Well, he was as good as sacked from both Holland and Barca to be fair. National football is a totally different beast mind.
Seems to have his fair share of high profile fallings out too. Wonder who it will be at United...
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Seems to have his fair share of high profile fallings out too. Wonder who it will be at United...
It's not over-analysing. 'Trying' was a common narrative with him throughout the season. It's a clear indication of his mentality and how he wasn't up to the task.
Bloody hellI'm amazed you didn't over-analyse "here" to mean press conferences rather than football.
But Villas-Boas was a foreigner and so fair game for the cnuts at Sky.Tell me Sky can't get this low! Has the ABU mindset gone over their heads? I wonder how they would react if Wenger was sacked tomorrow morning for example.
Moyes was 1,000 times more deserving of a sacking than everything AVB got in his face.
Paddy Power are known for their satire. Just take a look at their twitter feed and tv commercials.
I'm getting a bit wound up about all this myself. Anywhere anywhere else Moyes would have gone long ago and the idea that he's been shabbily treated in some way is gobsmacking. This man has overseen an absolute travesty of a season.
And with so many other sackings this season and barely a mention of how badly those clubs treated their poor useless managers
Don't blame it on the Shinji
Don'e blame it on the Welbeck
Don't blame it on the Evra
Blame it on the Moysie.
Don'e blame it on the Welbeck
Don't blame it on the Evra
Blame it on the Moysie.
It's not about how bad he did and when he should have been sacked. It's the way in which the news was released. No one is saying he shouldn't be sacked, but it doesn't cost anything to do it the right way and with class. No matter how bad he did.
And just because other clubs trash their managers in public doesn't mean we should be the same.
So when can we expect a statement from Moyes? Even in written form?
Sign of the times unfortunately. Social media means it's very difficult to keep this within the boardroom without it being leaked. I think often these things are also leaked intentionally in order to soften the blow. By the time the club makes a statement, it's common knowledge....
I'll give you 1 guess and it begins with Roo and ends in Ney.
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I'd rather he said nothing to be honest, I just want to move away from and forget the nightmare that was his tenure now.
It says "Don't worry, we've got the perfect offer for recently unemployed football managers: http://bit.ly/FM14SEGAglobal #FM14" and it's from FM's official account too.What does the tweet say? It's censored on my work laptop
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The attempt to rewrite history is underway making this sound like it was a hasty decision. It wasn't. The results don't lie and even if the blame doesn't lie 100% with the manager, sacking the manager is the only feasible solution.
End of a bad chapter for both us and DM. He will go on to be the manager at a club where his skill set is a better fit for their needs and we will find a proven manager who has the required experience at the top level.
End of a bad chapter for both us and DM. He will go on to be the manager at a club where his skill set is a better fit for their needs and we will find a proven manager who has the required experience at the top level.
Fellaini?
I think normal procedure is that it will come through the League Managers Association which can be found here:
http://www.leaguemanagers.com - you can see Hughton's here and many more.
Although, it is reported he hasn't left the training ground yet... at least it was about an hour ago, I imagine he's either taken someone hostage or more likely there are discussions to be had and things to finish off.
I hate this guy usually, but this article is brilliant imo.
http://www.football365.com/john-nicholson/9277002/John-Nicholson
http://www.football365.com/john-nicholson/9277002/John-Nicholson
This is a bit hilarious. On par with the first United manager to be sacked in 30 years or so. We HAD only one manager in this time, you planks.
I'm really not interested in anything he's got to say, I'd be more interested in what the players have to say tbh. With Vidic leaving, maybe some more stuff will come out in the summer as to what his management was like.
I don't know, it's so unlike Paddy Power to stir it just to get publicity...
I was fairly pleased with the Moyes appointment and I am about the same 11 months down the line at his dismissal. Even though I had maintained that he needed 18 months and another summer with significant investment in order for us to see if we had made the correct decision.
The results though have not been up to par, he has not achieved and indeed has fallen a fair bit short of even the lowest of expectations for our season. There has been very little evidence of the players being behind him and the board have taken a very swift decision to remove him after a series of abject performances domestically against teams that are (or rather SHOULD be) on our level.
The squad has been heavily criticised, it has deserved a lot of it, but let us not kid ourselves. Sir Alex Ferguson, whilst the greatest manager ever, was not a Mage or White Wizard and there must be other factors at play for a team who won the league by 11 points last season to fall off so dramatically.
Results is one thing, the other thing at work here is Moyes' relationship, or lack of, with the players. He did well to keep Rooney at the club and motivated enough to produce some good form this season. But there is clearly a strained relationship with Van Persie, Kagawa, Nani, Giggs and it would seem Danny Welbeck also. That only covers those who are still at the club.
In the process of "having a look" at Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia he had also effectively frozen out Wilfried Zaha and drained him of confidence before the season had kicked off whilst Alex Buttner was inexplicably preferred ahead of Fabio who was eventually sold.
On the flip side of that though he was brave enough to blood Januzaj, possibly his biggest plus point on the season.
But that only makes his reluctance to play either Janko or Varela or feck, even Fabio all the more confusing while persistently playing one of either Valencia, Jones or Smalling out of position at right back. Those young players have shown themselves capable of a chance, in a position of need. Even if it goes wrong, it would show intent, that there was a clear plan in place to promote the young lads, something Moyes assured us would happen.
We as United fans had been forgiving with poor results, but to continue to produce dross by doing the same things over and over again, that is the straw, that is why he has gone. He simply can't be trusted to bring something new to the table. The Board, Media and fans all coalesced at the same time on this point. It very rarely happens that such consensus is reached unanimously at the same time by all three parties. Unluckily for Moyes, this was one of those times.
The results though have not been up to par, he has not achieved and indeed has fallen a fair bit short of even the lowest of expectations for our season. There has been very little evidence of the players being behind him and the board have taken a very swift decision to remove him after a series of abject performances domestically against teams that are (or rather SHOULD be) on our level.
The squad has been heavily criticised, it has deserved a lot of it, but let us not kid ourselves. Sir Alex Ferguson, whilst the greatest manager ever, was not a Mage or White Wizard and there must be other factors at play for a team who won the league by 11 points last season to fall off so dramatically.
Results is one thing, the other thing at work here is Moyes' relationship, or lack of, with the players. He did well to keep Rooney at the club and motivated enough to produce some good form this season. But there is clearly a strained relationship with Van Persie, Kagawa, Nani, Giggs and it would seem Danny Welbeck also. That only covers those who are still at the club.
In the process of "having a look" at Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia he had also effectively frozen out Wilfried Zaha and drained him of confidence before the season had kicked off whilst Alex Buttner was inexplicably preferred ahead of Fabio who was eventually sold.
On the flip side of that though he was brave enough to blood Januzaj, possibly his biggest plus point on the season.
But that only makes his reluctance to play either Janko or Varela or feck, even Fabio all the more confusing while persistently playing one of either Valencia, Jones or Smalling out of position at right back. Those young players have shown themselves capable of a chance, in a position of need. Even if it goes wrong, it would show intent, that there was a clear plan in place to promote the young lads, something Moyes assured us would happen.
We as United fans had been forgiving with poor results, but to continue to produce dross by doing the same things over and over again, that is the straw, that is why he has gone. He simply can't be trusted to bring something new to the table. The Board, Media and fans all coalesced at the same time on this point. It very rarely happens that such consensus is reached unanimously at the same time by all three parties. Unluckily for Moyes, this was one of those times.
Moyes is the shortest serving manager in our history.
I think there was one who served for a shorter period back in the 1920s but his name escapes me.
Sacked 3 days before his bday.
You forget Lals short reign in the 20s(PeteStorey will tell you all about it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Hilditch
So, so true.
At any other club in Europe who is anywhere near our stature, he'd have been sacked at Christmas.
cnut broke another record before leaving
I agree completely with all of that
I wonder if Sir Bobby will make any comment..after all, he is one of the main directors...
Danny Welbeck is actually the mafia boss of Old Trafford. People think Woodward and Ferguson call the shots. No way.
What Danny wants, Danny gets. Savvy? Even Phil Jones is terrified of Danny Welbeck.
Absolutely, it would have been absurd to keep him on after this season. We brought a lot of it on ourselves mind, trying to make out that we were on a higher plane than other clubs with regards to managers. Hubris will always catch up with you. Time to get back to reality.
Or as a Chelsea fan on here (I think) aptly put it - welcome aboard the managerial merry-go-round.
Quality article. It's mental the way the media have portrayed the Moyes reign compared with how United fans see it.
Was hoping the rumours were true. Then I woke up this morning to see it's official. Amazing. Let the good times begin. He was never gonna work here, he was too cowardish to succeed here.
Third shortest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Hilditch - 187 days
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Crickmer - 247 days
Moyes - 295 days
Surely even he must have seen the writing on the wall. It can't have come as a big shock. Given the players we have the fact so many of them looked as comfortable on the ball as a heterosexual giving his first blow-job at gun-point, should have told him something at least.
If the team wins the remaining games I have a strong feeling people will want giggs to stay on. The media will get behind him and it could become a big thing
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Yep. Good article. I hate him too and I hate that he was right.
But it didn't take a genius to work out that Moyes wasn't going to work out. Pretty much half the CAF knew this from day 1.
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