You really read some strange stuff on here. This is your issue with him? Really?
Havertz is only just coming into form and Werner would be a 20 goal striker this season if he hadn't missed so many easy chances. I don't think the system is the issue. We need those guys to bed in better next season and probably to bring in a top class CF too.
Yeah, I see things similar. However, where Jose decided it was a good idea to sell KdB and Salah, I don't see Tuchel doing something similar.
If they do that, they would as a collective, probably be the best squad in England. I say this not due to first XI vs first XI against Utd, City, Leicester and the Dippers etc, but because of their depth and the way Tuchel is coaching them. I mean look at the two Madrid games, give Håland those chances and the aggregate score is more likely to be 5 - 1 if not more.
give us a prime diego costa in this side and we are laughing !
I think so too. Won‘t be easy to land Haaland but he (Haaland) must be considering them, young squad, top manager etc.
Hats off but it's going to be a boring fecking final with both teams playing with 7 midfielders each - 1:0 scoreline
So would a lot of strikers all over the world
That's the price they pay for all the internal politics between Tuchel and Leonardo.PSG
not to mention that Chelsea normally actually play very posession-oriented. They're not at all a sit-back-and-counterattack team.
The term "fraud" is getting thrown around far too often in this context these days. Obviously Lampard didn't work out and while he might be a shit coach all around, we don't know yet. What we definitely know is that under these circumstances Lampard couldn't succeed. As I said, maybe he's total shit anyway, but there's no need to make hyperbolic statements about Lampard's nonexistant achievements since the actual facts already show that he blows, so far. That's bad enough and actual reality.
I thought it was a very entertaining match played at a high tempo. That person must not have watched the match.
I agree that is the part of their game where they have challenges. It was really striking how Tuchel changed this team almost immediately - you could IMO see the basic elements of what they are now already in that first game against Wolves, just a few hours after he took over, which is really remarkable. What he did was establish a strong control game, where high and intensive pressing and defensive organisation resulted in a lot of possesion, and not much vulnerability. But for the most part, you haven't seen them create a lot of scoring chances, which is all the worse given that they lack clinical strikers who don't need many opportunitues.
As in Chelsea's higher than ours ?
If you're including Mount then Pogba should be included. Dan James barely features for us and shouldn't be on there. With the proper lineup (Pogba in for James), I'd take our lot over their forward players all day long. To downplay our squad/frontline to puff up the 'fantastic' job Ole has done is weird. Our squad is really good, teeming with technique and pace. With a couple of additions we should be challenging next season.
If I were them, I wouldn't go for a top striker but for Sancho. He's a generational talent and fits perfectly in their fluid attack. Havertz as a false 9 and Werner also work perfectly as seen yesterday. Both Chelsea and City are currently proving that thise formations work. And not too long ago, Liverpool reached twonfinals playing a false 9, too. Even PSG weren't playing a traditional no. 9 in their recent runs with Mbappe. In terms of work rate and runs Werner seems rather similar to him.
I don't agree with you - I think we have a significantly higher top end of attackers than Chelsea, though Chelsea has more depth of quality. There's no one there who matches Rashford, Pogba or Bruno, though they are all very good players. The same thing is true throughout the squad, really. Chelsea's strength is a big, high-quality squad, their weakness is that they're lacking any really elite individual players.
His finishing was always average at best, so I highly doubt he'd be able to score such numbers.
That's the caf for ya. Nothing if not original.
On that list I’d say United have the better individual players to be honest. That’s what is impressive with Chelsea, yes they have depth, but it’s the system they ply that’s elevated them. Who outside of Kante is in the argument for world class?
If we're talking about xG, then your point about not needing Haaland or another top striker overlooks a quite major point: While Chelsea has an xG not very different from the other top teams in the PL, they are underperforming that XG much more than any of the others. Leicester and United are 7-8 goals above their xG in the PL, City is just very slightly above, Liverpool is ~5 below and Chelsea are more than 7 below. They are also performing worse under Tuchel than they did under Lampard in this respect: 1.3 goals per game with a 1.8 xG, while Lampard had 1.7 goals per game with a 1.8 xG.
We have higher net spend than CHELSEA for 9 years running by about 300mill
Yep. Our answer is always transfers transfer windows and transfers. Carragher aluuded to it
Inaccurate statement Chelsea do not have a world class team in the slightest. There's room for improvement. I believe United to have the stronger potency of players on the first team sheet.
Been thinking about this a bit, & why I think (me included) have said they don't really enjoy watching Chelsea, & I think it might be perception more than anything else.
The key there is Net. Because we are historically shit at selling players. We have not been great at buying them either, but we improved a bit since Ole joined. Although slabhead did not come cheap. I think we are in a far better position now than we have been for the past 8 years or so. Now we 'just' need a couple of players in key positions.
It's a perception because we either only score once or not at all miss a load of chances which puts pressure on our defence to hang on in the end. In the space of about 20 mins of the second half havertz hit the bar with a header missed a sitter silva missed 2 headers mount missed a sitter kante missed a sitter.
Like I said, it's probably a perception rather than the reality. I was actually just trying to justify some fans thinking on their views on Chelsea, while at the same time praising Tuchel & Chelsea for what is actually happening, & why I mentioned with a more clinical addition to the forward line you'll be main challengers in the league for me.
Thing is, Werner's current season is a negative outlier. He was never the most clinical finisher but you don't score 28 goals in the Bundesliga being so nervous in front of goal. And so far Havertz hasn't only hinted his goal scoring abilities, too. He's a player who scored 15+ goals a season from midfield.
