He has all the attributes as a good DM. Passing, defending, energy, and a bit of skill to carry the ball forward. Why not just use him there?
David Luiz
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He's been nowhere near as bad as some are saying he's been. It's been typical David Luiz - he's been excellent in some games and absolute trash in others , he very rarely just has a solid 7/10 game which is why he's talked about so much.
Yeah and also given Hulk's tendency to cut inside all the time, which would have potentially covered with a right footed CB at LB. But David Luiz has never had the concentration levels, nor the defensive nous to be used as a man marker.Should not be such a bad thing for him because David Luíz was used as left back in youth teams because of his speed and skill.
The idea of Jorge Jesus was good on paper: Hulk is a player that relied on speed and power, and Luíz had the pace and the physical strength to deal with him. Citing those sensationalist documentaries: "No one was prepared for what will happen next."
Poor Jorge Jesus put too much faith in him that day.
I’m not sure why this notion keeps getting peddled. One of the key attributes of being a DM is to have positional awareness and discipline, you can‘t be roaming 50 yards out of your position just because you feel like it. This is one of Luiz’s biggest weaknesses in my opinion. I think he’d be a disaster there, likely get in the way of other midfielders and not provide the defensive cover he’d need to.
I thought this myself. Maybe even as a traditional midfielder. Make the most of his positive attributes.
He is one of Chelsea's greatest servants - in so many senses.
Bought by Chelsea in 2011 and helped them win the Champions League.
Sold to PSG in 2014 for £50, which was the world-record fee for a defender (daylight robbery)
Bought by Chelsea again in 2016 for a measly sum. Helped them win the Europa League.
Sold to a traditional rival, and he destroyed their chances of even finishing in the Europa League places. Well played, Chelsea.
Bought by Chelsea in 2011 and helped them win the Champions League.
Sold to PSG in 2014 for £50, which was the world-record fee for a defender (daylight robbery)
Bought by Chelsea again in 2016 for a measly sum. Helped them win the Europa League.
Sold to a traditional rival, and he destroyed their chances of even finishing in the Europa League places. Well played, Chelsea.
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At this point I'm assumign Arsenal have some ties with AFTV and want to make some money.
4 years would be fun.
He's 33 and fecking shite. Surely there's some youth player who deserves any minutes they're going to give Luiz.
But if they want to keep using his comedy stylings, who am I to judge?
But if they want to keep using his comedy stylings, who am I to judge?
Arsenal been a banter club since day. Of course they're offering Luiz a new contract.
Anyone else waiting for Carragher's thoughts?
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Ornstein confirming it.
Mari is fine, 4 years for Cedric seems excessive and can't see how he could have any leverage? Should have given him a 2+1 club option or tell him to do one.
Luiz, well...
Luiz, well...
If true, I really don't get it. He has never learned, he lets his team down time and time again and will continue to let Arsenal down.
The only thing I can think of is that they are desperate for numbers and they can't afford to go into the market and buy a good defender.
The only thing I can think of is that they are desperate for numbers and they can't afford to go into the market and buy a good defender.
There is nothing positive about keeping Luiz. Even if you made the argument about experience, is that seriously the sort of experience you want to impart on up and coming defenders??
This all just highlights how little Arsenal intend on doing in the summer window.
This all just highlights how little Arsenal intend on doing in the summer window.
They need to be shipping Luiz out
If they want to add experience to the team, Arteta should be looking to add the likes of Adams, Viera and others from both the Wenger & Graham eras to his coaching staff (1) to teach the younger players about leadership & fighting for the badge. That more than anything would help improve Arsenal's fortunes than any signing Arsenal will likely make next transfer window.
(1) Both of them (in their early days) where more than happy to get rid of the older, more established players in favour of younger potential talents who would do a better job than those they replaced. Perhaps Arteta should start adopting that policy.
Zack Medley is their best CB among the youth ranks; its pretty crimminal that while Mustafi & Luiz get chance after chance to mess up on a consistant basis (While Sokratis, Mari & Chambers are all suffering from injury issues), Medley still has yet to be given a chance (1) in the first team. Likewise Mavropanos (without a doubt their best young CB talent) has hardly got any game time under Wenger, Emery & now Arteta.
(1) Moreso considering that England are not exactly blessed with CB talent at a youth level.
Just like he has let down Chelsea, PSG & Brazil down on multiple ocassions.
They might as well promote Medley & Mavropanos to the first team, mainly because it would be both cheaper & better for the club than keeping Luiz & Mustafi next season.
If they want to bring an experienced defender to join their ranks, they might as well get Thiago Silva on a free. Which would be better than extending Luiz's contract and not selling Mustafi.
I suggest Arteta ring up Mourinho on how to get himself sacked. Simply because the longer he stays up there, the greater the damage to his managerial career.
The only thing I can think of is that they couldn't get him to agree to just extend through until the end of this season? If that wasn't the case they must just be extremely desperate.
Just goes to show how badly run Arsenal have become, making bad decisions becomes a disease and they are riddled with it. This job is going to become if not already a nightmare for Arteta.
Don't understand this view. He is prone to making mistakes and is tactically poor. Those responsibilities are not diminished at DM.
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It's not often that I laugh out loud at hearing news, but this was an exception.
Huh?
They've lost their minds.
David Luiz: Arsenal defender signs new one-year contract at club
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53161746
David Luiz: Arsenal defender signs new one-year contract at club
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53161746
For a 8m defender what can you ask for?
The ability to defend?
To not make mistakes that lead to goals every game?
Statistically David Luiz has only made 2 errors leading to goals this season. Yes he does make horrendous, laughable mistakes occassionally, but he also has plenty of solid games which gone unnoticed. When he doesn't commit silly errors, he has a much better overall performance than many average defenders in the league and he is also good on the ball. 8m is a bargain for clubs like Arsenal and you can't even buy a youngster with that kind of money nowadays.
He's averaged giving away a penalty every 6 games since he joined Arsenal.
He's fecking awful.
Glorious timing of announcing this straight after that absolutely dreadful performance.
Amazing.
Amazing.
He's prone to mistake as CB. Tactically poor? I don't understand how you know this.
Think he means positioning as he's always in the wrong place.
It's crazy. Crazy fun that is