Jacob
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Leave politics out of itSweden 1-0, Durmaz to grab the winner.
Leave politics out of itSweden 1-0, Durmaz to grab the winner.
Leave politics out of it
People are doing Russia a huge disservice. They might not be a particularly good side, but they're not a defensive one. Against Spain they were hardly touching the ball but when they did they broke with more intent the Spain showed all game. I' don't see them as a defensive team in the slightest.For the tournaments sake, imagine how potentially drab a Russia/Sweden semi could be. Both teams huddled in their own penalty areas, the ball just sat untouched in the centre of the pitch.
I'm quite relaxed being the underdog, only worried about Kane... Hard work will take care of the rest.
Tbf I'll take a Stones OG too. Nerves are kicking in, this would be huge for us.
Me too, some are bringing up stats of games against Sweden and the most recent being a friendly 6 years ago in which Zlatan scored 4 and England fielded 6 debutants. That scenario is so far from todays game its unreal. And further back than that you may as well be comparing the England 66 team to anyone!With all the talking by the Swedish team about how England are being arrogant etc, I'm expecting them to be blasted by England today. Early two goals by England and then a comfortable 3-0 win.
Do you really expect all teams to be attacking? That's just irrational. Rather win ugly than loose 'beautifully'. History remembers results, less so the methods.True, against a team like Sweden, they'll have no fear so they'll attack them. Sweden are the true kings of negativity.
Jacob otherwise known as LVGDo you really expect all teams to be attacking? That's just irrational. Rather win ugly than loose 'beautifully'. History remembers results, less so the methods.
For the tournaments sake, imagine how potentially drab a Russia/Sweden semi could be. Both teams huddled in their own penalty areas, the ball just sat untouched in the centre of the pitch.
Well that's not quite true, is it? People probably remember Holland '78 more fondly than Argentina '78. Hungary '54 are far more acclaimed than West Germany '54.Do you really expect all teams to be attacking? That's just irrational. Rather win ugly than loose 'beautifully'. History remembers results, less so the methods.
Maybe for their flair, but certainly not for the significance.Well that's not quite true, is it? People probably remember Holland '78 more fondly than Argentina '78. Hungary '54 are far more acclaimed than West Germany '54.
Was born in Russia but have lived in Northern Ireland since I was 10 so yeah.You're from Russia?
Good luck to you too!
Not sure what you mean by that.Maybe for their flair, but certainly not for the significance.
Germany winning that particular world cup was huge. Massive impact on a nation's confidence after what happened the decades before that.Not sure what you mean by that.
There is an argument by some historians that the disappointment of 1954 - and it was SAVAGE disappointment in a country living incredibly dark days under a totalitarian dictatorship - played a part in the events that led to the 1956 revolution. Some 400 people were arrested in Budapest after the final and it's a small miracle that the spontaneous protests did not snowball into large-scale protests against the communist regime. It was lucky for the Party that some of the ire was directed against the players and the coach.Germany winning that particular world cup was huge. Massive impact on a nation's confidence after what happened the decades before that.
Maybe it's just a German thing and the outcome of that world cup is regarded entirely differently outside of Germany, but winning that was the ultimate underdog story.
That said, very happy that it is indeed coming home this year
Ah wow, goes to show what I know. Wasn't aware that this also had big implications on Hungary outside of football.There is an argument by some historians that the disappointment of 1954 - and it was SAVAGE disappointment in a country living incredibly dark days under a totalitarian dictatorship - played a part in the events that led to the 1956 revolution. Some 400 people were arrested in Budapest after the final and it's a small miracle that the spontaneous protests did not snowball into large-scale protests against the communist regime. It was lucky for the Party that some of the ire was directed against the players and the coach.
But anyway, feck that idiot of a Welsh linesman who felt like raising his flag when Puskás scored a perfectly good goal, probably because he was bored or something. The wanker.
It's funny how significant and serious football can be, isn't it? It's supposed to be just a game after all.Ah wow, goes to show what I know. Wasn't aware that this also had big implications on Hungary outside of football.
From what my dad told me, winning this underdog story brought a great sense of believe back to a nation in ashes, so maybe some opposite effect to the one you described for Hungary.
About the last part, since I'm German not sure I can agree
Running out of replies for the day, so have a good day of football all of you! Coming home it is!
Same here.I'd have gone for Loftus-Cheek and Rashford over Dele and Sterling but not surprised to see an unchanged side.
I was just about to post that. I think playing Loftus-Cheek would've been a risk worth taking.I'd have gone for Loftus-Cheek and Rashford over Dele and Sterling but not surprised to see an unchanged side.