Irwin99
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Spurs actually have a really good run of fixtures and I fancy them to get top 4. Pretty impressive for Conte to get them there if he does, considering the mess they were in.
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That was just the most extreme example but we had pretty much a B team out that night (a lot worse than the 17/18 side Conte constantly complained about) and he threw the towel in before kick off.Because Sarr is representative of Chelsea’s squad level and Kane is representative of Spurs squad level.
Point is, he literally has nowhere else to go at this stage of his career, with so many illustrious bust-ups in his resume… United apart, no giant club really needs the fundamentals he brings to the table, these days… and United simply do not want him which is a footballing tragedy, if you really think about it: instead of both going back to straight, immediate title contention, neither will win anything relevant in the next two or three years or even more.He would have been issued some form of promises that he will get a lot of what he wants.
This is a guy who walked out on the club he played most of his career for where he had a guaranteed title every season because in his eyes he wasn't getting enough. He will want to be backed to the tune of a title bid at the absolute minimum.
Spurs actually have a really good run of fixtures and I fancy them to get top 4. Pretty impressive for Conte to get them there if he does, considering the mess they were in.
I actually shared the club's apprehension towards him. Conte is an elite coach but not one for building long term, sustainable success. He'll work some miracles with Spurs and then ceremoniously feck off soon enough once he inevitably falls out with Levy.Serves us right for not hiring him. We are an absolute joke of a club
I actually shared the club's apprehension towards him. Conte is an elite coach but not one for building long term, sustainable success. He'll work some miracles with Spurs and then ceremoniously feck off soon enough once he inevitably falls out with Levy.
I think this concept is fickle when applying for Conte. He left Juventus in absolute dominating position in Serie A. That's heaven and earth comparing to where they were when he took over. His Chelsea, and Inter were not that bad post his departure.I actually shared the club's apprehension towards him. Conte is an elite coach but not one for building long term, sustainable success. He'll work some miracles with Spurs and then ceremoniously feck off soon enough once he inevitably falls out with Levy.
Yeah but that’s just more papering over cracks. The reset button needs to be pushed and I don’t think Conte is the man to be in charge of that process.I knew Conte would eventually show us up. We’d easily be top 4 with him as our manager.
Long term managers are great when you stumble across one like United did and City and Liverpool have but trying to force it by giving an unsuitable manager time (as we've just seen with United) is a lot more damaging than the managerial merry go round.I think this concept is fickle when applying for Conte. He left Juventus in absolute dominating position in Serie A. That's heaven and earth comparing to where they were when he took over. His Chelsea, and Inter were not that bad post his departure.
He maybe short term manager, which fan may not warm up because of potential "betrayal"; but he does his job. It's up to the club to see whether they need him to endure the drama around him.
Can't disagree with any of that.Long term managers are great when you stumble across one like United did and City and Liverpool have but trying to force it by giving an unsuitable manager time (as we've just seen with United) is a lot more damaging than the managerial merry go round.
And who is it then? Erik ten Hag ? And what exactly going to happen if he fail, and we give him like 3 season, and he won nothing in them ? Another reset button and such a good circle, we are already in awhile.Yeah but that’s just more papering over cracks. The reset button needs to be pushed and I don’t think Conte is the man to be in charge of that process.
Thats a good point. I think the club from top to bottom needs to be thoroughly embarrassed before any real action will be taken. The fact we haven’t won 3 consecutive games this season is an absolute fecking embarrassment.Yeah but that’s just more papering over cracks. The reset button needs to be pushed and I don’t think Conte is the man to be in charge of that process.
We've been embarrassed ton of times in the last 8 years and nothing changed.Thats a good point. I think the club from top to bottom needs to be thoroughly embarrassed before any real action will be taken. The fact we haven’t won 3 consecutive games this season is an absolute fecking embarrassment.
Not like this. Not 5 nil at home to the scouse, limp efforts against city, this is much different. Even with dire football under Van Gaal, we still managed to win an FA Cup. Under Jose a cup double and some signature wins against our rivals. Ole we had the bounce and consecutive champions league finishes. This is a team that has failed to win 3 consecutive games all season. We are an absolute shambles and this is the lowest point for the club since we were relegated. This season has provided the lessons that we cannot continue on the same path. There is going to be a cleanse throughout the squad and a new manager.We've been embarrassed ton of times in the last 8 years and nothing changed.
No we over looked Conte for Ole.Did we overlook Conte for Ralph? Surely there was something more to that.
Regardless, looks like Conte might be able to return spurs to the height of Pochettino. Good transformation, after such an incredible poor start that was close to having him walk out or sacked. Being backed with the right players also helped a lot. If Levy tightened his purse, they could have still be playing with Winks in mid and Lucas on the wing. So Levy deserve credit as well for finally backing a manager other than mourinho
Helps to have a group of players who are keen to finish the season in 4th.The way Spurs play and move the ball around is night and day compared to our slugfest.
Arsenal are done. They've lost Partey, they should've upgraded on Xhaka and don't have a goalscorer like Kane or Son.Would be a great achievement for Conte if he can get 4th taking over mid season after Nuno got sacked. Shouldn't be a surprise as he's among the best of this generation. But it'll go down to the wire between them and arsenal.
I don't think it was a choice between Ole/ Ralf vs Conte.Did we overlook Conte for Ralph? Surely there was something more to that.
Well based on the reports ETH is doing just that during negotiations.I don't think it was a choice between Ole/ Ralf vs Conte.
I think your board wasn't interested in Conte because he would have held a big mirror to them and showed them that they were the problem.
I personally would have loved to see Conte tear into the short comings at United (Board and Playing staff alike).
I hope so because it's exactly what you need.Well based on the reports ETH is doing just that during negotiations.
He did a proper job for Italy as well.Who knew if you hire WC manager that has been winning leagues all over the place the last few years and you would get better.
He obviously isn’t a long term option but the fact he won the league with Chelsea then went and won the league at Inter shows he could of made us challenge for a season or two which is better than where we are
In Inter he didn't want to sell his best players. And Inter boss was promised funds for challenging for CL. On top of that they wanted him to cut his salary, which is ridiculous having in mind that he just want the league. They just want him out, cause of his big salary, demands and that he is straight forward.There are no long term managers, just the successful ones. Or to say it differently, nobody can be long term, unless they are successful. And that's where the building process should start from.
Not single one of Conte's jobs ended in tears, as people relentlessly claim in this topic week in, week out. No, he didn't shit the house at Juventus, nor has he downgraded them. He set a perfect foundation for Allegri to work in, after taking over terrible Juventus side before. Calciopoli was in 2006 and Juventus was back in Serie A in 2007, but by the time Conte took over nobody took them seriously anymore. And then he set records with them and made unprecedented dominance.
Chelsea also didn't burn down after he left, and he left on high.
How exactly is Conte to blame for Inter too? He took them to second, then won them the league and left because he wanted guarantees that Inter will keep improving, eyeing to one day win the Champions League. Nobody gave him guarantees, so he left. In fact, he didn't stab anyone in the back (apart from Juventus fans obviously, by taking over Inter), he resigned before Inter even started planning for new season. So it was a very fair move by him. And Inter haven't crashed and burned after him, they are still number one candidates for Scudetto.
This long term thing is silly, wherever Conte has been, he's left things in far better state than they were before him.
He'd be better for us than Ten HagI think Enrique would have been better for us instead of Conte.
Forwards who made the transition to world class under Pochettino's tutelageConte getting that bounce from world class forwards that Jose managed to get at one time with spurs too.
They are the difference