no - but adexkola used the term 'patriots'.
i dont care about international teams getting dual-or triple citizenshpi players - but they aren't patriots.
Day 19: Belgium vs. United States
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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i dont care about international teams getting dual-or triple citizenshpi players - but they aren't patriots.
Fair play to the USA but Belgium should have wrapped it up even before the 2nd half started, some horrible finishing and a brilliant Howard. Anyone claiming this victory was not deserved is bonkers.
Haters will hate, if England had gone to the final would Sheffield Wednesday have a run on season tickets? I freely acknowledge that MLS is not great football, we don't claim that it is. I live 90 miles from the "local" MLS franchise and I go to 2 games a year. Keep hating, we like the attention. If 1,000 people are turned on to the beautiful game by the world cup it's 1,000 we no longer have to try to convert. What are you afraid of?
I think Origi should start against the Argies even with Lukaku's decent performance tonight.
Shit ending from an USA supporter's perspective, but proud nonetheless of the effort. Just lacked that last bit of composure and quality to get over the line, but the determination to fight on and leave everything (and I mean everything, sweat, soul, training ground set pieces, and everything in-between) on the pitch is something that will not go unappreciated.
What, Divock?
They're fecking football players, patriotism has nothing to do with football and the comment was they couldn't pass a citizenship test, which has little to do with being a patriot.
What a tragedy. Great game US of A. Going out with their heads held high
Yeah
He did, Kroos did, Höwedes did. And if you look at the pictures none of the Germans is surprised...
And you see it in the way he goes onto the ground, too.
Because they didn't leave their own half for the previous 90 minutes.
The USA didn't even start playing until 116 minutes into this game when Green scored. And if it hadn't been for Howard, Belgium would've been out of sight long ago. His heroics have put a completely different spin on the USA performance, which was largely abject until that late push. You can't even say they defended well, because Belgium created so many chances.
EDIT: I meant 106 minutes.
Nothing but admiration for the US. A proper football team.
can bundesliga watchers tell me if green is going to be in the bayern first team next season?
Exactly, fair play they played really well 2nd half of extra time but Belgium would have smashed them if it wasn't for Howard. 16 saves for God sake!! Hasn't happened in 50 years apparently
This is also true of most other countries. It happens with both the world cup and the Olympics. Millions of people watch the rowing at the Olympics but I doubt they bother taking the time to check out local competition.
Gutted for him, too, he was really driving us forward when everyone was teetering on the edge of succumbing to the fatigue. Couple of bad free kicks, that moment when he had two teammates to his left at the edge of the area and he inexplicably turned into a crowd, those moments unfortunately stand out a bit for me...
Yep, fairness and top class sporting behaviour and desire. Strange with the manager they have who was a right cheating cnut.
I agree. We were shit for 95 minutes. I hate that we packed it in so deep in our defensive third the entire game except for a few odd breaks.
Pray that Moyes gets the Galatasaray job.
If you gave a team as talented as England that belief and desire, they could win the World Cup. We just don't have the talent at this point in time.
And if it wasn't for missing open chances the US would have tied it. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Scholes is a hater, let him hate.
I know, maybe he's atoning for it.
Their attitude and sportsmanlike behaviour has been a credit to them in this tournament. No dives, no surrounding the referee, just pure footballing endeavour.
Well I'm going to give the US nothing but praise - and Belgium too for that matter - as they both took part in a fecking superb game of football. Probably second or third best of the tournament so far.
That extra time... Jesus.
That extra time... Jesus.
Got any military bases in Spain?
Don't give those bastards in D.C. any ideas.
I'm not English so I don't care about the English NT either.
It was just tedious hearing the BBC wank themselves silly over the unrelenting, "fighting, American spirit" whereas in truth Belgium should have put the game to bed by half time were it not for Tim Howard playing like he was on anabolic steroids prescribed by Bane. And this desperate attempt to get Americans to love football - leave them be FFS, no one cares.
Yes they have played their part in making this a great World Cup.
By the way, Kompany is the best centre back in the world. Anyone who says Thiago Silva 
In my perception (probably wrong, cause I'm wasted), we were 10 times better. I actually cried at the end of the game.
Credit to Howard, amazing game.
This is the Belgian team I want to see.
Credit to Howard, amazing game.
This is the Belgian team I want to see.
I think the English only need a proper manager to bring them along. They have a shitload of young talent and some quality vets, they just lack direction and on some level belief. A proper manager that could get them to believe again and anything is possible. The Euros will be the time for England to make a statement to the world.
Bit of a daft post. People were talking about the quality of the performance. We all know it can be a very cruel game and one team can absolutely batter another team for the whole match and then lose to a set piece or a mistake at the other end. The point being, Tim Howard's heroics and the last 15 minute push masked, what was in reality, a pretty terrible performance.
It was dramatic and exciting because they nearly got away with it.
Don't think he'll get many minutes. Bayern have Robben, Ribery, Müller, Götze, Shaqiri for his position. I'd guess that he'll continue playing for the second team most of the time or maybe he'll go on loan.
We had Klinsmann, ask our resident Bayern fans if he is a proper manager.
Quality rant.i think england could do a lot worse than hiring benitez to become manager to be honest.
Whenever I read "if it wasn't for_________" I laugh. We have a saying here "shoulda,woulda,coulda"....if this happened we coulda, if that happened we woulda, we shoulda...> They don't apply, the match was what it was. A terrible performance from the US in the final 16, and that terrible performance goes to extra time and a thrilling half hour? We'll take it. It beats not being there by a country mile.
I agree that we just need a proper manager. People say the players just aren't good enough but lets clearly not true. We are just perennial sufferers of crap tactics and a lack of proper team spirit. We'll get stuffed at the Euros with Hodgson in charge.
Obviously you do
I agree it's better to be there and lose, than not to be there at all. But your saying still doesn't fit the discussion that was being had.
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