I've never been gutted when a team has won the World Cup (only experienced 3 lol) but I'll be gutted if Brazil win the thing. Dirty play, biased referees. Can't stand these cnuts.
Day 20: Brazil vs. Colombia
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I dont think its corruption, I think it's just sheer luck the Brazilians are continually bailed out by the refs.
I hope Germany hump them.
I hope Germany hump them.
It gets worse, feckin Strachan on ITV
I feel violated after watching that.
Hope Brazil beat Germany, they may have got favourable decisions but I prefer Brazil to win it than the Germans. I think Brazil will be up for it, hopefully Neymar will be alright to play.
Having seen the replay of the Yepes goal, I pretty much agree that at least most of the decisions were right. Still uncertain about whether James actually committed a foul for the Luiz goal. He pulls away from making any contact.
As for the letting the game flow thing -there were 0.6 fouls per minute. Yellows to Fernandinho (who keeps on getting away with this, somehow) and Paulinho in the first half would have greatly reduced that. The referee had more screen time than any of the players, which is usually a bad sign on its own.
He didn't 'let the game flow', quite the opposite. He let the Brazilians foul at will to disrupt any Columbian fluidity.
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That post was an abomination in terms of grammar, clichés and the ridiculous inclusion of calling Holland the "flying Dutchmen", and frankly, sounded like something a shit pundit would say in the post-game analysis.
I know this would probably be terrible in practice, but if a team is systematically fouling, I think the ref should be able to warn the captain that whoever commits the next foul, a yellow will be awarded. This might curb the worrying trend of tactical fouling that ruin the flow of games.
With that username, no doubt.
Well he didn't need to do that here since it was Fernandinho, Fernandinho, Fernandinho, Fernandinho, Fernandinho. See Fletcher v Arsenal 2009.
I remember it well.
It's more a general point. It's killing free flowing football because players are not sufficiently punished for endless small fouls to break up the play. You need refs who have played the game because they understand what's going on.
The principle of awarding an automatic yellow for the next foul doesn't sit quite right with me, because the next tackle might be something incredibly soft. That might lead to players putting pressure on the ref to keep giving yellows for soft tackles, by pointing to that and say "you gave a yellow for that, now this has to be a yellow". Something needs to be done though. If a player commits three fouls within ten minutes or some other arbitrary period of time, or seven fouls in a game, an automatic yellow is awarded, or something like that. That might give the fourth official something to do as well...
Just giving a yellow to those individuals who committed 3 or 4 cynical fouls, like the ref should have done, would have done the job. Not sure he could keep count though, as he was blowing his whistle so often.
Referee unfortunately was conned by too many players (Both Brazil and Columbia) falling down too easy.
Anyone see Oscar's Klinsmann-esque fall in injury time?
And as for Fred......my word, he did nothing apart from falling down accidently on purpose
Anyone see Oscar's Klinsmann-esque fall in injury time?
And as for Fred......my word, he did nothing apart from falling down accidently on purpose
A much easier solution already exists in the game. Referees are allowed to book players for persistent fouling - it's just baffling that no-one seems to have told this guy.
I thought that too,some terrible muller dive.I hope brazil get the dodgiest of all dodgy penalties in the last minute of the final and win.
I'd love to see the look on your bitter face then
The problem is that persistent fouling is arbitrary and at the referee's discretion, like many other things in the laws of the game. If FIFA somehow were to come to a consensus on how many fouls are too many, then the ref's job would be made easier.
It's similar to the offside or handball rule. Those were much easier before, if a player was offside when the ball was played then it was called offside. None of this active, passive, interfering with the opponent, blocking line of sight, etc, bollocks. It seems that with every change made to the rules the referees are having to take more and more variables into consideration without getting any more help (and no, I'm not counting those goal-line refs) with their decision making. No wonder it's an impossible job.
The thing I'm annoyed most about is that he gave poor James Rodriguez a fecking Yellow Card for a fairly tame slide-challenge, after the lad had been getting kicked up and down the field... I'd have been livid if that was me!
How Fernandinho didn't get booked... it'll forever be one of life's great mysteries.
How Fernandinho didn't get booked... it'll forever be one of life's great mysteries.
Macca, would you please stop tonguing the mic on the post-game. It's...shall we say, off-putting...
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That just amplifies his utter shiteness: he gave daft dives as fouls all over the shop and didn't card dangerous/tactical fouls. There's no doubt in my mind that he was under heavy manners to leave out the cards.
Bit like Van Bommel in the last World Cup
What the heck was that thing on Rodriguez's shoulder after he scored the penalty?
Regardless of what rival fans think he's a bloody good referee. A copper to boot.
The best in this world cup. The American ref(surprisingly) has also been good.
Howard Webb should have been refereeing in this game. Which game will he referee next?
He refs like a copper -good at crowd control and poor at the other subtleties.
Good enough for me Pete.
Why was the tiago silva goal disallowed? (when he got the yellow card) he didn't touch that goalkeeper. it's a genuine question not a pro-brazil comment
For blatantly running in front of him as he kicked it.
Because he blatantly obstructed the keeper from kicking it, it's a booking in anyone's language, even this referee
Are people forgetting Webb's performance in the 2010 final? People only rate him because he refuses to make the tough decisions.
You're not allowed to challenge the keeper when he's kicking out of his hands (ie he's deemed to be in control of the ball until he kicks it). It's a silly rule but Silva fouled him anyway.
No. I'm not a fan because he simply doesn't read the game but he probably made the right call in the context of a world cup final.
oh ok, thanks! I for one thought this was a nice match. It's funny watching brazil being carried by its centre backs.
Disgusting patronising bollocks!
Why aren't you loitering in the Sanchez thread anyway @peterstorey?. I'm sure he'll choose you lot over them....
If you forget some harsh fouls the brazilian players seem nice lads... They got so much pressure on them too, you got to hand some credit to them