David De Gea Appreciation Thread

Andycoleno9 said:
And he was willing to sign new one. We even offered him new one but we changed our mind in last second.
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So then it's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be, because we'd be stuck with the most expensive keeper in the world for another 4-5 years.

Letting DDG leave was not a mistake. Signing Onana was.
 
Come on guys. DDG was making the same type of errors as Onana was.
 
Surely the wrong guy to be pining for if we want a keeper who doesn't throw European games? De Gea was a trailblazer for us in this regard.
 
Cassidy said:
Come on guys. DDG was making the same type of errors as Onana was.
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He was, just incredible that Onana had already made 50% of the errors De Gea made over a decade in just two years.

Time was probably up for David, but this clown, who we could have got on a free a season before btw, was not the answer.

Ten Hag did not have an eye for talent.

At this point, I'd question if he even had eyes.
 
Cassidy said:
Come on guys. DDG was making the same type of errors as Onana was.
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The worst part about Onana being poor is having to see this De Gea revisionism.

Top tier for about 70-80% of his time here but those last 2 seasons were suicide
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
The more interesting question is do you think Amorim would have kept De Gea if he was in the situation 2 years ago.
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Amorim is not type of manager who thinks that you need Luka Modric on goal. He wants from gks to do their primary job right; save shots. So yes, he would have kept De Gea until he finds better shot stopper.
 
Cassidy said:
Come on guys. DDG was making the same type of errors as Onana was.
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That is repeated over and over again but it is not true at all. He had some mistakes and some poor reactions of course but every gk does mistake then and there.
 
Cassidy said:
Come on guys. DDG was making the same type of errors as Onana was.
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In the end he was passing from a bad patch which made it very difficult to justify his enormous salary. However it wasn't this bad either. We've bought a GK whose main asset was that he was comfortable with his feet. It's really time we stop allowing the manager's ideology rule over common sense
 
Always makes me laugh when this thread rears its head. De Gea was regularly chucking balls into his own net for 2 or 3 years before we finally made the correct decision to part ways.

Some people are far too sentimental to judge him objectively.
 
Both these things can be true.

De Gea had been shit for 2 years before he left.
Onana isn't good enough.

Onana being shit doesn't mean we should have kept De Gea.
 
We only ever regret letting a player leave because we almost always replace them with someone worse. Would we be better off if we had De Gea instead of Onana? Probably. But it's not like De Gea is one of the best keepers out there. Would we be better with McTominay up front instead of Hoilund? Absolutely. Would we have been better off keeping Smalling and Evans instead of signing some of the other shite defenders we've had in recent years? Of course. But we weren't ever going to win the league by keeping any of them.
For whatever reason we just keep bringing in terrible replacements, but that doesn't mean the initial decision to sell/release them was wrong.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
That is repeated over and over again but it is not true at all. He had some mistakes and some poor reactions of course but every gk does mistake then and there.
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It is true actually. His last 2 seasons had a lot of similar mistakes to Onana. Im not talking about his time before when he was obviously very good
 
devilish said:
In the end he was passing from a bad patch which made it very difficult to justify his enormous salary. However it wasn't this bad either. We've bought a GK whose main asset was that he was comfortable with his feet. It's really time we stop allowing the manager's ideology rule over common sense
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He isn’t even that good with his feet either. I think being in the UCL final influenced the decision
 
Oh god not more De Gea revisionism . Onana being sh*te doesn't take away from the fact De Gea was clearly in decline in his last season with us and was time for him to move on
 
Why do people act like there are only two possible options for United in the goalkeeper position, Onana or DDG?

Let's have it right, DDG was absolutely appalling from about 2019 onwards. Dreadful. His bloopers reel would rival anything Onana has produced at United. His handling was shocking, he was rooted to his line, his kicking was a disgrace and the most damning thing is that his bottle appeared to have gone - the man was frightened of his own shadow. We conceded several goals because he was scared of colliding with an opponent or the goalposts.

Onana is also clearly not good enough, so let's sign another goalkeeper. Let's not keep talking about another goalkeeper who was also appalling (from 2019)
 
Pretty sure everyone is saying the same here. De Gea was making too many mistakes and had to leave. Onana has been even worse than De Gea. End of story, it's not complicated.
 
Cassidy said:
He isn’t even that good with his feet either. I think being in the UCL final influenced the decision
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That's because a ball playing GK makes zero sense at United. Ball playing GKs are useful when the defense consist of fast CBs capable of playing in a high line. In such scenario the GK can shift from GK to a sort of sweeper thus adding an extra man in defense which in turn allow an extra man (CB) in midfield thus overloading the midfield. United can't play that system because we only have 1 (or 2 if we add Heaven) quick CB. Hence our CBs stay deep (else they risk being overrun) which makes the sweeper GK redundant.

United's obsession to allow the manager to dictate our transfer market is one of the main reasons why we're in this mess. The manager's main concern is losing the dressing room thus they love to surround themselves with loyal people who would go into a brick wall for them. Issues such as sustainability and balance are often given a lower priority. ETH took things to a whole new level with all those former Eredivisie players. I said it many times, if I was SJR I would investigate each and every transfer and see were the money went
 
I felt the same way about De Gea in his last couple of years as I do Onana now. Just waiting for the next feck up. It's pathetic to see people rewriting history and longing for a bloke who was rightfully moved on.
 
Judas said:
I felt the same way about De Gea in his last couple of years as I do Onana now. Just waiting for the next feck up. It's pathetic to see people rewriting history and longing for a bloke who was rightfully moved on.
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we have two players that are panicking their teammates. One is Hojlund who gets snubbed by the forwards on a regular basis. The other is Onana who is scaring the shit out of our defenders. Once a player in that position loses his team mates trust then the only thing to do is to let them go. We've seen that happening before with Barthez, Carroll, Howard, Taibi and Foster.
 
devilish said:
we have two players that are panicking their teammates. One is Hojlund who gets snubbed by the forwards on a regular basis. The other is Onana who is scaring the shit out of our defenders. Once a player in that position loses his team mates trust then the only thing to do is to let them go. We've seen that happening before with Barthez, Carroll, Howard, Taibi and Foster.
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Yeah its painfully obvious unfortunately. That Maguire clearance last night was a prime example, there's very little trust there.
 
Judas said:
Yeah its painfully obvious unfortunately. That Maguire clearance last night was a prime example, there's very little trust there.
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we had a similar situation with way better defenders (ie during Barthez and Howard) then we do now. Defenders are taught from a young age to defend the threat that lie in front of them They are nowhere near equipped to also tackle the threat at their back. That makes defenders nervous which lead to more mistakes and defenders ignoring tactics and focus on covering their arse. Once the GK had lost the trust of his defense then he's finished.
 
It was time for De Gea to go i will always believe that however our scouting and transfer gurus have managed to replace him with someone who is much worse by buying another of Ten Hags ex players
 
Big Ben Foster said:
That was a separate transaction. Did you miss the part where I said signing Onana was a mistake, letting DDG go was not?
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So we did spend a fortune to dowgrade or not? Letting go of DDG when we had tons of problems creating and scoring goals two years ago just like now, was an absolute brain dead decision.
 
a bad De Gea is still better than Onana

Besides, he seems to have regained some of his superpowers at Fiorentina, so we would def be better off with him
 
Kostov said:
So we did spend a fortune to dowgrade or not? Letting go of DDG when we had tons of problems creating and scoring goals two years ago just like now, was an absolute brain dead decision.
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Nope it wasn't at all, he had to go, we just didn't replace him well. Onana being shit, doesn't make De Gea better.
 
Kostov said:
So we did spend a fortune to dowgrade or not? Letting go of DDG when we had tons of problems creating and scoring goals two years ago just like now, was an absolute brain dead decision.
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Buying Onana was a huge waste of money.
But keeping DDG (even on somewhat reduced wages) would also have been a waste of money as his performances didn't justify that anymore.

The only mistake here was buying Onana.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
In his last season with us, De Gea won the golden gloves.

I could grow a second arse before onana does that.
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Onana is currently joint third for clean sheets in the Premier League (he has nine, the same number as Alisson, Henderson and Pickford). It’s almost as if that’s a terrible metric with which the judge the quality of goalkeepers…
 
Loved DDG for most of his time here but with his performances and his silly salary it was time to go. Replacing him with Onana has been the problem as above.
 
Eric_the_Red99 said:
Onana is currently joint third for clean sheets in the Premier League (he has nine, the same number as Alisson, Henderson and Pickford). It’s almost as if that’s a terrible metric with which the judge the quality of goalkeepers…
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Only an idiot would claim de gea was the same goalkeeper he had been in that last year, my point was rather people claiming he was 'throwing the ball into his own net every other game' and other nonsense.

He was on a downward slide. But we were a team who couldn't score enough goals, the onana signing was wong not because de gea was a perfect goalie, but because onana was no better, and is currently worse, and most importantly, while his form was declining, de gea was nowhere near the biggest problem we had to deal with.

The money spent on onona mount and rasmus could have bought one, world class striker. We could have offered Kane anything he wanted. And if we had done that, I guarantee we would be in a much better place now.

Replacing de gea could wait, replacing de gea with a goalie that was worse than him could wait forever.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
The money spent on onona mount and rasmus could have bought one, world class striker. We could have offered Kane anything he wanted. And if we had done that, I guarantee we would be in a much better place now.
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It could also have bought a true world class keeper who allows to further build the team from the back, not from the front. And that would have been just as good (if not better) than buying Kane. After all I think we all agree that a lot of money was wasted on signings that were a bad fit.
 
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