I'd like to see Juve win, but Real don't often lose European finals. The last one they lost was against Fegie's Aberdeen in the CWC in '83. Before that, Liverpool in '81. Juve seem to lose finals all the time.
Champions League semifinals (2nd legs)
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I think Real has the best midfield, in terms of the forwards Barca at their best are still a level above.
I've hoped no club will do the CL back-to-back, but this weird Real team looks like it will be the one.
Real have had a few games where they looked underwhelming this season but literally all 10 of their outfield players are capable of making decisive attacking contributions. Half of their team can be below their best and they'll still win regularly due to that.
But Roma HAVE TO win, Juve don't. If they lose, they'll beat Crotone next game and win title.
Meanwhile Real are level with worse head to head so HAVE TO go for two wins.
We've scored 12 more goals than them in La Liga.
Yeah, I was watching the game and despite losing on 2 so early I was not worried, just waiting for us to score to kill the game and put all this nonsense about a comeback to rest. I think even Atlético didn't believed they could pull this up they scored so fast and early but once the adrenaline decayed they didn't know what to do; to keep on attacking or try to defend and prevent an away goal from Real Madrid. In the second half is as if they didn't know they had lost the first game 3-0 and were content with just keeping their one goal lead like if this was a league game.
And we have a better run in consecutive games scoring, we might still lose the final but is almost a given we're gonna score in that game.
Casemiro is an absolute scum of a human being. I hope he gets his deserved red card in the final, but knowing Real's influence I wouldn't bet on it.
Him and Ramos deserve each other; two thugs.
he is a defensive midfielder stopping a counter, that does not make him a scum of a human being
. There were 115 fauls in the game. Surely he deserved a yellow but Gabi could get 3 or 4Who the hell are "we"......
Barcelona are the best attacking team in the world. They are just massively surplus to Madrid in pretty much every other area, and given how gung ho Perez is for galactico attackers, that's insane. But Barca's midfield is pretty empty for what you expect of them, thus the strain on Messi. The regret on letting Thiago, hell even Fabregas go, must be hurting right now, even if those moves did lead to another CL.
Barcelona are the best attacking team in the world. They are just massively surplus to Madrid in pretty much every other area, and given how gung ho Perez is for galactico attackers, that's insane. But Barca's midfield is pretty empty for what you expect of them, thus the strain on Messi. The regret on letting Thiago, hell even Fabregas go, must be hurting right now, even if those moves did lead to another CL.
I fecking hate Real Madrid as a Club. But I must admint their greatness and this epic thing they have to win matches even when they look like they're gonna fall. There's always something for them, like that play from Benzema out of nowhere.
And their anthem is my favorite
And their anthem is my favorite
The semis went as expected but Atleti put up a good fight, that Isco goal just completely flattened their tyres. Isco was fantastic for Real, he's so skillful and has a terrier quality to his game. Of Atleti's main players Carrasco was the most effective but I thought Saul had a decent game, he just couldn't get as close to the superb Modric as needed in that second half
I havent watched Real as much this season as previous seasons as Spanish Football changed to a different broadcaster here. However onthe 4-5 occassions I have managed to see them, there is a re-ocurring patternhe is a defensive midfielder stopping a counter, that does not make him a scum of a human being
1. Players surround referee after every challenge by the opposition
2. Casemrio kicks s*t out of the opponents every match and rarely gets booked (maybe just a yellow)
3. If Real are losing there is usually a disputed penalty given to them
4.. They are still the biggest s8ithouse football club in the world
You simply dont bet against Madrid in the CL finals.
Seems you have your colors mixed up - the cvnts in blaugrana would be barcelona
The semifinals were very one sided.
That Real side is so great going ahead. Dislike them, but like their mentality where they are always looking to score. Very difficult to stop them from scoring.
That Real side is so great going ahead. Dislike them, but like their mentality where they are always looking to score. Very difficult to stop them from scoring.
Casemiro is just doing his job. Not his fault that refs wont book him.
TBF, their last few results have been:
SF SF SF W SF W .?
1.It happens in every match in Spain, and probably Italy and Southamerica. Perhaps it´s a cultural thing, the referees are more used to this and the teams repeat it in Europe.
2.He is not an angel but I don´t consider him an aggresive player. 8 yellow cards in la liga, in 22 games, perhaps he could have got some more but it seems reasonable.Ramos is the captain of Madrid and probably has the record of red cards in la liga, so I don´t see a pattern "Madrid=he doesn´t get yellow card", but of course the big teams use to get more helps
3.We had a penalty against us in Munich, in the second game in Madrid and today. Yes, we get penalties, and Barça too, I guess that both teams attack a lot, with more minutes of play in the areas, however I don´t see a conspiracy pattern.
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, so explain me, why the biggest shithouse football club?Playing an extra mid in Isco was the right choice against Atlético (don't know if forced or tactical), but might not be against Juve who have better cover in central defensive areas and more threat on the counter.
Playing with width would be a better option to control the game. This is why I feel Bale or Vazquez should be considered, especially since Carvajal is a doubt as well.
Having said that, Isco has been playing very, very well. He'll probably leave if he doesn't start the final
Today alone I think we got a legit penalty in our favor at the very beginning of the match, before any of the 2 Atlético goals were scored, committed to Ramos in a corner kick and it wasn't conceded. Still I'm sure people are going to say we were benefited this match as well but just wanted to point that.
The situation of Isco has changed a lot.Some months ago wasn't better than James.Now the club can't afford to lose him. Press and Bernabéu would be crazy against Florentino.Playing an extra mid in Isco was the right choice against Atlético (don't know if forced or tactical), but might not be against Juve who have better cover in central defensive areas and more threat on the counter.
Playing with width would be a better option to control the game. This is why I feel Bale or Vazquez should be considered, especially since Carvajal is a doubt as well.
Having said that, Isco has been playing very, very well. He'll probably leave if he doesn't start the final
About Bale,I hadn't thought about that.Let's see.If we win with Bale I'll say that Zidane has a great vision,if we lose he will be a puppet of the president
Unfortunately right now everybody Will protest after any decision, a pity because overshadow the football moment of the team
But didn't do it when they needed to .... no goals v Juve..
Meanwhile Real
Excellent.... how'd you get on in the Champions League (The title of this thread)?
Penalties #UCL 2016/17:
Atletico 5 in favor, 1 against
Bayern 5 in favor, 3 against
Barca 4 in favor, 1 against
Real 0 IN FAVOR, 6 AGAINST
Cry louder!
Congratulations to Real for their 12th title. No one does losing European cup finals better than Juventus.
When they win in Cardiff, they will have won as many European cups in 4 years as we have won in our history.
That is just painful to type.
When they win in Cardiff, they will have won as many European cups in 4 years as we have won in our history.
That is just painful to type.
Makes it all the more hollow when you see some mentioning us as the biggest in the world.
Nice jinxing attempt