Dani Carvajal

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So Madrid announce the signing of Danilo, and i for one think we should avoid Clynne like the plague.
We need a good dependable right back.
Carvajal in my opinion is a fantastic player that slips under the rader. We should be all over this guy...
Also he is another Spaniard which would hopefully sway big dave to stay.

Thoughts?
 
If he's in any way available then yes. He's very good. Don't know why they wanted Danilo!
 
I'm pretty sure they'll keep him as they want to have Spanish national team players in their squad and he might even beat off the competition from Danilo and remain first choice for years to come
 
SiRed said:
So Madrid announce the signing of Danilo, and i for one think we should avoid Clynne like the plague.
We need a good dependable right back.
Carvajal in my opinion is a fantastic player that slips under the rader. We should be all over this guy...
Also he is another Spaniard which would hopefully sway big dave to stay.

Thoughts?
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We can't avoid buying British talent. Not with Dyke's proposals looming on us
 
Has a 4 year contract still and I doubt Real are willing to sell.

Danilo is there to replace Arbeloa, who has been the weak link whenever he played.

I'd love him here but I'm sure they're not letting him go.
 
NL Max said:
Has a 4 year contract still and I doubt Real are willing to sell.

Danilo is there to replace Arbeloa, who has been the weak link whenever he played.

I'd love him here but I'm sure they're not letting him go.
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31.5 million euros for a backup RB. I doubt if even Real are that stupid to think of that.
 
NK86 said:
31.5 million euros for a backup RB. I doubt if even Real are that stupid to think of that.
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They paid 25m for Coentrao when they had Marcelo already. I think you underestimate Real Madrid.
 
NL Max said:
They paid 25m for Coentrao when they had Marcelo already. I think you underestimate Real Madrid.
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Pretty good point. But they did not have FFP to contend with that time, while this time they will have that regulation hanging around their head. So unless they offload a Bale, they won't be able to make a big galactico signing, which they will once they lose in the CL and the La Liga. Plus, they would be targeting De Gea so that also would require them to pay a hefty amount, seeing that they just spent a fortune on a RB (who was not required) in the last year of his contract.
 
NK86 said:
Pretty good point. But they did not have FFP to contend with that time, while this time they will have that regulation hanging around their head. So unless they offload a Bale, they won't be able to make a big galactico signing, which they will once they lose in the CL and the La Liga. Plus, they would be targeting De Gea so that also would require them to pay a hefty amount, seeing that they just spent a fortune on a RB (who was not required) in the last year of his contract.
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Real Madrid will have no issue whatsoever complying with FFP if they go and spend a billion on players tomorrow.
 
NK86 said:
31.5 million euros for a backup RB. I doubt if even Real are that stupid to think of that.
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Carvajal is class and has incredible beard on him.
 
NK86 said:
Pretty good point. But they did not have FFP to contend with that time, while this time they will have that regulation hanging around their head. So unless they offload a Bale, they won't be able to make a big galactico signing, which they will once they lose in the CL and the La Liga. Plus, they would be targeting De Gea so that also would require them to pay a hefty amount, seeing that they just spent a fortune on a RB (who was not required) in the last year of his contract.
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Aren't they one of the few clubs who don't have FFP worries? I don't know for sure.

They will sell a player to buy a new toy, like always. Doubt it's Bale since it's their record signing, but I really don't care about them. Not sure if we're going to sell de Gea either, but that's another discussion.

Arbeloa is too old, he needed replacing. They've now done so, so I doubt they'd sell Carvajal to have the same problem.
 
Sarni said:
Real Madrid will have no issue whatsoever complying with FFP if they go and spend a billion on players tomorrow.
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From what I remember,they had issues with FFP last season itself.
 
If the biggest money machine in world football have FFP problems after spending €31m, then we are in trouble.
 
NK86 said:
From what I remember,they had issues with FFP last season itself.
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They almost made a profit on transfers last season so I very much doubt it.
 
Yup he's a fantastic player but for some reason good players some times want to stay on the bench at Madrid.
 
I hope Pep gives him a call soon. We need a young rightback. I would love it if we had Bernat and Carvajal as our fullback pair for the next decade.
 
Sarni said:
They almost made a profit on transfers last season so I very much doubt it.
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That's because they offloaded Di Maria for a bucket load. And didn't have too many big transfers barring the James one. So unless they are planning to offload a big gun, spending 31.5 million on a RB seems too expensive, as they surely would want to go for a big name signing as well.
 
NK86 said:
That's because they offloaded Di Maria for a bucket load. And didn't have too many big transfers barring the James one. So unless they are planning to offload a big gun, spending 31.5 million on a RB seems too expensive, as they surely would want to go for a big name signing as well.
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Again, it's Real Madrid. They will have no issue whatsoever because of spedning €31.5m on a defender on a 6-year contract (ammortized as €5m per year). If Real Madrid have problems because of €5m per year then FFP is ridiculously fecking stupid.
 
Real still have a higher revenue than United. They probably could match United's spending if they wanted to. The fact that they robbed Arsenal and United in the past 2 years with the Özil and Di Maria transfers makes it even easier for them. And if they wanted to, they could do it again by selling Bale.
 
Balu said:
Real still have a higher revenue than United. They probably could match United's spending if they wanted to. The fact that they robbed Arsenal and United in the past 2 years with the Özil and Di Maria transfers makes it even easier for them. And if they wanted to, they could do it again by selling Bale.
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Yes, I think they will have to offload a big name player. That's what I was getting to as well.
 
NK86 said:
Yes, I think they will have to offload a big name player. That's what I was getting to as well.
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They don't have to. They don't need to spend the maximum possible each summer just for the sake of it, so if the opportunity of making money arises, why not take it? The fact that Real's netspend over the last 2 seasons is 'only' around 70m Euro doesn't mean that they couldn't have easily spent a lot more within the FFP rules. Of course they could. It's the same at Bayern. We have a netspend of around 20m Euro over the last 2 season. We could match United's spending if we wanted to, or at least get very close to it. But why do it if it's not necessary? If the right players to improve the team aren't available?
 
Balu said:
They don't have to. They don't need to spend the maximum possible each summer just for the sake of it, so if the opportunity of making money arises, why not take it? The fact that Real's netspend over the last 2 seasons is 'only' around 70m Euro doesn't mean that they couldn't have easily spent a lot more within the FFP rules. Of course they could. It's the same at Bayern. We have a netspend of around 20m Euro over the last 2 season. We could match United's spending if we wanted to, or at least get very close to it. But why do it if it's not necessary? If the right players to improve the team aren't available?
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Are we talking about the same club here, Real Madrid? They make changes for the sake of it. There was no need for James over Di Maria, yet they did go ahead and do it.
 
NK86 said:
Are we talking about the same club here, Real Madrid? They make changes for the sake of it. There was no need for James over Di Maria, yet they did go ahead and do it.
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The point was that they didn't have to sell Di Maria to comply with the FFP rules after buying James. They did it because it was nice to cash in, not because they would get into trouble without doing it.
 
Balu said:
I hope Pep gives him a call soon. We need a young rightback. I would love it if we had Bernat and Carvajal as our fullback pair for the next decade.
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That would be brilliant. I'm a big fan of Carvajal!
 
NK86 said:
Are we talking about the same club here, Real Madrid? They make changes for the sake of it. There was no need for James over Di Maria, yet they did go ahead and do it.
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Di Maria wanted higher wages, the club didn't want this as he wasn't a galactico. James was going to sell way more shirts than a new-contract Di Maria.

Of course they will offload a player to buy a new one like they always do, that's nothing new. But don't they have lots players who cost them a ton who never play? Illaramendi comes to mind. Khedira, Coantrao, Arbeloa seem to be off too.

I guess their new toy this season will be Pogba. Don't think they'd need to sell someone to afford him, maybe Modric?

Unless we pay 50m for Carvajal I think we'll hear a polite 'feck off' from them. Since he has such a long contract they're in a strong position.
 
Carvajal is immense. And rarely with Foreign players, I have watched him a lot too. Would be my #1 right back in the World.
 
NL Max said:
Di Maria wanted higher wages, the club didn't want this as he wasn't a galactico. James was going to sell way more shirts than a new-contract Di Maria.

Of course they will offload a player to buy a new one like they always do, that's nothing new. But don't they have lots players who cost them a ton who never play? Illaramendi comes to mind. Khedira, Coantrao, Arbeloa seem to be off too.

I guess their new toy this season will be Pogba. Don't think they'd need to sell someone to afford him, maybe Modric?

Unless we pay 50m for Carvajal I think we'll hear a polite 'feck off' from them. Since he has such a long contract they're in a strong position.
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Khedira is out of contract. Doubt Coentrao or Arbeloa would fetch good sums. Pogba could easily cost them 60-70 million. So they would need to sell someone I feel. I am saying all this in the hope that this means they don't go after DDG this summer and we are able to get DDG to sign a new contract.
 
Balu said:
The point was that they didn't have to sell Di Maria to comply with the FFP rules after buying James. They did it because it was nice to cash in, not because they would get into trouble without doing it.
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I am not too aware about Madrid's finances. But I thought they could not go for Falcao because of FFP. I could be wrong.
 
NK86 said:
Khedira is out of contract. Doubt Coentrao or Arbeloa would fetch good sums. Pogba could easily cost them 60-70 million. So they would need to sell someone I feel. I am saying all this in the hope that this means they don't go after DDG this summer and we are able to get DDG to sign a new contract.
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That's wages of 3 players plus a couple of million. I think they can afford Pogba with that, especially if they sell Illaramendi aswell. They have more revenue than us do they not? If not they'll sell one of their first team, not sure who that would be. Don't think it would be Bale unless some club pays the same or more than they did for him, and the only club who could afford that is us or Bayern. Bayern won't buy him and I don't think we will either. Other clubs have FFP and won't only buy Bale (it would be stupid to do imho, that'd be their whole budget).

I'd rather run down de Gea's contract than sell him. Don't think he's leaving anyways, it's been all speculation so far.
 
Why would Real sell Carvajal when he is better than Danilo? I think they will keep both. Let´s see how Danilo adapts to a much harder league, a more demanding football and considerably more pressure at Madrid.
 
Danilo is surely Arbeloa's replacement. Whichever is playing the least between Danilo and Carvajal will probably grow restless within a few years and move on, but not this summer.
 
Balu said:
The point was that they didn't have to sell Di Maria to comply with the FFP rules after buying James. They did it because it was nice to cash in, not because they would get into trouble without doing it.
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Yeah, that's my understanding as well. I think they were also sick of AdM's wage negotiation tactics.

Madrid's finances (income) is the highest in the world, so i doubt signing James threw them in FFP territory.

It was a strategic decision. Barca signed a marquee....Madrid signed a marquee.

They're already struggling fit everyone in when fit....so having AdM there as well was overkill.
 
NK86 said:
I am not too aware about Madrid's finances. But I thought they could not go for Falcao because of FFP. I could be wrong.
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They took a more sensible approach and stopped wasting money by selling off top players on the cheap. But they didn't have to do that to comply with FFP. They always let players go when new superstars arrived, that's not really something new and it makes sense. It's impossible to keep all of them happy and it can easily hurt the team chemistry, so someone has to go. Maybe the necessary investment in the upcoming rebuilding of their stadium played a role as well, but those costs wouldn't even matter regarding FFP (investments in infrastructure are excluded). Whatever the reasons were for Real to sell Di Maria (and making a lot of money certainly was one of them), FFP wasn't a problem for them at all, just like it isn't a problem for United despite spending like crazy in the past 2 years.
 
devilish said:
Are we? Even with the new rules?
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Good point, the new rules wouldnt come into play for a few years tho.
Slightly off topic, does anybody no how the new home grown proposal would effect our current squad?

saw a thread which contained info on the effects on Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, and city but nothing on us???
 
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