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Getting a new keeper is more important than a new striker.
It's not, but that only speaks volumes for how bad Weghorst is.Getting a new keeper is more important than a new striker.
Rashford is our new striker.It's not, but that only speaks volumes for how bad Weghorst is.
We saw it for a few games when Henderson got a chance. I know he’s not the answer, but we looked so much better with him there, imagine how a decent modern GK would improve us.I wasn't sure earlier but its a must for him to be replaced next season. He is so poor at playing out from the back and still scared to leave his line.
When we finally get a modern keeper it will feel like the relief felt when we finally got a DM.
Most confusing thread bump ever!He was good tonight you lunatics?
Shite on the corner goal thoughHe was good tonight you lunatics?
I actually think that the "sweeper keeper" part of his game has improved tenfold. I also think his distribution is definitely underrated. Where he still struggles is with crosses. He's just not a brave keeper. Even the best defenders will only win 70% of their aerial duals so that means on 10 crosses, the opponent is going to get 3 headers. So if the ball is crossed into the 6 yard box like Barca's first goal yesterday, De Gea should be coming out to punch. Teams continue to put crosses into our 6 knowing that it's a weakness.I get DDG isnt a strong /elite Sweeper K but are we overly critical of him? Name one GK who hasnt fecked a couple of chances in their past 12 months. Is there anyone ?
DDG is night in night out one of the best performing players we get and we seem as a fanbase to be stuck to his performance from 2-3 years ago?
his salary is getting adjusted to something more relevant soon, I still dont get all the hate and criticism. On the plus note that part of his game is also improving- even last night ive seen him trying to help with building up.
We should sell all the players that defended that corner!!!Shite on the corner goal though
It's a simple case though. He's an average keeper overall, with some glaring weaknesses (coming for crosses and commanding the box) and no clear strengths since he's no longer amazing shotstopper.I get DDG isnt a strong /elite Sweeper K but are we overly critical of him? Name one GK who hasnt fecked a couple of chances in their past 12 months. Is there anyone ?
DDG is night in night out one of the best performing players we get and we seem as a fanbase to be stuck to his performance from 2-3 years ago?
his salary is getting adjusted to something more relevant soon, I still dont get all the hate and criticism. On the plus note that part of his game is also improving- even last night ive seen him trying to help with building up.
Best paid keeper in the world. Can't deal with crosses and is fairly poor at sweeping and passing out from the back. His shot stopping is fairly average now for a top level keeper too.I get DDG isnt a strong /elite Sweeper K but are we overly critical of him? Name one GK who hasnt fecked a couple of chances in their past 12 months. Is there anyone ?
DDG is night in night out one of the best performing players we get and we seem as a fanbase to be stuck to his performance from 2-3 years ago?
his salary is getting adjusted to something more relevant soon, I still dont get all the hate and criticism. On the plus note that part of his game is also improving- even last night ive seen him trying to help with building up.
The issue is things like the table below. When you judge his overall package, what he brings to the table and compare it with others, it does not stack up well. He used to top these sorts of charts, or be among the top. He is well in the mediocre realm now. His shot stopping isn't elite anymore. Aerial battles/crosses have always been a big weakness. Passing out from the back is at best average PL level. Sweeping is at best average. There are just many goalkeepers who are much better all round than De Gea these days.I get DDG isnt a strong /elite Sweeper K but are we overly critical of him? Name one GK who hasnt fecked a couple of chances in their past 12 months. Is there anyone ?
DDG is night in night out one of the best performing players we get and we seem as a fanbase to be stuck to his performance from 2-3 years ago?
his salary is getting adjusted to something more relevant soon, I still dont get all the hate and criticism. On the plus note that part of his game is also improving- even last night ive seen him trying to help with building up.
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He’s not the striker we need. He’s been scoring goals when moved upfront yes but can he do what natural ST can which is the hold up and link up play? We need a ST and then rashford will probably score even more than this season out on the left.Rashford is our new striker.
Replacing Weghorst is a given, but replacing De Gea is a bigger priority than replacing Casemiro and Eriksen. Especially in Casemiro's case.I’d say that below Weghorst, who would be your biggest priority, it’s Casemiro and Eriksen who are your biggest replacement issues. Seems crazy given they’ve only been at the club 4 or 5 months, but they are both 31 this month. After that De gea I’d say.
Exactly. Not even counted that he's the best paid keeper in the world, he's bang mediocre these days.The issue is things like the table below. When you judge his overall package, what he brings to the table and compare it with others, it does not stack up well. He used to top these sorts of charts, or be among the top. He is well in the mediocre realm now. His shot stopping isn't elite anymore. Aerial battles/crosses have always been a big weakness. Passing out from the back is at best average PL level. Sweeping is at best average. There are just many goalkeepers who are much better all round than De Gea these days.
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Yes the pay is an issue but even aside from it, he is the worst goalkeeper at a big club around Europe. He shouldn't be starting for us whether it's for 100k pw or 350k pw.
Surely Raya would be first choice.Keeping DDG at low wages (~100k) and signing Raya at 15M to compete with him, guaranteeing Raya at least 10 league games and all domestic cup games, would be a nice move
Its notGetting a new keeper is more important than a new striker.
No, we aren't nuts, we just simply can separate the football side of the story from having emotions for someone who has been a great servant for our club - which is something I'm completely ok with but it isn't objective enough.In the last 20 years we’ve had 3 top keepers.
Schmeichel, Van Der Sar and De Gea.
People who want him replaced are nuts, he’s still one of the best out there and makes saves other keepers can only dream of.
We are going to have to disagree on this, DDG is one of the best shot stoppers in the world. Over the last 10 years he’s without a doubt one of our best and most consistent performers. He’s not a sweeper keeper. We are all obsessed with the sweeper keeper but It’s fad and only very few keepers do it. When Conte came into Chelsea his team was going to dominate forever after going 3 at the back. Then pep and Klopp have had success with sweeper keepers and we are all so obsessed that the best keeper we’ve had for a long while is no longer good enough.No, we aren't nuts, we just simply can separate the football side of the story from having emotions for someone who has been a great servant for our club - which is something I'm completely ok with but it isn't objective enough.
Also, he's never been a top goalkeeper IMO, let alone these days. Top shot-stopper, I can agree, but overall he offers very little from other aspects of the game to call him a top goalkeeper. And now, when he starts to decline in his strongest ability and became average at shot-stopping it is more obvious than ever he should be replaced.
Moving forward from DDG is something I was suggesting a season ago but now it's almost a priority for the upcoming summer transfer window.
Although I can agree with you on this, that alone doesn't make him a top player given we were far from great in those 10 years.We are going to have to disagree on this, DDG is one of the best shot stoppers in the world. Over the last 10 years he’s without a doubt one of our best and most consistent performers.
I would never question the way of winning a match or say that you can't win a league with De Gea, but I don't see much point in debating Conte's style vs ETH's style. Also, sweeper keepers existed a long way before both Pep and Klopp came to England and sweeping/distribution aren't the only weakness that De Gea showed, he is simply not a well-rounded goalkeeper.He’s not a sweeper keeper. We are all obsessed with the sweeper keeper but It’s fad and only very few keepers do it. When Conte came into Chelsea his team was going to dominate forever after going 3 at the back. Then pep and Klopp have had success with sweeper keepers and we are all so obsessed that the best keeper we’ve had for a long while is no longer good enough.