It's both.
That is just bollocks and you should watch some games.
That was your original statement, which simply isn't true.
fecking hell, ayee that is what I'm doing Fergus
Changed your tune now that you don't have a diamond! I'd rather a diamond to play against Ronaldinho etc than a system with two wingers whos attacking is their best quality and defence not so much.
Exactly. I have no idea where this whole "lack of width is a defensive weakness" stuff came from. It's relevant if the fullbacks have nothing to worry about behind their backs, but Pelé and Rivaldo are plenty to worry about!
fecking hell, ayee that is what I'm doing Fergus
You have some sort of problem with me and you were always going to say stuff like this, but lets not talk bollocks. In the last draft time and time again all that was repeated is that the diamond was vulnerable out wide, half my time was spent trying to convince people that Gattuso and De Rossi could do a job in minimising that threat.
If you come up against good wingers then a narrow formation is vulnerable there.
You got it right earlier but are going back to the same mistake. The reason your wide players are handy is that it stretches Stob and opens up space in the middle for Maradona, not that the space is out wide. i.e. wingers are handy against a diamond because they help decongest/create space in the centre of the park, not because the space is on the flanks.
Look it's Fergus but this time he's saying a formation would give him an advantage. Strange.
Is that because of the personelle in each formation, or did I just say 352 would give me an advantage over other formations regardless of anything?
I told you to get real because you were talking rubbish, TITO was blatantly right that certain tactics have benefits over another but you were just going off on one again.You behave like a child when it comes to these drafts! From what I remember everyone completely bought into the idea that Gattusso and De Rossi would press the wings, I certainly did.
I made a point, offered my opinion. Your AM and then yourself get me into a conversation about it, tell me to 'get real', and when I defend my opinion you start crying about some agenda.
Your tag line is very apt.
Indeed, like the quality of the wingers..
Stay classy Tito.
Indeed, like the quality of the wingers..
Okay, so we agree having Jairzinho and Ronaldinho against a narrow team is an advantage.
Yes we do, did I say otherwise? Or is that your sole intention in these threads, to twist everything so it resembles a compliment to your team?
Sorry guys. Low blow.
Depending on the quality of personnel and how you choose to use them, yes it could be, but you are taking wingers and wanting them to cut inside and further congest an area I am already flooding. Carlos "stretching" the width is a non-factor in this context.
It's simple enough. Stobz has a tight central three to protect his defence, all of whom are all-round, defensively robust midfielders. You've got Tigana and, to a lesser extent in a defensive sense, Xavi. That would be a big ask against a bog standard number 10, never mind up against the best of the 40s and 70s generations. With the ball your team looks fantastic. Without the ball it is very vulnerable.
What was the point of Amoros over Ferrara if all you would bang on about was Carlos? Bizarre.Didn't count in my game, not sure why it should count here then.
It should have counted in your game. I was away for that unfortunately.
You could also argue Stob didn't need much drilling as it was very much the same side as in the last game but with Baresi instead of Ruggeri, while you went from playing with a pivot spraying balls to playing with Maradona pulling strings upfront. That needs more drilling from one game to the next
