I don't think I can bring myself to do it.
"Come on Smithy"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Agreed.
would leave a sick taste in the mouth and all i can think about when i see him is songs about munich and sick shite like thatblythy said:I don't think I can bring myself to do it.
why is this in the united forum?
I don't think that, I, as a Manchester United fan, could chant for Alan Smith, who it seems, will be a Manchester United player soon...mu77 said:
Poor Walter.
redcharlie said:
I'm not bothered about the Leeds connection really. He's the type of character who'll give 100% for whoever he's playing for...I think he'll even spill blood for us if he had to.
I don't want him for footballing reasons only.
I don't want him for footballing reasons only.
redcharlie said:
yeh id agree with that. as long as he gave his all for us everytime he played then i could grow to like him. eventually. maybeJJ_Batchelor said:
It's the fact he's a Prize Cnut which bothers me more...JJ_Batchelor said:
it's gonna be hard for ALAN smith to win over the fans if he should come to OT. most of the fans (esp in this forum) are always calling him all sort of names, and accusing him of singing munich songs, etc.
I suggest we put aside our pre-conceived misconceptions first and see what he can do if he should signs.
can we? or will the OT crowd boo him on his home debut? that would be a shame.
I suggest we put aside our pre-conceived misconceptions first and see what he can do if he should signs.
can we? or will the OT crowd boo him on his home debut? that would be a shame.
When you pull on the shirt, you belong to Man United. I'll cheer him on the same as anyone else.
I may grow to appreciate his 'hard work'
Bit more ketchup on that hotdog Smithy lad!
Bit more ketchup on that hotdog Smithy lad!
My sentiments exactly.Wandering Red said:
He will make it very easy for us to further dislike him when everyone realises how shite he is.Wandering Red said:
I'd like Wright-Phillips to be signed, or Gerrard.
Because they have talent.
Because they have talent.
Wright-Phillips is talented however he is only 4stone and 3ft2Nem 7 said:
Bring on Gerrard! at any cost, we MUST sign him, he is the future!
redcharlie said:
Shane Bluck said:
NO garlic breads the future!!
Shane Bluck said:
crap is one thing he is not!
let's just hope that everton beat us to him. i would find it hard to support smith in a united uniform. he's one of those players that i have grown to despise. let smith go, find someone else out there who is worth chasing.
In reply to agent Kidd’s undercover work at Leeds, which led to disastrous financial problems, change in style of play and unrest in the playing staff, Leeds have released their own undercover agent…
Agent Smith’s jobs involve:
Lying to the fans
Hitting the ball over the goal posts
Picking up as many yellow and red cards as possible
Kissing the badge and being a false fan's favourite
Throwing bottles at home fans
Agent Smith’s jobs involve:
Lying to the fans
Hitting the ball over the goal posts
Picking up as many yellow and red cards as possible
Kissing the badge and being a false fan's favourite
Throwing bottles at home fans
It would be a shame if he were booed by his new supporters, Rio was a Leeds player and didnt get booed, admittedly he isnt in Alan Smiths league. I dont think Smithy will fit in with us personally but i have nothing else against him and if he signs il cheer him on like anyone else.
It would be a shame if he wern't booted by his new supporters.Jason F said:
"Its United or no one." says Smith
Thats a positive sign, eh.
Thats a positive sign, eh.
This is all a lot of nonsense. Of course there's fierce and often bitter rivalry between the two clubs. Smith can't be held responsible for that. Clearly Fergie thinks he's a good player, which he is, and more importantly he wants to join us ahead of other Clubs. I suggest most fans will "forgive and forget" when he pulls on a United shirt and then everyone will be behind him when he scores his first goal for us.
I doubt he would be giving his all for us thoughJJ_Batchelor said:
, he's played for an anti-manUtd team his entire career... hard to see...Oh and of course all the other Premier League teams are pro-Manchester United, aren`t they? They are such paragons of fairness when it comes to matters MU - it`s only that crew from over the Pennines who are anti-MU, isn`t it?
An opposition team is an opposition team. Opposition teams can have good fans who are fair and scum who associate themselves with the team but wouldn`t know what football is about. Chelsea fans count some of the nastiest, most bitter fans you could meet anywhere - and if you go by their hooligans, some of the scummiest.
There is an extra rivalry with Leeds but please remember one thing - the modern era of football happened a long time ago and with it came professionalism. Players have the right to move between clubs as they wish, and I for one would question the ambition of a player of Smith`s quality and future potential if he decided to stay with the no-hoper manager and management that have dragged Leeds down to the First Division although the players have to also take responsibility.
If Roy Keane had come from Leeds he would have had the same comments made about him. Dirty scumbag, thug, criminal etc etc ad nauseum. The only reason Eric didn`t get that stick was because he was a foreigner who was never really associated with Leeds - he went to the club, helped it to the title but never really fitted in. He is also a different type of player from Keano and Smith.
But if you try to tell me that Keano would have been welcomed with open arms from Leeds if he had played for them - what a load of nonsense. He was already considered a `dirty` player by opposition fans when he was with Nottingham Forest and that would have been blown right out of proportion if he had played for Leeds.
An opposition team is an opposition team. Opposition teams can have good fans who are fair and scum who associate themselves with the team but wouldn`t know what football is about. Chelsea fans count some of the nastiest, most bitter fans you could meet anywhere - and if you go by their hooligans, some of the scummiest.
There is an extra rivalry with Leeds but please remember one thing - the modern era of football happened a long time ago and with it came professionalism. Players have the right to move between clubs as they wish, and I for one would question the ambition of a player of Smith`s quality and future potential if he decided to stay with the no-hoper manager and management that have dragged Leeds down to the First Division although the players have to also take responsibility.
If Roy Keane had come from Leeds he would have had the same comments made about him. Dirty scumbag, thug, criminal etc etc ad nauseum. The only reason Eric didn`t get that stick was because he was a foreigner who was never really associated with Leeds - he went to the club, helped it to the title but never really fitted in. He is also a different type of player from Keano and Smith.
But if you try to tell me that Keano would have been welcomed with open arms from Leeds if he had played for them - what a load of nonsense. He was already considered a `dirty` player by opposition fans when he was with Nottingham Forest and that would have been blown right out of proportion if he had played for Leeds.
You go girl!! Everything you have said is spot on.giggsgirl said:
Thank you!
bring Smith in, sell out Forlan.
We must see for the future.. he's young and talented. and Smith is a type of player who will give everything in the pitch.
We must see for the future.. he's young and talented. and Smith is a type of player who will give everything in the pitch.
giggsgirl, you talk nothing but sense. Every post, every time. Well done. I agree completely.
What choice does he have, Everton?.No one wants him .As i have said before when leeds were flying high he said that he would never join Utd.Gabe said:
Smith comes from Lids, so does Milner. Yet there wasn't any "he's Lids Scum" hostility towards the latter when he was linked to Utd.
It is Smith’s own behaviour that created the current level of animosity towards him. His rep and comments in the past about Utd enhanced his hero status amongst the Lids fans and no doubt he's enjoyed that. Now when he's on the verge of joining Utd, it's rebounded on him.
2 sides of the coin really, he's created the mess himself so he's got to deal with it.
It is Smith’s own behaviour that created the current level of animosity towards him. His rep and comments in the past about Utd enhanced his hero status amongst the Lids fans and no doubt he's enjoyed that. Now when he's on the verge of joining Utd, it's rebounded on him.
2 sides of the coin really, he's created the mess himself so he's got to deal with it.
How do you know no other team wants him?
As for what he said, think about it - any top player at any team that is challenging MU usually says they would never come to Old Trafford, their team will be up there with them, etc, etc. Perhaps Paddy V is the exception. He is on record as saying `Never say never` about MU.
Given that Roy Keane actually shook hands with Kenny Dalglish when he was being courted by Blackburn so Kenny assumed it was a done deal (it wasn`t because he hadn`t given Keano anything to sign), I think these kinds of things, including players claiming they will never go to a particular club because that club is a rival, etc, is understandable.
When Smith was saying those kinds of things, Leeds were flying high, had outperformed other English clubs in Europe etc. Do you remember Becks appearing on the front cover of United mag saying `United fans will never lose me`. Afterwards we found out his agent was talking to Real with his permission around that time.
Footballers have to be flexible - they would be crazy not to in such a short career.
As for what he said, think about it - any top player at any team that is challenging MU usually says they would never come to Old Trafford, their team will be up there with them, etc, etc. Perhaps Paddy V is the exception. He is on record as saying `Never say never` about MU.
Given that Roy Keane actually shook hands with Kenny Dalglish when he was being courted by Blackburn so Kenny assumed it was a done deal (it wasn`t because he hadn`t given Keano anything to sign), I think these kinds of things, including players claiming they will never go to a particular club because that club is a rival, etc, is understandable.
When Smith was saying those kinds of things, Leeds were flying high, had outperformed other English clubs in Europe etc. Do you remember Becks appearing on the front cover of United mag saying `United fans will never lose me`. Afterwards we found out his agent was talking to Real with his permission around that time.
Footballers have to be flexible - they would be crazy not to in such a short career.
Drifter said:
well he wouldnt say that he'd join us when leeds were flying high for obvious reasons!
Now he could go to all the other teams that have bid for him but in his head he thinks he'd feel most settled at Utd. I'm sure he's clever enough to know that there will be doubters in certain sections of the crowd, he'll want to prove those supporters wrong!
can only be a good thing, Saha has the same attitude, Utd or nought.
While supporters tend to be more patient with new signings, an unpopular player with years of experience in the PL won’t get a long grace period, certainly not as long as Forlan’s. Smith's got to make a positive impact immediately or many'll be getting on his back.
Smith's never been a prolific scorer so that pretty much rules out winning Utd fans over with multiple goals. If he overdoes his fire and determination bit, he'll head for the early showers. Given his rep, the ref won't be giving him the benfit of the doubt. (See Cris who's acquired an unfair rep of being a diver. Now he gets carded for diving even when he's clearly been fouled.)
Smith's never been a prolific scorer so that pretty much rules out winning Utd fans over with multiple goals. If he overdoes his fire and determination bit, he'll head for the early showers. Given his rep, the ref won't be giving him the benfit of the doubt. (See Cris who's acquired an unfair rep of being a diver. Now he gets carded for diving even when he's clearly been fouled.)
good post.Keilyn27 said:
that's why i want Smith to joint United. to proved us, that he's a Quality players not a Quality talker.
giggsgirl said:
other teams like Everton, Boro, Newcastle, maybe the Dippers.
Between them and Utd, that's hardly a tough pick. If Arse or Chelski were after him too, he prob won't insist on joining Utd.