Bosws87
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I couldn't play the console version, some people enjoying a game running at 19fps its madness
Well then these "people" must surely be the most disappointed.Right there with you honestly. I'm getting a ton of enjoyment from it. There's getting excited, then there's expecting The Best Graphics Ever along with The Best Writing Ever along with The Best Setting Ever along with The Best Gameplay Ever. It seems like some were hoping for/expecting a GTA and Deus Ex mashup that outstrips every entry in those franchises at all the things those franchises are best at.
Yup.I think what bothers me the most, and this is far from exclusive to CDPR, is that more and more consumers are being treated as beta testers for games released too soon. You only ever get one first play through of a game, and when you’ve waited years and have paid top dollar for a AAA game I think people deserve a better experience. You can play again months later but it’s not the same.
Its in a genuinely shit state on base consoles, so i agree. Just wondering whats acceptable at this point for a base ps4?Don’t shill for them.
They could have easily not released it on these consoles. But they saw the 100m plus PS4 user base and decided to release it on that. So they should release it in acceptable state for these consoles.
And no idea what you mean by modern game. Game doesn’t do anything new that’s not been done before. The AI certainly doesn’t look modern.
It's a silly argument anyway: the box says PS4 so it should run well on the PS4, regardless of anything else.Silly argument when games like Spider-Man look and play excellently on a base PS4.
No tag and incorrect use of your.Its in a genuinely shit state on base consoles, so i agree. Just wondering whats acceptable at this point for a base ps4?
I think the vertacility is a huge issue and the deal breaker vs a red dead or gta. I dont know if the game does it but it should probably be heavily prioritising ground floor. Assets 2 foors above you being slow or not loading in isn't going to be as obvious (unless your redlambs). I think you can forget about driving not being a huge issue for it, that just looks beyond what either of them can deal with. But dragging most of the game up to 30fps seems achievable.
Act 2 seems really strong story wise but i feel like i should do some more side jobs and maybe wander about and explore. Just got a sniper rifle so doing a redlambs sounds fun.
I think what bothers me the most, and this is far from exclusive to CDPR, is that more and more consumers are being treated as beta testers for games released too soon. You only ever get one first play through of a game, and when you’ve waited years and have paid top dollar for a AAA game I think people deserve a better experience. You can play again months later but it’s not the same.
I couldn't play the console version, some people enjoying a game running at 19fps its madness
There’s the crowd of “I find no issues, I love it” and the negative crowd. It happens with a lot of games. The truth is that both can be true but we also have to look at why they didn’t allow reviews for console versions and why they have to drop 18gb updates. Surely that’s because there’s obvious problems with the game and no amount of “people are just complaining because they have too high expectations” will make it less true.
There’s still time for them to sort the game out. Hopefully it won’t be like mafia 3 when they sorted the game way after the player base moved on
@Walrus @Bebe I'm not having a pop at you guys, I'm making a point, so let's get that clear before I post the next questionIt's a silly argument anyway: the box says PS4 so it should run well on the PS4, regardless of anything else.
Yeah agree with this big time. So many games need extra time and testing. Their reasoning will be money related, obviously, yet these companies releasing the big games are making insane money. I’m sure they could spend another year on it and not feel it that muchI think what bothers me the most, and this is far from exclusive to CDPR, is that more and more consumers are being treated as beta testers for games released too soon. You only ever get one first play through of a game, and when you’ve waited years and have paid top dollar for a AAA game I think people deserve a better experience. You can play again months later but it’s not the same.
I wasn't having a pop and can be pretty lazy or just wrong on you're. I thought it was funny and clever idea, figured you'd see it regardless of the tag.No tag and incorrect use of your.
(I'm enjoying running around rooftops, you can find some fun spots to mess around with mate!)
Yep.Yeah agree with this big time. So many games need extra time and testing. Their reasoning will be money related, obviously, yet these companies releasing the big games are making insane money. I’m sure they could spend another year on it and not feel it that much
I know, and I did mate. I was messing around!I wasn't having a pop and can be pretty lazy or just wrong on you're. I thought it was funny and clever idea, figured you'd see it regardless of the tag.
Get it to stable 30 FPS would be a start. Fix the crashing issues for people and make driving playable. I don’t expect to see major changes to the graphics or even crowd/car density on the old consoles.Its in a genuinely shit state on base consoles, so i agree. Just wondering whats acceptable at this point for a base ps4?
I think the vertacility is a huge issue and the deal breaker vs a red dead or gta. I dont know if the game does it but it should probably be heavily prioritising ground floor. Assets 2 foors above you being slow or not loading in isn't going to be as obvious (unless your redlambs). I think you can forget about driving not being a huge issue for it, that just looks beyond what either of them can deal with. But dragging most of the game up to 30fps seems achievable.
Act 2 seems really strong story wise but i feel like i should do some more side jobs and maybe wander about and explore. Just got a sniper rifle so doing a redlambs sounds fun.
This is probably you...
You've got a point. It's damning when you look at games like GTA V and RDR2 with their police AI that actively look for criminals, patrol the streets, ask if you know anything about a nearby crime etc, before seeing how far we've come with this incredible next gen presentation of magically popping-in cops who seem to come from the mirror verse.I'm enjoying it, apparently loads of people bought a modern game on 7 year old technology and are surprised it doesn't run well *shrug*
Honestly I haven't been active on this forum for years and cba to go through the thread. @Alock1 had made a post about how the game lacks GTA style minigames for bowling alleys and the like, that's probably where my GTA comment came from. I find some of the "meh, underwhelming, boring" type reactions hard to understand personally as I find that the game is genuinely a lot of fun, when its working.@Walrus @Bebe I'm not having a pop at you guys, I'm making a point, so let's get that clear before I post the next question
Have any of the above ever said any of the things you are talking about? That's they were hyped up and expected "Deus Ex mixed with GTA only much better" and all that? In fact, have I?
Or can you find other examples on here of what you are talking about? I'm interesting to see who "they" really are.
But that's not because of hype that's because of the expectation set by a game with this budget, this marketing, the previous game by the same dev, and being constantly told how immersive, engaging and interactive it is. It's also an expectation of an open world game that is looking to be so ambitious as this one.Honestly I haven't been active on this forum for years and cba to go through the thread. @Alock1 had made a post about how the game lacks GTA style minigames for bowling alleys and the like, that's probably where my GTA comment came from. I find some of the "meh, underwhelming, boring" type reactions hard to understand personally as I find that the game is genuinely a lot of fun, when its working.
To be clear, I've no issue with the complaints regarding performance. Most of what you quoted there about gamers paying to be beta testers etc I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd want a refund if I'd bought the game for ps4/xbone. It's shambolic and I don't think CDPR deserve a free pass on selling a broken product.
Apologies if it seemed like I was singling you out mate, I don't disagree with any of what you called out and I think you're correct. NPCs walking around seem to basically only do that, walk around. Other open world games have done more in that regard. Personally, I don't care much about these issues. They take it down from "best game ever" type consideration for me, but that's about it. I'm getting a lot of enjoyment from the setting (Night City is much more visually interesting than what I've seen from a GTA or WatchDogs, and far more vertical) and the different ways to approach combat/missions the game allows for. Add in a story that's been strong so far for me (I've only just finished the Heist mission, so its early days admittedly) and I'm pretty set.But that's not because of hype that's because of the expectation set by a game with this budget, this marketing, the previous game by the same dev, and being constantly told how immersive, engaging and interactive it is. It's also an expectation of an open world game that is looking to be so ambitious as this one.
I also posted how the NPRs walk from a to b and have no life, that their interactions tire almost immediately and that the police AI is horrendous (spawn and multiply, but be thwarted by driving round the corner)
Games that are much older but equally ambitious and varied have done a number of things a lot better and I called it out.
Yeah, people are equally allowed to like it. What got me was the whole laughing at people who have issues with it, then carrying on about "they".Honestly I haven't been active on this forum for years and cba to go through the thread. @Alock1 had made a post about how the game lacks GTA style minigames for bowling alleys and the like, that's probably where my GTA comment came from. I find some of the "meh, underwhelming, boring" type reactions hard to understand personally as I find that the game is genuinely a lot of fun, when its working.
To be clear, I've no issue with the complaints regarding performance. Most of what you quoted there about gamers paying to be beta testers etc I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd want a refund if I'd bought the game for ps4/xbone. It's shambolic and I don't think CDPR deserve a free pass on selling a broken product.
Absolutely. There's not a single aspect of this game that hasn't been done before and better. That's the issue here, that whilst it sets out to be all things to all men, it's that failure that's on them not on us as the gamers.But that's not because of hype that's because of the expectation set by a game with this budget, this marketing, the previous game by the same dev, and being constantly told how immersive, engaging and interactive it is. It's also an expectation of an open world game that is looking to be so ambitious as this one.
I also posted how the NPRs walk from a to b and have no life, that their interactions tire almost immediately and that the police AI is horrendous (spawn and multiply, but be thwarted by driving round the corner)
Games that are much older but equally ambitious and varied have done a number of things a lot better and I called it out.
They probably are mate.Are the graphics slightly better with this XSX update or am I imagining it?
At least credit the guy in this thread who gave you the ideaRight.
I've decided to do this
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/fr...google-stadia-3593595?page=42#thread-comments
Sign up for Stadia Pro trial
Buy Cyberpunk £49.99 - £10.00 = £39.99
Get Cyberpunk on Stadia which seems to be the 2nd best way to get it at the moment... and also a Stadia Premier Edition... which is currently going on ebay for £50 but will probably go down to like £25 but who cares. Sell Stadia, playing Cyberpunk for like £15.
Talk me out of it or I'm doing it.
It’s nothing major if so, but does seem a bit better. Hard to tell because in some places, with the right lighting, it looked alright before. In some it looked awful.They probably are mate.
No idea who that is. I found it organically.At least credit the guy in this thread who gave you the idea
I've been looking at this last few hours too. More just because it's a cheap way to get Stadia Premiere. I hope xCloud ends up working on the Chromecast Ultra at some point with it being Android.
Good luck. They are massively struggling and Google WILL pull out at some point. You also will always get input lag, that's not even in question, but you also will not be getting close to the performance stats they claim to put out. Much like when you enable the netflix shite on the top corner.Right.
I've decided to do this
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/fr...google-stadia-3593595?page=42#thread-comments
Sign up for Stadia Pro trial
Buy Cyberpunk £49.99 - £10.00 = £39.99
Get Cyberpunk on Stadia which seems to be the 2nd best way to get it at the moment... and also a Stadia Premier Edition.
Talk me out of it or I'm doing it.
Surely if/when they pull out they'll give refunds.Good luck. They are massively struggling and Google WILL pull out at some point. You also will always get input lag, that's not even in question, but you also will not be getting close to the performance stats they claim to put out. Much like when you enable the netflix shite on the top corner.
Great idea - trash execution that they will definitely dump.
Surely if/when they pull out they'll give refunds.
They have made some pretty big decisions in the marketing space built around future proofing Chrome and it's products, and they called out Stadia's potential and importance to their strategy a lot during that process.Good luck. They are massively struggling and Google WILL pull out at some point. You also will always get input lag, that's not even in question, but you also will not be getting close to the performance stats they claim to put out. Much like when you enable the netflix shite on the top corner.
Great idea - trash execution that they will definitely dump.
Refunds for what?Surely if/when they pull out they'll give refunds.
Refunds for what?
Deadly serious. I fully expect Google to give up on Stadia (give their track record of giving up on everything else)
Oh wait...
you are serious?...
They won’t give refunds to purchases. That money has gone to the publisher of those games. If they close it down then you will lose all your purchases. But they won’t close it down within a minute. They will give the usual 6 to 12 months time limit.Deadly serious. I fully expect Google to give up on Stadia (give their track record of giving up on everything else)
But for purchases, I would expect them to give refunds. Not for subscriptions, but purchases.
Probably longer to be honest. They would just leave the servers up to facilitate continued access but stop subscriptions, adding content etc. For Google Cloud to have some continued servers on the back burner for stadia purchases for 3 years wouldn't be an issue for them in the slightest.They won’t give refunds to purchases. That money has gone to the publisher of those games. If they close it down then you will lose all your purchases. But they won’t close it down within a minute. They will give the usual 6 to 12 months time limit.
Journalists attack? Most of them gave it a 9.Cyberpunk 2077 Review Bombed, CDPR Execs Take Blame! Journalists Attack & Gamers Upset With Launch!
And that review was bang on tooJournalists attack? Most of them gave it a 9.
Unless the title means Journalists are attacked, then that’s true because one was for giving it a 7 and was ridiculed.