I have no idea about the frame of mind of Ronaldo when it comes to the child that he lost but it happened in April and he was in the frame of mind to train for United and Portugal during the following months.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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If that was true then we could resign Dan James. The reason Ronaldo has value is because he can put the ball in the back of the net. No one else in our squad are natural finishers. My preference would have been to sign a decent striker. We don’t have the funds and there are a lack of options on the market. We have no choice but to make Ronaldo work in the starting 11 this season. The United fans getting giddy over Martial’s pre-season have very short memories.
Once his confidence is low he will be back to sulking and not putting the effort in.
Dan James scored 10 league goals as lone striker, is a pressing machine, constant threat in behind, brilliant at holding the ball up and bringing others into play? Umm…what? And Ronaldo clearly doesn’t have value to top tier teams. That’s why he’s still here.
Ronaldo is 37+ but I do feel like he will learn to play Ten Hag football to some degree.
Ten Hag’s footballing tactic is felt through the squad too much for him not to be involved - so maybe I’m hopeful but he should do better than last year and become a more a player through the central areas especially for his wingers.
Ten Hag’s footballing tactic is felt through the squad too much for him not to be involved - so maybe I’m hopeful but he should do better than last year and become a more a player through the central areas especially for his wingers.
you think you can't have ups and downs after that sort of tragedy... wow
and he’s obviously tensing his legs too. He just loves himself.The man rollded up his shorts just to take a picture.
This is quite strange logic. Clean slate for this season is fair but we’ve had Ronaldo actively trying to move versus Martial apparently just getting his head down. If Ronaldo fails in his move (hopefully he doesn’t and this saga dies for good when he moves) you’re basically saying the ‘clean slate’ will start from then? That’s not factoring in his age, inability to play our pressing system, the fact he leaves next summer regardless + has no sell on value versus Martial.
Well if he doesn’t move then yes, that’s my opinion. I don’t see Martial keeping this up, hope I am wrong obviously.
Martial was being touted around and we got zero interest. Sevilla got rid of him at the first opportunity... I wonder why
Of course you can but it's not my place or yours to make up what is mental health is.
Because Sevilla aren't a wealthy club and he struggled with injuries with them.
Then Ronaldo is basically pulling the same stunt as Martial by asking for a transfer before he even gave it a shot under a new manager. Main difference is Martial was actually able to find someone who wanted him.
And he's bang average these days.
And Martial wasn't playing and had little chance to get significant game time over Ronaldo, in a bit of strange way Martial is being criticized for wanting to play which is interesting because if he spent the next 6 months on the bench he would have been criticized for being happy to collect a check.
It shouldn't be forgotten how much disruption Ronaldo has brought for us this pre-season. If it wasn't for the complexity of signing a new striker and the shortage of bodies we have in attack, I think he'd be out the door already.
Ten Hag has had to come into a new job preparing for the season with one senior striker and deal with the stink in the media that's been caused by Ronaldo.
I don't even think there's much of an upside to keeping Ronaldo. Even at his best, he's never been anything close to a high energy, pressing player. That isn't about to change at 37. At this point in time he's just a body, and if that's the case I'd rather have one with a bit of motivation to actually be here.
Ten Hag has had to come into a new job preparing for the season with one senior striker and deal with the stink in the media that's been caused by Ronaldo.
I don't even think there's much of an upside to keeping Ronaldo. Even at his best, he's never been anything close to a high energy, pressing player. That isn't about to change at 37. At this point in time he's just a body, and if that's the case I'd rather have one with a bit of motivation to actually be here.
I get what you're saying but I have to disagree.
Yes, all clubs need the commercialisation side of the game to compete at the highest level but as a club we've mover way beyond that.
As I said earlier, I don't think the club has ever demanded that a manager plays a certain player but there are ways of taking a passive aggressive approach to add pressure for player selection.
I strongly disagree that we haven't bought players for commercial reasons, especially under Woodwards tenure.
Who have we signed for commercial reasons?
Fellaini.
Hahaha
Someone on the caf once suggested that Van De Beek was a commercial signing, the globally popular Van De Beek. I bet that someone will think Pogba, Di Maria, Ibrahimovic or anyone that was quite obviously a top level footballer that happens to also be known.
But he wasn’t causing a circus. No issues if a player wants to leave for whatever reason but do it respectfully, not like Ronaldo has done or all the noise Pogba used to create every year.
I completely understand making allowances if he’s amongst the best in the world (like we did for him when he wanted Real) but he’s not the same player anymore. We are treating him differently and it sets an awful precedent - this was one of my biggest criticisms of Ole, that he basically started his favourites regardless of form, albeit Ronaldo is a unique case given his status but I really hope the club is working overtime to shift him. Cant have that type of player in the club.
It is a controversial statement. You gotta remember you're in a place where people think a player that is looking to explore his options end of season is disgraceful and doesn't care about the team and has no love for United, while giving it his all on the pitch until the last minute the previous season. Meanwhile, everyone is cool with those that keep quiet during the summer and then spend an entire season giving up and looking like they do not care on the pitch.
Thing is can we find someone guaranteed to bang in the goals though when he leaves
I reckon we could find a player who scores less but makes us win more games as a team. I actually think Martial is good enough for top 4 push and I don’t really care if he wasn’t motivated before if he is now, this is a new manager and new project. However, completely get some people have given up on him so I’d say we want someone like Broja (who seems potentially for sale), Osimhem, cheeky bid for Lautoro even. All different players stylistically but all would offer more for the team as a unit.
Well, there are a lot of lies and false statements here. First thing first, Ronaldo doesn't love United. I know that's a difficult pill to swallow for his die-hard fans, but Ronaldo loves Ronaldo. Which is fine. But don't feed me the "he loves the club" shite. He doesn't. There's no special connection there. His best and most productive years were at another club. if anything, that's where his love lies.
And as for the bold, I can only assume you don't read much of this forum because those payers that you speak of got pelters all last season. People were certainly not "cool" about it.
Take it you aren't keen on this Sesko then
Not the same level as Lautaro or Oshimen, not even close.
Sesko would be a signing for the future, not for next season.
First of all, even Mbappe is a bit less than 20% better than Ronaldo. Also, he plays for the absolute dominator team in the French league where not pressing from the front is far more forgiving for a top team. Also, a team that is rotating through top managers who cannot even win the league every season like Bayern do, because....well, maybe because their superstar players are not pressing and working hard enough?
Anyway, you do you, I'm quite happy with how the team is playing now without Ronaldo. Hope he jets to Sporting.
I genuinely just don’t know anything about him. Not pretending I’ve watched a load of the Austrian BL.
I think people le here are creating more of a circus that Ronaldo. The only facts I see are that he wants to leave. I don't see much o a circus from him or even his usually painful agent. Nothing like the Pogba's drama queen bollox.
I agree about Ole though
the disruption I see is that Messrs Arnold and Murtough are basically Woodward in disguise. Ronaldo lost a newborn baby three months ago... but to some here that "disrupts" the club
Honestly to those people who are calling Ronaldo dickhead etc grow up. Its just embarrasing for you lot. I hope to god you don't have kids if you think thats alright behaviour.
Nothing to do with the very public appeal by him and his agent to offer him to any team that will have him. Or him not turning up for training or the pre-season tour.
I don't actually really care anymore because I'm entirely fine with him leaving. I felt he was a detriment to the team last season and nothing has changed in that regard this season.
We'll be far more productive replacing him with a team player who actually wants to be here.
I wonder would our top four rivals prefer to see us keep Ronaldo or sell him while only bringing in a young striker who would be back-up to Martial? Which version of United would they see as more of a threat?
I have come to that conclusion that we need to keep him. If not we need someone brought in that can guarantee goals. I think most oppo fans would love to see us lose him with no replacement in.
I think oppo fans have a niggling concern that in Eriksen we finally have someone capable of giving Ronaldo top drawer delivery IF he actually stays
Ronaldo is a proven goal scorer, more so than anyone else in the squad. So you bet our rivals would want him gone, 37 or not he'll get plenty of goals if we continue to play the same way we've seen pre-season.
My Arsenal and Chelsea mates would love us to keep and start him. Last season they told me if we keep starting Ronaldo we should very well kiss goodbye to top 4. They told me the same this season. Don't know about Liverpool or City but imo they simply don't care.
But we won't continue to play the same way as preseason with him in the team. It's called a team sport for a reason; all 11 players matter and make a difference to the overall play
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