in fast shooters.
Fair points. At least the driver issue is enough to keep me away from now. Hoping for a bit more variety in cards with aftermarket coolers too.
But if you have a decent gpu you don't have to worry about all of that even on 60hz.
The 5700 XT is a very decent GPU, as fast as an RTX 2070 (non-super).
I'm trying my best to get a 240hz monitor but every time I agree a price with people they stop responding 
I'll mostly be playing first person shooters and for everything else i have freesync.
Regarding the fps see the following benchmarks for csgo from linus:-
I too was surprised with 5700xt..its also cheaper than the super one's!
Yep, if you're only playing those types of games you are fine. I wouldn't expect anything close to that with more graphically demanding games.I'll mostly be playing first person shooters and for everything else i have freesync.
Regarding the fps see the following benchmarks for csgo from linus:-
I too was surprised with 5700xt..its also cheaper than the super one's!
If you care about twitch shooters or comp games, fps should ALWAYS come first.
For all other games, it depends on the person. Obviously screen size and settings for looks, fps if you prefer smoothness. No matter what though, monitor refresh is always last. It's very cool running at 144hz or above, but 60hz with higher fps is better on a budget.
For all other games, it depends on the person. Obviously screen size and settings for looks, fps if you prefer smoothness. No matter what though, monitor refresh is always last. It's very cool running at 144hz or above, but 60hz with higher fps is better on a budget.
Anyone do VR? Wondering if its worth taking the plunge and building a decent VR gaming machine. Or would I be better just going down the PSVR route?
VR is in the first stages. But it is seriously awesome if done right. The future is there for it, it's already more than just a gimmick.
However, there's no such thing as building a system around it. The next generation will be far more accessible. If you have the money right now, definitely go PSVR with the move and aim controllers, that's where it is at. For PC, just as normal go with your budget, whatever you buy now will run the next gen of VR.
For £400 you can also have the Occulus Quest which needs neither, but again it's first gen tech and I'm wary of it's power and future games being ported. If you have a ps4, especially pro, the psvr is the current best option in that price range imho.
My current build going together:
Intel i9 9900K - Will be overclocked to a minimum of the turbo speed of 5ghz, but shooting for 5.2-5.4ghz
Asus ROG Maximus Hero XI
32GB DDR4 Ram
ROG Geforce GTX 1080 ti X2 in SLI mode. (I already have one and I got a second fairly cheap)
1TB WD Black M2 NVMe SSD for OS
2TB SSD for primary data
Custom Closed Loop dual tank liquid cooling system
Seasonic Flagship Prime 850W
Putting it in a large tempered glass tower case. Was going for the Thermaltake 900 tower, but there seem to be some issues with it currently.
I am hoping this build will last me a solid 4-5 years. With just some upgrade on the GPUs when the next gen come out next year. For storage I have 16TB of mirrored drives on my NAS. Primarily for the film collection.
Intel i9 9900K - Will be overclocked to a minimum of the turbo speed of 5ghz, but shooting for 5.2-5.4ghz
Asus ROG Maximus Hero XI
32GB DDR4 Ram
ROG Geforce GTX 1080 ti X2 in SLI mode. (I already have one and I got a second fairly cheap)
1TB WD Black M2 NVMe SSD for OS
2TB SSD for primary data
Custom Closed Loop dual tank liquid cooling system
Seasonic Flagship Prime 850W
Putting it in a large tempered glass tower case. Was going for the Thermaltake 900 tower, but there seem to be some issues with it currently.
I am hoping this build will last me a solid 4-5 years. With just some upgrade on the GPUs when the next gen come out next year. For storage I have 16TB of mirrored drives on my NAS. Primarily for the film collection.
Looks good.
My new desktop arrives tomorrow:
NZXT h700i white
Maximus Hero (wifi)
i9-9900KF + Corsair hydro h150i pro
Titan RTX + Elgato game capture HD60Pro
64GB G.skill Trident Z, 3200mhz, CL14
Kingston KC2000 2tb m.2 nvme ssd + 2x Samsung 860 Evo 2tb ssd
Going to be fun, for a while!
I got a Rift S the other month and honestly, it's brilliant. It's far from perfect but that doesn't stop you enjoying it.
I also find that it's very often a great workout.
Nice! Very similar build. What made you go with the KF over the K? I know the former lacks on board graphics which we don’t need anyway. Or was it a pre-build that came like that?Looks good.
My new desktop arrives tomorrow:
NZXT h700i white
Maximus Hero (wifi)
i9-9900KF + Corsair hydro h150i pro
Titan RTX + Elgato game capture HD60Pro
64GB G.skill Trident Z, 3200mhz, CL14
Kingston KC2000 2tb m.2 nvme ssd + 2x Samsung 860 Evo 2tb ssd
Going to be fun, for a while!
I can’t decide if it’s worth me springing for more RAM. 32gb feels like plenty, but for whatever reason I’m tempted to go to 64gb. Suppose I can do that later.
Easily. Unless we go back to the days of software getting ahead of hardware development you ll probably be fine for the next 7-8 years imho.
It's not worth going for more than 32gb. Doubt most need more than 16gb ram.
Went with kf over k i because its newer and is reported to potentially be slightly better for overclocking, but cost the same in the build I configured.
All the KFs I’ve seen benchmarked for overclocking performed slightly poorer than the Ks funnily enough. Are you planning to overclock?
Yes.
I wish I could afford all this shit. Here's me trying to figure out if I can afford the 2070 super over the 2060 super with my measly 16gb ram and 3600.
Need to make space for the speaker and hang my monitors on the wall. Other than that I could re-do some of the cabling done if I ever get to be in good form. Otherwise I'm liking it.
Gtf o here with your clean build. Been building pc's since the early 90s and I just can't ever get it that clean. Probably bc I get cases that aren't the best and I keep changing shit that even if I do have my cables in order - it turns into a hot mess down the road.Need to make space for the speaker and hang my monitors on the wall. Other than that I could re-do some of the cabling done if I ever get to be in good form. Otherwise I'm liking it.
The cpu-cooler cable should be under the upper-end of the bar. Sticks out like a sore thumb. That's really the only big issue I want to fix someday, if I can be bothered (I can't).
Also managed to get some smudges on the glass near the speaker, but they aren't noticable on the picture.
Great job!Need to make space for the speaker and hang my monitors on the wall. Other than that I could re-do some of the cabling done if I ever get to be in good form. Otherwise I'm liking it.
What do you use the Titan for?
So that's close to 5000€ of PC?Need to make space for the speaker and hang my monitors on the wall. Other than that I could re-do some of the cabling done if I ever get to be in good form. Otherwise I'm liking it.
80 000nok, so would equal 7150gbpSo that's close to 5000€ of PC?
The f*ck... unless you have some solid gold hidden in there i assume PC stuff is a lot more expensive in Norway than in Euroland.
(or are you including the monitor setup etc.? My estimate was about the PC alone)
It's a lot more expensive in Norway, like everything is. Only thing not in the PC that was in that price was a 2xl mousepad for 300nok.
That seems almost reasonableIt's a lot more expensive in Norway, like everything is. Only thing not in the PC that was in that price was a 2xl mousepad for 300nok.
So, I assembled something similar to your build on geizhals.de for fun:
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Just looking at the rigs in this thread makes me jealous. I'm still running an i7-3770k with a GTX680
It would be interesting to see the price comparison in full, just some small changes to go:That seems almost reasonable
So, I assembled something similar to your build on geizhals.de for fun:
Maximus Hero (Wifi) and not maximus extreme for motherboard.
G.skill trident z 3200mhz 14cl at 64gb instead of the 3600mhz ones
Replace the ssd with 2x 860 evo 2tb ssd's and 1x kingston kc2000 2tb m.2 nvme ssd.
Add elgato game capture hd60pro.
The rest is just rgb.
Will get to it shortly
Here we go. The Ram is without RGB I think - the other variant is not in stock right now, and therefore tagged with overblown prices (>1000€). I think they're actually replaced by the Neo variants similar to those I had before; those would be the better deal right now.
The storage bumped the price a bit, that's some massive drive space.
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So over here we're still paying 1k+ more for the same. No shocker.Here we go. The Ram is without RGB I think - the other variant is not in stock right now, and therefore tagged with overblown prices (>1000€). I think they're actually replaced by the Neo variants similar to those I had before; those would be the better deal right now.
The storage bumped the price a bit, that's some massive drive space.
Guess somewhat less due to rgb version of the ram & a few fans and led strips, but it's more or less as should be performance wise. Norway in a nutshell.
Even more than 2k (€) difference, isn't it? Over 30% more in total, that's quite brutal.So over here we're still paying 1k+ more for the same. No shocker.
Guess somewhat less due to rgb version of the ram & a few fans and led strips, but it's more or less as should be performance wise. Norway in a nutshell.
I always think of euros and gbp as the same (nok x10~), so didn't think of your post being in euros.
Ah, I see.I always think of euros and gbp as the same (nok x10~), so didn't think of your post being in euros.
Eur = Nok x 10 is actually very accurate, much more so than with GBP ^^
So lads, a challenge for a bit of fun (just that because I’m skint).
IF you had unlimited money, build your best PC rig (list what you’d get)
IF you had unlimited money, build your best PC rig (list what you’d get)