2 Champions League finals in a row. 3rd best manager in the world?
Chelsea appoint Thomas Tuchel
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Their loan system is a way to work around FFP.
Our academy works to produce players for United. Even this season, we have played 3 academy graduates on average.
Even if he wins 25 CL's in a row, he is one of the biggest numpties in football. How the feck do you give Giroud a fanatical 30 seconds long instruction when there's 28 seconds to play and you're 2-0 up. Roger Schmidt at psv does the same thing. Maybe it's a cultural thing.
How do you take yourself that seriously. Boggles my mind.
How do you take yourself that seriously. Boggles my mind.
Abramovich doesn't feck about, he got rid of Lampard in time and now they have top and are the Champions league final.
I never understand this logic. There's more than one way of playing football. Not every team has to play attacking football just to be great. It's a freaking sport with ton of tactics and strategies. Every team plays what suits their selection of players the most. The football will be actually dead when there's only style played by every team.
Did you watch the game? Chelsea played it perfectly, terrible finishing aside. Were head and shoulders above Madrid and probably should have won by three or four.
We have been a mess but we are getting better and smarter with Ole. Our team is one of the youngest in the league, we will get better.
I meant in the style of play. Tuchel plays pragmatic football as much as Ole but the media love in for him would be insufferable if he won it. Better him than City though.
How did the Glazers prevent Utd from reaching the CL final this year? Utd are even ahead of Chelsea in the PL table.
This made me chuckle. Yeah, I noticed it too. He's a bit...'focused' no doubt, but a good coach.
By keeping that clown Woodward in charge for decades
I saw the game and have seen enough of Chelsea, thank you. Did you not agree with my assessment that Chelsea are a pure counter attacking team. We play the same way and get called out as a one-trick pony. Chelsea do the same thing and people are behaving as if Tuchel has brought in some revolutionary new tactical genius with him. They sit deep, defend hard and hit teams with pace. That's our template and we have done very well with it.
Tuchel's footy is unwatchable to be honest. They are a borefest. We are a much better watch.
What did Woodward specifically do that made Utd waste points against that Turkish side in the group?
Goes to show how much that Chelsea squad was underachieving under Lampard and i wonder will the many UK journalists finally admit that now?
Well done Chelsea, fully deserved. I appreciate Tuchel has done brilliant, & I appreciate the organisation, the work rate & aggressiveness, they look a nightmare to play against, but i can't say I enjoy watching them play, but you just can't argue with the results.
But the previous summer they spent 0m. We are far away considering we got knocked out of the first round and they are in the final. Sleep walking the likes of Roma and Sociedad should be expected.
I think he's building from the back (emphasis on keeping it tight), initially at least, which is probably a smart thing to do. There have been signs that things are beginning to click up top and if he gets Havertz and Werner scoring they could be terrifying. I just think on all nights to make this point, tonight (when they've beaten European royalty at a canter) seems an odd one.
Lanky Frampard just smashing up his TV tonight. I so hope Chelsea beat City in the final as much as that will suck too.
Wether some Manchester United fans like it or not, and on a broader scale the unbearable militant football hipsters on social media this days, the reality is post Ferguson he is the most similar to him (doesn´t mean he is a super tactician, whatever that means, or that he has to stay forever).
Regarding Tuchel, yes a massive upgrade on Lampard (who I always said was massively overrated and quite inferior to Gerrard, but the only answers I received regarding Gerrard was yes but Scotland, like if Rangers was anywhere near Celtic before he arrived). Of course the problem with Tuchel and Chelsea is on the long run, but quite ridiculous if Leonardo from PSG was responsible for letting him go.
I think Real Madrid would be much better for City and Guardiola, don't see any reason why Chelsea canoot win this in a one off game. All the pressure on City and Guardiola.
Hamstrung our squad for years. Ole worked wonders to overcome PSG in that group. Really doubt we would've gone far though with a midfield of Fred McTominay Matic
I reluctantly agree. When I see comments like his I always have to think of that Cruyff quote that says ”Playing football is very simple, but playing simple football is the hardest thing there is.”
Rate their chances 50-50 in the final. They look like an absolute pain in the ass to play against and most importantly don't think they suit City at all. Surprised how physical they are in their game also.
He has done an excellent job, no doubt about it.
Tbf, Ole fully neutralised him in the only game they played in EPL so far. And it was Chelsea who needed 3 points in that game. On top of already good record against him.
He has done an excellent job, no doubt about it.
Tbf, Ole fully neutralised him in the only game they played in EPL so far. And it was Chelsea who needed 3 points in that game. On top of already good record against him.
Hats off - they look an absolute machine right now. He's clearly a talented coach and I wonder if, even though the forward line in particular is less 'star studded' than PSG simply by having players who buy into the system and seem to have no egos is going to be perfect for him.
Going to be a fascinating final. Huge pressure on Pep and City.
Going to be a fascinating final. Huge pressure on Pep and City.
I don't post in Chelsea threads and tonight seemed relevant as they have just reached a CL final by playing bland football which we have been criticised for.
Not sure about the building from the back thing. Yes they are solid but he is extra defensive and that is clear in the way they set up every time under Tuchel. We will soon find out if that's his template or if he will get more extravagant with his style of play. I am betting on him using the same defensive counter attacking set up next season too.
Effective, but boring.
But the squad was good enough to overcome PSG. So if Woodward is to blame for wasting points against that Turkish side, isn't he also to praise for beating PSG?
So they're better than us in every department except the manager?
If anything that’s a testament to how Ole is over achieving with our squad. All you have to do is look at what Chelsea did last summer transfer and compare it to what we did then you will understand how owners make a difference.
Yes, for real, I find your team horrible to watch, no matters who has the most draws. We have scored more goals then you as well, by miles.
They had an xG of almost 4 this game and people think they're boring?
Especially since this was an atypical Tuchel match. Chelsea usually dominates possession under him.
Especially since this was an atypical Tuchel match. Chelsea usually dominates possession under him.
Roman doesn't suffer fools.
He provided the manager with a proper squad. Worry was they'd hire a competent manager.
They'll be challenging for the league next season.
Chelaea has a higher xG than United this season which means their finishing is worse but they're chance creation is superior.
I know which is why I keep saying 2nd place next season will be a lot harder, Liverpool will also be back. Top 4 will be very hard again next season.
I think you are confusing the duties of a CEO with a manager.
Well, they did finish ahead of us before Ole took over.
That's the kind of ruthlessness we need.
BTW, did I seriously hear Joe Cole and Glen Hoddle try and give Lampard credit for this result?
We're battling for top 4 again?
There is no excuse for us not to challenge next season. Literally zero excuses.
I think if you guys get kane you right up.there.
Tuchel is one of the best managers around. Ole is good. There's no comparison.
With or without Kane, there should be a title challenge.