I doubt the manager has much (any?) say in what wage the club offers players.The same Ole who offered de Gea a 375k-per-week contract in the first place despite his repeated errors?
Since when is Ole in charge of contracts and wages?The same Ole who offered de Gea a 375k-per-week contract in the first place despite his repeated errors?
I'd give Ole a benefit of the doubt about the contract, but he definitely had the choice to drop de Gea when he kept making howlers. I feel the baby-faced assassin theory is a bit exaggerated and there is no evidence Ole will get rid of de Gea like other players in the foreseeable future.I doubt the manager has much (any?) say in what wage the club offers players.
Then again he might. We really don't know how much influence he has on things like that, or whether he simply says 'yeah we want to keep him' and then the finance guys sort it all out.
I thought many criticized Mourinho for offering Alexis the huge contract? And Moyes for Rooney's contract?Since when is Ole in charge of contracts and wages?
More for chasing a signing of a LW when we already had one performing well. And publicly pressuring the club to make the dealI thought many criticized Mourinho for offering Alexis the huge contract?
I'm sure they did but it doesn't mean any of them were responsible for the contracts or wages.I thought many criticized Mourinho for offering Alexis the huge contract? And Moyes for Rooney's contract?
When the narrative suits.Since when is Ole in charge of contracts and wages?
Definitely.When the narrative suits.
£50-60m and I’d be delighted to sell Henderson.Question for thought - at what price point would you guys be willing to sell Dean Henderson to Chelsea? (assuming all of the money would be reinvested in the squad)
£40m? £50m? £60m?
For me personally, if we can get that last amount, I would sell him in a flash.
He might turn out to be good for them but he is not a ball playing goalkeeper to command crazy premiums nor is he a ridiculous shotstopper like Oblak and DDG (pre 2018).
Also, elite goalkeepers generally show their main competency by his age. Our academy is arguably the best at producing goalkeepers in the world and there are always bargains out there in his position.
English goalkeepers also have a history of not being able to keep at a high level for a long time.
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Doesn't look like he's going back to Sheffield United next season.
They also got Fotheringham from Rangers a month or so ago. They won't be after Henderson now.Surely not spending that much to play second fiddle to Henderson?
What about Pickford?I hope we are taking a serious look at Henderson or Romero.
He's on the same "supporters want rid" list as Kepa.What about Pickford?
Surely you guys couldn’t afford the former?I hope we are taking a serious look at Henderson or Romero.
Yeah but they signed him for 30 million and will they sell him for loss?He's on the same "supporters want rid" list as Kepa.
Give us 40mil for our FreeJadon campaign and you can have De Gea.I hope we are taking a serious look at Henderson or Romero.
He's gone backwards on his early potential and he's a massive wanker. I honestly do not remember the last Everton player that I disliked but he is up there. Tried to defend him loads around 18/19 but he's just indefensible now. The only problem would be getting rid of him as I doubt many people would take him and he's on a decent contract until 2024 because we spunked our load after his good WC. I'm sure that his stats this season were almost as bad as Kepa for Chelsea and when they are the two most expensive keepers in the league (I think they're both in the top 5 of all time most expensive GKs) it's pretty damning. It's something we do need to have a serious think about though / at least get in some stiff competition for him if we don't replace him.What about Pickford?
Probably not due to the other improvements we need to make this summer but it depends on what United want to do. I think if you let him go out on loan again this summer then it's probably likely he will be your no. 1 the season after so we'd get him for one year and then be in the same boat. That's why I'd quite like us to have a bid for Romero - solid keeper that could probably give us 2 years and time to find a keeper that we thought Pickford would be.Surely you guys couldn’t afford the former?
Yeah, getting rid of him will be a problem. I said in other post, among top 6 teams only Chelsea are looking for GKs, below that clubs have Leicester, Wolves have good keepers. Problem is finding club that makes decent offer and then convincing Pickford to take a step down in his career. Maybe club like West Ham.He's gone backwards on his early potential and he's a massive wanker. I honestly do not remember the last Everton player that I disliked but he is up there. Tried to defend him loads around 18/19 but he's just indefensible now. The only problem would be getting rid of him as I doubt many people would take him and he's on a decent contract until 2024 because we spunked our load after his good WC. I'm sure that his stats this season were almost as bad as Kepa for Chelsea and when they are the two most expensive keepers in the league (I think they're both in the top 5 of all time most expensive GKs) it's pretty damning. It's something we do need to have a serious think about though / at least get in some stiff competition for him if we don't replace him.
His career path is following that of Joe Hart. From what I ve heard, one of the problems he has is that he s not what you call a model professional - at least off the pitchHe's gone backwards on his early potential and he's a massive wanker. I honestly do not remember the last Everton player that I disliked but he is up there. Tried to defend him loads around 18/19 but he's just indefensible now. The only problem would be getting rid of him as I doubt many people would take him and he's on a decent contract until 2024 because we spunked our load after his good WC. I'm sure that his stats this season were almost as bad as Kepa for Chelsea and when they are the two most expensive keepers in the league (I think they're both in the top 5 of all time most expensive GKs) it's pretty damning. It's something we do need to have a serious think about though / at least get in some stiff competition for him if we don't replace him.
Probably not due to the other improvements we need to make this summer but it depends on what United want to do. I think if you let him go out on loan again this summer then it's probably likely he will be your no. 1 the season after so we'd get him for one year and then be in the same boat. That's why I'd quite like us to have a bid for Romero - solid keeper that could probably give us 2 years and time to find a keeper that we thought Pickford would be.
Romero's a proven number 2 though, neither Henderson nor De Gea are going to play 2nd fiddle to either so while for a season we may have all 3 I'd expect next summer we'll know the state of things long term and we'll still need Romero thenI think we should be selling Romero and letting Henderson and De Gea duke it out this season.
Yeah either De Gea focuses and gets back to his old best or he loses his place.Henderson back to United then it would seem. At least with him breathing down his neck De Gea might wake up a bit.
De Gea doesn't really have much of a choice with the wages he's on. If Henderson starts the season as no.2, I think De Gea can be dropped if he drops a stinker, which has never been the case with Romero. I also could envisage a scenario where, we play Henderson in the CL.Romero's a proven number 2 though, neither Henderson nor De Gea are going to play 2nd fiddle to either so while for a season we may have all 3 I'd expect next summer we'll know the state of things long term and we'll still need Romero then
As said before I'd love to sack off both De Gea and Henderson and just buy Oblak
Depends doesn't it, not many players of De Gea's potential WC ability take the Bale stance of pissing their career away just because of the money they're onDe Gea doesn't really have much of a choice with the wages he's on. If Henderson starts the season as no.2, I think De Gea can be dropped if he drops a stinker, which has never been the case with Romero. I also could envisage a scenario where, we play Henderson in the CL.
I don't actually think you've done anything wrong with Pickford. When you bought him he seemed like a big talent and when you renewed his contract he was still good. No idea why he declined so much.He's gone backwards on his early potential and he's a massive wanker. I honestly do not remember the last Everton player that I disliked but he is up there. Tried to defend him loads around 18/19 but he's just indefensible now. The only problem would be getting rid of him as I doubt many people would take him and he's on a decent contract until 2024 because we spunked our load after his good WC. I'm sure that his stats this season were almost as bad as Kepa for Chelsea and when they are the two most expensive keepers in the league (I think they're both in the top 5 of all time most expensive GKs) it's pretty damning. It's something we do need to have a serious think about though / at least get in some stiff competition for him if we don't replace him.
I think if we don't completely freeze him out from the start, he would be able to accept it for one season and then look to leave, but like you say, he'd have to forget about the money and be willing to take a significant wage cut as I don't think we should subsidise his wages if he goes on loan or leaves.Depends doesn't it, not many players of De Gea's potential WC ability take the Bale stance of pissing their career away just because of the money they're on
I would hope for the sake of his International career De Gea would kick up and almighty fuss to leave the club if it became apparent he was second choice
Where is this big mess? Our defence is one of the best in Europe statistically. I don’t see much wrong with it to be honest. I can only assume that you’re taking the piss?Yeah, I will certainly look forward Dean cleaning the mess our defence make
