I agree with every point you made. Unless De Gea drastically changes his style this season, he will be a detriment to any progressive system we try to implement - he is a reactionary GK, none of his actions are proactive and has never been a true defensive leader, for United or Spain.
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Ederson has saved 19% of pens he has faced in his career so far.
De Gea 20%.
Shut up with your facts, greg.
I think that was more because of Karius being mere shite.
Ederson is 3 years younger and has far less appearances than the Spaniard. I'm pretty sure Ederson has saved more pens than De Gea in the EPL.
Agree.
Ederson has faced 32 pens in senior football.
26 of those pens have been scored.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ederson/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/238223
You're comparing De Gea with Karius? Get the feck out of here
And how does that compare to De Gea?
De Gea has faced 55 pens. 44 have been scored.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/david-de-gea/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/59377
So Ederson has faced 23 pens fewer but is only 4 behind. I think most would back Ederson saving more than 4 in his next 23 attempts.
Disgusting how so many have turned on De Gea. Amazing how so many who have turned on him still support the likes of Pogba and Martial as well. Absolute tools
Statistically speaking he'll save between 4 and 5 from the next 23 penalties.
didnt in his last 23 so no?
Wantaway goalkeeper who virtually left the club last time his contract run down but had to stay because some pleb couldn't work a fax machine, is now running a contract down again while holding the club to ransom with literally no other party interested in his services due to massively regressing last season.
But let's keep him because he saved some shots once when our defence was at it's all time worst.
He'll be in his peak years with added experience for the next 23. So that should hold him in good stead.
Case in point
So you agree?
Pogba and Martial should be gone also. We're not a charity for those that think they're better than they are.
Don't think you understand penalties.
Can you make me understand 'Penalties'?
That's half the squad shipped out in that case
I would like to see Ederson and Alison behind a defence like ours. I doubt they would be able to cope. We lack so much leadership on the pitch, people expecf De Gea to do everything. Yes he is not as modern as the game is but he is still class. If we do sign a defender with leadership and quality, next year would relieve pressure from him. You do not win player of the year 4 out of 5 years in a squad like this as a fluke.
De Gea doesn't help the defence either by staying rooted to his line. With someone brave like Allison in the team it would improve the defence due to his command of the box. The aerial flaws in Lindelof look worse with De Gea but would be somewhat hidden if he was playing ahead of a commanding presence in goal.
With you about De Gea? feck no. Not in a million years
Let's look at your argument...
Wantaway goalkeeper because he's run his contract down - is he not allowed to see out the contract he signed? Are we meant to now laud players that start agitating for a move half way through the contract they signed? Never once has De Gea tried to force a move from the club, even when said Fax machine fiasco occurred he didn't have to sign a new 5 year contract, he could have kept his council and walked for free 12 months later but didn't, he committed himself to the club and since said time has never once kicked up a fuss. Guess he didn't wantaway that badly after all did he.
Holding the club to ransom - 12 months ago no one would have a problem with De Gea being the best paid player at the club because he was the only one worth his wage, now because he's had a dodgy season though he's holding the club to ransom? FFS
Regressing last season - did Hazard regress when he didn't score a PL goal until April a few years back or did he just have a bad season? Let's wait and see before we start saying De Gea has regressed yeah?
Saved some shots once when our defence was at its all time worst - is that really all De Gea's tenure has been? Saving some shots. If you believe that your the type of 'fan' who deserves the club in its current state because you certainly don't deserve anything better
Doubt it.
Predictable response..
So why ask ?
Judging goalkeepers by penalty stats is, plainly said, stupid. There's what, overeall an 80% conversion rate.
I was responding to another poster. I couldn't care less if a goalkeeper is poor on pens tbh.
If DDG signs his contract extension then we can say goodbye to Henderson.
This is the second time he's run his contract down and he agreed to leave last time he did but he's shown us loyalty? You do realise the risks involved for a professional footballer running down a contract right? If he'd have gotten a career ending injury his insurance wouldn't have paid out and if you think he signed that new contract without assurances he'd be sold to Madrid if they came back in then you're as naive as they get.With you about De Gea? feck no. Not in a million years
Let's look at your argument...
Wantaway goalkeeper because he's run his contract down - is he not allowed to see out the contract he signed? Are we meant to now laud players that start agitating for a move half way through the contract they signed? Never once has De Gea tried to force a move from the club, even when said Fax machine fiasco occurred he didn't have to sign a new 5 year contract, he could have kept his council and walked for free 12 months later but didn't, he committed himself to the club and since said time has never once kicked up a fuss. Guess he didn't wantaway that badly after all did he.
Holding the club to ransom - 12 months ago no one would have a problem with De Gea being the best paid player at the club because he was the only one worth his wage, now because he's had a dodgy season though he's holding the club to ransom? FFS
Regressing last season - did Hazard regress when he didn't score a PL goal until April a few years back or did he just have a bad season? Let's wait and see before we start saying De Gea has regressed yeah?
Saved some shots once when our defence was at its all time worst - is that really all De Gea's tenure has been? Saving some shots. If you believe that your the type of 'fan' who deserves the club in its current state because you certainly don't deserve anything better
We're not in a position to pay goalkeepers that have had a shocking season and that no one else wants record wages. We've got enough issues with the likes of Sanchez and giving him those wages will only tie up our transfer budget more and more. There are other goalkeepers we could pick up who could do an excellent job for half his salary and who also have the ability to save a shot from outside of the box or collect a cross.
You're acting as if he's some sort of legend. We've had better players come and go and now you're acting like Manchester United are beholden to a goalkeeper? It's a sad state of affairs but then again some people beg their wives to stay even though she's out copping for whatever she can behind their back.
Could he and should he be better in some aspects of his game? Sure.
But on the other hand he's isn't some average keeper who saves a shot or 2 like it's been portrayed. Some tend to forget how good he was for us cause he had a poor season..
Wantaway keeper? A keeper who never made a fuss and has been a model professional. Sure..
But on the other hand he's isn't some average keeper who saves a shot or 2 like it's been portrayed. Some tend to forget how good he was for us cause he had a poor season..
Wantaway keeper? A keeper who never made a fuss and has been a model professional. Sure..
And you're acting like he's some run of the mill GK who's done nothing for the club during his tenure (proven by your pathetic comment about him being unable to save shots outside of the box). Like I said you deserve this club to be shit and unsuccessful
People can be unbelievably quick to turn mate. I mean the dude was player of the year 4 times. I'll wager that he will sign a new deal and be back at his imperious best before long.
So weird that you're so disrespectful of a guy who's been our best (and most reliable) player of the post-Fergie period, and yet get hysterical at anyone that has any criticism of OGS - in spite of both of them having a nightmarish last 3 months of the season.
He might - but he isn't gonna save 10 of them. They both suck at penalties….
Think people people should David De Gea a bit more respect bit for the service that he has shown the club. Without him we wouldn't just be up shit street without a paddle. We would be be sinking due to there being so many holes in the boat, due to the amount of times he has saved us in the past few seasons. Yes he had a blip last season. It happens. Just focus on the new season get behind him and hope he plays alike the De Gea we know he is.
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Whether he saves them or not, as of today both have same save percentage (with De Gea marginally better).
He's like 2 years younger than Dave? In a position where they play well into their 30s.
Keepers pen stats are very consistent throughout a career, you're either good at them or not.
It´s a marginal difference.
Ederson has a 18.7% chance of you not scoring.
DDG has a 20% of you not scoring.
So there is nothing in this at all.
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