Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)

[Chesterlestreet]

ETH has handled this situation as well as he could so far. But this has been the easy part. The hard part comes when Ronaldo returns to the team and ETH has to actually define Ronaldo's role in the side, make decisions about who goes on the team sheet in real matches, and then deal with the fallout from both players and the media. United isn't Ajax and Ronaldo isn't Haller or Tadic.

Absolutely - yes.

It's become a meme, but that really is a "first test" for him.

He's doing things on another scale now - no disrespect to Ajax but United (as shite as we've been since Fergie) is a very different beast in terms of having every little decision you make scrutinized by the whole world.

It's going to take balls to stand up to Ronaldo - if that's what it comes down to.

ETA But it really shouldn't be about ETH and Ronaldo. It should be about Murtough and Ronaldo - to put it like that. As in - ETH should focus on coaching the players according to his plan - and picking the XI week to week. Dealing with a possibly sulking Ronaldo (and his entourage) shouldn't be his problem - that should be Murtough's department.

To be clear: ETH should simply treat Ronaldo as he would any other player (I presume that he won't drop Ronaldo, or limit his minutes, without reason). If Ronaldo has a problem with ETH's decisions or ETH himself as a coach, that becomes a matter for Murtough - who can then either support ETH or Ronaldo, as it were. But the structural nature of that hypothetical situation should be clear from day one.

 

[Catt]

He saw the size of slabhead's willie and got jealous so now he's having penis enlargement surgery so next time they're in the showers he can show Harry who's boss

Yikes.
That's a vision I didn't want

 

[Spaghetti]

Regardless. Mbappe is the no 9 and Messi plays as a playmaker.

Messi fans using this “playmaker” role as an excuse for one season of human-like scoring numbers is sad. He’s the best player ever, we don’t need to make things up to defend him.

Speaking of defending, he doesn’t do any. He waits on the half way line on the rare occasions that PSG lose the ball. He couldn’t be more “forward” if he tried.

 

[FrankDrebin]

Slabhead and Penaldo battling amongst themselves in the Carrington showers with their tools like some erotic medieval last duel.

 

[The Firestarter]

Slabhead and Penaldo battling amongst themselves in the Carrington showers with their tools like some erotic medieval last duel.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Messi fans using this “playmaker” role as an excuse for one season of human-like scoring numbers is sad. He’s the best player ever, we don’t need to make things up to defend him.

Messi always had more to offer than goals, though - that's hardly a new element introduced just to "defend" him.

He's always been a playmaker. Not - in my opinion - the greatest playmaker ever, but still: he's always had that.

 

[Rolaholic]

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Been quite the humbling summer for his majesty

 

[UnitedSofa]

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[RedDevil@84]

Ronaldo is rapidly becoming the biggest traitor in United history.

Hyperbole much

 

[Hester_manc]

I hope Ronaldo leaves. He will become a bigger and bigger problem for us. He can not press and will not fit into Ten Hag`s football. But on the other hand you except Ronaldo to play almost every time.

 

[GreatDane]

I hope Ronaldo leaves. He will become a bigger and bigger problem for us. He can not press and will not fit into Ten Hag`s football. But on the other hand you except Ronaldo to play almost every time.

I think/hope that will change with EtH in charge. If Ronaldo returns he might be physically fit but he doesn't know the managers tactics, movements, drills ect.
I hope he gets humbled if he returns and made to work for a chance in the first team lineup.

 

[MrEleson]

Fair enough. If they'd signed him they would have won the league.

Oh wait...

They probably would’ve gotten past Real Madrid in the semis with the chances they had.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

If the family issue makes it necessary for him to leave United, then I would expect him to have communicated this to his employers. Nothing we have seen indicates this, however. ETH apparently expects him to return to work (at some point).

If the family issue has no bearing on him staying or leaving (it's simply a matter of him missing out on parts of the pre-season preparations), surely he could have said that he won't leave, period?

He (or his camp) has come out denying the Sporting rumours, no?

 

[tomaldinho1]

If he is to be loaned somewhere, unless its Bayern, PSG, Chelsea or City tier of clubs, for any other clubs United will have to bear a massive portion of his wages. He is on 500k per week (or 375k after thr no-CL reduction which we do not know if it will take effect if he is playing in the CL). Napoli Sporting Altetico etc probably cannot even afford half his wages.

So assuming he is going to Dortmund and assuming they will fork out 100k per week, it means United will be saving 100k a week. Is it worth saving that 100k a week and moving him out or is it better to just keep him at United?

Firstly we don’t know what they can afford but they’d likely make money off him if their only cost was a percentage of wages given his brand. Also Dortmund pay Sule more than 100k, let’s be realistic here.

It’s not about the money anyway, it’s about if ETH thinks he’ll be a help or a hindrance.

 

[Revaulx]

They probably would’ve gotten past Real Madrid in the semis with the chances they had.

Yeah that’s fair enough!

 

[GreatDane]

They probably would’ve gotten past Real Madrid in the semis with the chances they had.

Would they have gotten the same chances with him on the team is another question. They play like a team and that's something he doesn't excel at.

 

[mshnsh]

Messi fans using this “playmaker” role as an excuse for one season of human-like scoring numbers is sad. He’s the best player ever, we don’t need to make things up to defend him.

Speaking of defending, he doesn’t do any. He waits on the half way line on the rare occasions that PSG lose the ball. He couldn’t be more “forward” if he tried.

Not defending him. He has been playing deep for some time now. As for defending, he used to track back alot in his younger years but gradually reduced it with age and hardly does it nowadays if at all.

 

[joedirt87]

bruno is publicly saying nice things, but privately he will be the happiest man on the planet to see the back of ronaldo.

 

[MrEleson]

Would they have gotten the same chances with him on the team is another question. They play like a team and that's something he doesn't excel at.

You could argue they may even have created more chances. He makes runs into the box constantly and is an aerial threat.

Just his presence in the air adds another dimension to their play as they didn’t have someone last season to properly utilise the crossing ability of Cancelo, Silva and most significantly KDB. And his status on the pitch causes defenders to gravitate towards him which could leave space for other players.

 

[GreatDane]

You could argue they may even have created more chances. He makes runs into the box constantly and is an aerial threat.

Just his presence in the air adds another dimension to their play as they didn’t have someone last season to properly utilise the crossing ability of Cancelo, Silva and most significantly KDB. And his status on the pitch causes defenders to gravitate towards him which could leave space for other players.

I disagree, City creates many chances because every player is involved - Ronaldo playing for Ronaldo would make them a worse team.

 

[MrEleson]

I disagree, City creates many chances because every player is involved - Ronaldo playing for Ronaldo would make them a worse team.

Ronaldo has always… in a way….played for Ronaldo and that never stopped his teams.

Real Madrid of 2011/12 were arguably the most free flowing attacking team in the modern era (they hold the record for most goals in a league season in the top 5 leagues) and probably the best counterattacking team I’ve ever seen. Ronaldo was a part of that.

 

[MrEleson]

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[pocco]

So there's a chance of Bayern?

 

[Port Vale Devil]

So there's a chance of Bayern?

Lloyd Christmas immediately springs to mind

 

[GreatDane]

Ronaldo has always… in a way….played for Ronaldo and that never stopped his teams.

Real Madrid of 2011/12 were arguably the most free flowing attacking team in the modern era (they hold the record for most goals in a league season in the top 5 leagues) and probably the best counterattacking team I’ve ever seen. Ronaldo was a part of that.

I don't disagree with that, but I also think that Ronaldo was worth building around, and he delivered like noone else, at the time.
Now, he plays the same way and expects the same service but his body is 10 years older and he can't run for 90 mins, so what he gives in return is not worth it - from a clubs perspective.

 

[pocco]

Lloyd Christmas immediately springs to mind

is that Ronaldo and Mendes?

 

[MrEleson]

I don't disagree with that, but I also think that Ronaldo was worth building around, and he delivered like noone else, at the time.
Now, he plays the same way and expects the same service but his body is 10 years older and he can't run for 90 mins, so what he gives in return is not worth it - from a clubs perspective.

Fair enough. I understand your points and agree to extent but I personally still think he would be an asset for a top team even now when used correctly like his final seasons at Madrid could attest to.
And I think he would have improved City in attack for the things I mentioned (heading/aerial presence to take advantage of their excellent crossing specialists and his ability in pulling defenders away, etc). Just would’ve given them different options to work with.

 

[GreatDane]

Fair enough. I understand your points and agree to extent but I personally still think he would be an asset for a top team even now when used correctly like his final seasons at Madrid could attest to.
And I think he would have improved City in attack for the things I mentioned (heading/aerial presence to take advantage of their excellent crossing specialists and his ability in pulling defenders away, etc). Just would’ve given them different options to work with.

He would be a great asset, deadly, if he could live with not being the main striker or the center of attention. Having him as impact sub or as a second striker starter against teams we expect to dominate would be amazing - but he won't go for that. And he would be a very costly sub to have on our books.
So I agree with many of the things you say, just not with him starting every match for us and being the main guy up front.

 

[Pronewbie]

It's a pity he's leaving. That leaves us with Rashford and Martial as our CF. We need a Ronaldo alternative thread to discuss our options. Any idea when Greenwood's case will be cleared (guilty or otherwise)?

 

[Nicolarra90]

https://depor.com/futbol-internacio...anchester-united-mercado-de-fichajes-noticia/

He supposedly injected Botox to enlarge his genitals.

Is penisaldo actually true?

 

[Gandalf]

It's a pity he's leaving. That leaves us with Rashford and Martial as our CF. We need a Ronaldo alternative thread to discuss our options. Any idea when Greenwood's case will be cleared (guilty or otherwise)?

Fair to say that Greenwood won't ever play for us again so don't hold your breath but in answer to the question they extended the bail to continue their investigations so it is still a long way from a court date.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

https://depor.com/futbol-internacio...anchester-united-mercado-de-fichajes-noticia/

He supposedly injected Botox to enlarge his genitals.

Is penisaldo actually true?

Hm. So...injecting Botox...there...will blow up your junk in a flaccid state?

So, it's basically useless - one could say. Or - if you will - purely cosmetic. Like scoring a shitload of goals that don't really mean anything - but it looks good at first glance.

Why would Ronaldo be interested in that?

 

[clarkydaz]

Hm. So...injecting Botox...there...will blow up your junk in a flaccid state?

So, it's basically useless - one could say. Or - if you will - purely cosmetic. Like scoring a shitload of goals that don't really mean anything - but it looks good at first glance.

Why would Ronaldo be interested in that?

having picture took in his pants. Is this actually real or just a joke gone too far

 

[Andycoleno9]

Bayern is on

 

[Chesterlestreet]

having picture took in his pants. Is this actually real or just a joke gone too far

I hope it is - but I also hope it's not.

I'm experiencing a conflict in the very depth of my soul.

(Seriously, though - no, of course it's bollocks...or rather a load of cock (and bull)...and so forth.)

 

[Lennon]

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He supposedly injected Botox to enlarge his genitals.

Is penisaldo actually true?

It must have traumatized him forever...

 

[The Firestarter]

People read in those Kahn comments as "Bayern is still on"?

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I wonder how many summers of his career he’s been strongly rumoured to leave his club

Last 2 or 3 at United. Probably all of his last 5 for Madrid. Every one at Juventus. Now his first at United again..

EDIT: @Berbaclass just seen you’re the top poster here too! You really are the king!

 

[djembatheking]

It must have traumatized him forever...

Whose bulge is he looking at? Its a good job he didn`t play with Pallister.