By this time next week we could be out of all cup competitions
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Looking at his trophy cabinet I must agree.
We don't impose ourselves as a team and because of the lack of identity in doing so we struggle in knockout competitions when the momentum is required to get going immediately. We have performed on an average basis throughout the season and these types of scenarios only suit a domestic league because it's a marathon not a sprint.
I'll be very surprised to see Solskjaer winning any cups here under his management. I think due to his style if you can call it that we have more chance at the league as opposed to KO competitions as a result.
I'll be very surprised to see Solskjaer winning any cups here under his management. I think due to his style if you can call it that we have more chance at the league as opposed to KO competitions as a result.
What is the point of this thread now? It's just completely unnecessary negativity based on something that may or may not happen.
If it does happen, make the thread then.
If it does happen, make the thread then.
"Silly" is a little unfair, it's just my opinion. Whilst I dont necessarily disagree with what you're saying, my concern is that we look run into the ground and are running on fumes at the moment, i think that showed against West Ham too as we looked short of ideas and whilst we missed a couple, hardly peppered their goal.
This idea that teams need to win some tinpot trophy like a League Cup or a Europa League to progress and “learn how to win” is nuts. It’s another lazy soundbite that pundits trot out and has absolutely no basis in fact.
I couldn’t give a monkeys how we do in the Europa. We have bigger aspirations than that nowadays. Same with the League Cup. Pointless. We won both trophies under Jose and fat lot of good that did us!
It would be nice to win the FA Cup, sure, but how many have City or Liverpool won since 2010? I can’t think of many, yet doesn’t seem to have done them much harm.
Plus, the thread is stupid. You’re complaining/speculating about something that hasn’t happened.
This week is massive. It would be absolutely gutting if this time next week we're out of both cups, I want 2nd and a trophy.
It's so annoying these two big games are back to back, but its how it is at the moment.
For me, 2nd and a trophy would be a real step forward. This team can't continue losing out on winning something, its important for the mentality for this squad to get over the line in a competition.
I want us to win every trophy we're ever in contention for, always have, it won't change for me.
It's so annoying these two big games are back to back, but its how it is at the moment.
For me, 2nd and a trophy would be a real step forward. This team can't continue losing out on winning something, its important for the mentality for this squad to get over the line in a competition.
I want us to win every trophy we're ever in contention for, always have, it won't change for me.
I don’t expect us to win any trophies for the entire time Ole is here, so it’ll be shit, but unsurprising.
I’m an Ole skeptic, quite frankly we should all be, but I think that view is a bit extreme. There is potential in the squad and I think there has been some evidence that the team is capable of winning a big game or two, it just hasn’t been at the level expected for a club our stature. I say wait and see how the the two game go before jumping to that conclusion.
This.
His in-game management is really really bad. His handling of Fred in the PSG game & his handling of the last 20 against Milan tell me everything I need to know. We’ll go on good & bad runs, but I just cannot see him winning a trophy.
Would you be willing to leave this forum if we win something while Ole is in charge?
My cousin generally likes to bet on the opposite of what he hopes for so that he "wins" no matter what. I on the other hand, like to double down
Give me top 4 with 75 + points and that's a brilliant season. Ole deserves one more season with that improvement. We were on 66 points and a 10 point jump is huge.
I wouldn’t leave but I’d post less because I use this forum to moan, if I want to banter or be positive I use my group chats. I hope he does prove me wrong, but I can’t see it. There’s a reason all rival fans are celebrating his new contract.Would you be willing to leave this forum if we win something while Ole is in charge?
My cousin generally likes to bet on the opposite of what he hopes for so that he "wins" no matter what. I on the other hand, like to double down
In a week you guys beat City and West ham. Picked up points against Top 4 rivals yet you are looking forward to when you will be potentially out of 2 cups.
As a neutral, the Ole in and Ole out gang cracks me up
As a neutral, the Ole in and Ole out gang cracks me up
Or we could still be in all two Cup competition too.
Audi Cup + Trophee des Championes mean that cabinet is no longer completely bare!
I said within 10pts and a trophy at start of the season. If we can't do either its not a successful season in my view, how far away just determines how bad it is.
Saying that top 4 and he keeps his job regardless of trophy. It should not be the same next season however.
Saying that top 4 and he keeps his job regardless of trophy. It should not be the same next season however.
You honestly expected to turn a 30+ point deficit to a ten point deficit in one summer?? A summer that consisted of about one week of pre-season.
If you can honestly answer that question with a 'Yes', I'm going to call you a liar.
The fact that you wanted to close the gap to 10 points AND win a trophy indicates that you might be a bit over-optimistic and might need to have a bit of reality in your life. Hopefully Ole will deliver that bit of realism to you and might think more realistically in the future.
Would you have had a fit of rage with a trophy but finishing 11 points behind?
It sounds like it should be a joke, but this is what is actually happening
I don't know, I'm starting to feel quite optimistic about the Milan game. We just need one goal there to level things up. We really should be able to pull it out.
As for Leicester game I am not worried about it. We always do well against them. Though I don't think we will win the cup the end anyway.
Let's see what will happen.
As for Leicester game I am not worried about it. We always do well against them. Though I don't think we will win the cup the end anyway.
Let's see what will happen.
You mean teach him how to lower his expectations?Odd thread......
Would be brilliant if we beat Leicester, and Everton somehow managed to beat City. I that happened, I'd really fancy us for the cup.
Could still finish the season second and with 2 cups. That would be a brilliant year........ I hope this is what is being said in the changing room.
Would be brilliant if we beat Leicester, and Everton somehow managed to beat City. I that happened, I'd really fancy us for the cup.
Could still finish the season second and with 2 cups. That would be a brilliant year........ I hope this is what is being said in the changing room.
The FA Cup stopped being a major trophy for clubs the day we withdrew from it to go to the World Club Championship.
We used to make fun of teams for being in the Europa League, never mind winning it.
Fergie only said nice things about the importance of winning the League Cup to make it seem like it mattered. Spurs won a league cup in 2008, where it it take them?
Whats with the passive agro with you Ole fanboys
That was far from a rare target at the start of the season. Largely because of the very reasonable assumptions that no team would get high 90s and our own 66pts itself was an underperfomance.
We've made bigger leaps, we were 24pts behind title winners Chelsea in 2017, 2018 we finished 11 above them. Heck we're doing it now with Liverpool, things swing.
Getting top 4 alone is not a good season for this club. We sack managers who don't get it, that should tell you it's the bottom.
I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I'm gonna go right ahead and say that by this time next week, we'll be top of the league. All ya'll can call me crazy but just wait until it happens...
I stopped reading at this point and quoted back so there's a record of it.
Welcome to Redcafe. Please leave your common sense at the door as you enter
I think you’ll get through against Milan, but be beaten by Leicester.
And then draw Spurs in the EL quarter finals and have to play Mourinho-ball 3 times in 7 days in April!
And then draw Spurs in the EL quarter finals and have to play Mourinho-ball 3 times in 7 days in April!
Same for every team in fairness aint it?
Captain obvious.
Tough four games coming up in all comps, would be very good for us to put a good run together now.
Wouldn't surprise me if Pogba and Cavani have been kept back for this run-in.
Tough four games coming up in all comps, would be very good for us to put a good run together now.
Wouldn't surprise me if Pogba and Cavani have been kept back for this run-in.
We will probably draw 0-0 to Milan and beat Leicester, then go out to City in the semi. Top 3 seems to be on course this season as long as we don't go on a downer if we are out the cups. Next season will be all important trophy wise as if we finish potless again then Bruno will be looking to leave
He needs to win on Thursday. After going out of Europe the way that we did, he quite simply needs to show that is is capable of beating lesser teams consistently.
If we go out of both cups at this stage, it would be all the proof I needed that we won’t win anything under Ole.
If we go out of both cups at this stage, it would be all the proof I needed that we won’t win anything under Ole.
You’ve conveniently ignored the point I was making about Fergie’s first trophy as a United manager. Of course it matters, it’s an idiotic argument that trophies don’t matter at a club like United. How many years did we mock our rivals for not winning anything and now we’re in the same boat but stick our noses up at the chance of winning something. No wonder our supporters are constantly mocked and laughed at when insanely stupid arguments like yours are put out there.
FFS Spurs in 2008, that’s the best you got? How about pep and city who relentlessly pursue every trophy, not putting their noses up to any success including the league cup. We’ve won 3 fecking trophies post-Fergie and you have the gall to suggest we’re too good for the FA cup and Europa league!? Deluded.
Only reason I want to win the Europa League is to avoid the seeded teams in the Champions League group stage draw
Pretty sure it could well be less than 2 clear starters because the club will plead COVID poverty again
Sounds like last season. But lets play the matches first
Don't give a feck about either the Europa League or the FA Cup to be honest. Top 4 has to be the priority.
Putting Ole through that test is the best way of finding any objective judgement before season end.
Agree, i think we get more than 75pts
Why being negative?
You could aswell asked, in two months we could win trebble (PL, EL and FA cup). Would you be happy with that? How would it reflect on Solskjaer?