MUFCgal
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We won't win the league.
We were closer that time than you are now. We finished 6 points behind at the end. We drew our last 5 premier league games whereas United lost 2 and drew 1 game. So, it was only a 4 point gap with 5 games to go.this thread reminds me of that Michael Essien's "we can still win the league" rant in 07'
It is mad saying Chelsea arent the best team in this league because we are if we win the game in hand 10 points clear of everyone. Thats not the kind of 2 point gap that one bad or good decision might make. You cant be 10 points clear and not be the best team, and you also cant pick and choose portions of the season in which to judge it upon.I wouldn't say it's 'mad' in the slightest. An unpopular opinion? Maybe. But I think mad is a bit unfair.
If you consider the Arsenal's last 19 games, we've accumulated 8 more points than Chelsea in that time (albeit with 1 game more played - so the equivalent of 5 if you win your game in hand). This also greatly coincides with the return from injury of key players to our team like Ozil, Koscielny and Ramsey. Not to mention we had Monreal playing centre back for multiple games as well as not having our first choice RB available hardly ever throughout the season. With all players fit and firing, I think Arsenal are more impressive and the better team. Arsenal have just less than four times as much injuries combined as Chelsea this season and we've coped remarkably. We have depth that you don't have in the attack. We have a better attack this season (the only player from your attacking department I'd take right now for our first team is Hazard).
I will say though, that I would always fancy Chelsea to beat Arsenal in a head-to-head match. It doesn't mean you are the better team though - we have a manager committed to playing expansive football 'the right way' as he sees it, which obviously is a complete contrast to your manager and therefore we often lose the tactical battle. If you know Arséne, he'd never want to change his style because of this and if you listen to any of an abundance of interviews you'll hear him explain why he sticks rigidly to his method of expansive attacking football.
Anyway, I'd accept you calling the opinion 'mad' if Chelsea were really good but they aren't. Just (in your eyes) the best of a bad bunch.. and any proper team in the Champions League would comfortably beat you guys this season.
Overall I think they've been the better team but during the past couple of months they've been far off it. I can't say I agree that they're not the best in the league but the best teams in the league don't always necessarily win it. (United 2013)It is mad saying Chelsea arent the best team in this league because we are if we win the game in hand 10 points clear of everyone. Thats not the kind of 2 point gap that one bad or good decision might make. You cant be 10 points clear and not be the best team, and you also cant pick and choose portions of the season in which to judge it upon.
Of course, over any given period one might be better and theres no denying Arsenal and United have both been better than us in the past 3 months, but thats not what makes the best team at all.Overall I think they've been the better team but during the past couple of months they've been far off it. I can't say I agree that they're not the best in the league but the best teams in the league don't always necessarily win it. (United 2013)
All hypothetical though, we've had more injuries in recent times. Like I say you might have a point if we were 2 or 3 points ahead.@ItsEssexRob you established that lead at a time when we were missing many key players and I think that results since we've got them back are more representative of the true abilities of the teams.
We are definitely capable of winning every game. Chelsea still have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and Ourselves....We'd probably have to win every game as well as see a huge Chelsea implosion. I can't see either of those happening at all, so no chance is the answer to the OP. It would be hilarious though to see the entire footballing world go into fecking meltdown! 2nd is a very real possibility however.
I think it was 8 points.Even tough its highly unlikely that we have any chance to win the league.
I'd stil like to remind you guys of last time City won the cup and we just blew a what was it? 11 point? lead in 4 weeks.
This thread is for unrealistic slightly mad dreamers. No point trying to rationalise here IMHO. When I was in the newbs, Arsenal were having a terrible season - think it was that season when we beat Bayern 0-2 at their stadium. Someone "predicted" that Arsenal just need a great run to finish top four. True enough, we went on a sensational run that started with beating Tottenham 5-2 and ended the season with a series of 1-0 wins. And finished fourth IIRC. In that case that dream was plausible. In this case, it isn't.All hypothetical though, we've had more injuries in recent times. Like I say you might have a point if we were 2 or 3 points ahead.
Even more than City clawing back 8 points with 6 games to go and then winning it by scoring a 93rd minute goal?If we won the league it would be the most surprising thing i've seen in the Premier League, Put it that way.
I think so, Yes. And that is seriously saying something.Even more than City clawing back 8 points with 6 games to go and then winning it by scoring a 93rd minute goal?
Why not? 7 of our Premiership wins have been with 83 or fewer points. Of course it is unlikely that Chelsea will get fewer than 84 - but if they do ...The maximum amount of points we can finish on is 83
We're not winning the league with 83 points.
Unfortunately have to agree with this, and if by stretch Chelsea are guaranteed champions I can see both Arsenal and United playing for a draw in the fixture against each other, too much to lose.Even if Chelsea did implode, I think Arsenal would win it rather than us. They're in great form and have relatively nice fixtures.
Oh we're capable alright, I just can't see it happening. Maybe we'll go unbeaten, but I don't we'll win them all. Think we'll drop points to Chelsea and Arsenal for a start.We are definitely capable of winning every game. Chelsea still have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and Ourselves....
Dare to dream
That's the penultimate game right? It's quite probable that we'll both be safe by then?Unfortunately have to agree with this, and if by stretch Chelsea are guaranteed champions I can see both Arsenal and United playing for a draw in the fixture against each other, too much to lose.
Astonishing that, in both the Stoke and QPR games, Chelsea won as a result of a keeper screwing up a simple pass out. I'm starting to think that it's just their turn.First is over due to Chelseas winners against Stoke and especially against QPR today. Had they drawn both matches, that would be 4 dropped points with United and Arsenal back to back.
Jose doesnt really lose against top four / five teams and will be happy with draws in both tbh. If I were him, I would be too.