Is there? I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong but I don't don't he'll be under the remotest bit of pressure for his job unless they somehow dive back down to the levels of his first couple of years.
Declan Rice | signs for arsenal
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105 million for the pair
It sucks sitting back and watching that banter club get deals done.
Look at Arsenal spunking a massive chunk of money, good for them!
A complete overpay, but hey, it happens. Very good player, but there are players who can provide better value and do very well for their club.
We welcome Arsenal's spending because they cannot say they didn't buy players under Lego Pep, nor were there some big time fees.
A complete overpay, but hey, it happens. Very good player, but there are players who can provide better value and do very well for their club.
We welcome Arsenal's spending because they cannot say they didn't buy players under Lego Pep, nor were there some big time fees.
He'll be protected by most of the English media, but at minimum, Arsenal have to finished 2nd or 3rd and with some of these signings, the team has improved thus the expectation is to improve (go higher) in the table, no?
Just like how there will be pressure with Poch to get Chelsea challenging for a European place, if not Top 4. Chelsea, like Arsenal, is not short of talented players.
I feel if he still gets top four or even just misses out he will be able to successfully behind "young team". Look at this season, never have I seen a team blow such a title advantage get such an easy ride from both media and fans.
I actually worry we maybe going down the same route (using young team as a get out of jail free card) but then again I'm naturally cynical
Meh, more glad him and bellingham are done now, so we dont need to be linked to them all summer
Gotta admit I’m jealous
Great signing for Arsenal and with Havert and Timber they’ve attacked this summer window whilst we’re dwindling around over 5m for Mason fecking Mount
Great signing for Arsenal and with Havert and Timber they’ve attacked this summer window whilst we’re dwindling around over 5m for Mason fecking Mount
Claiming Rice won't improve Arsenal is absurd.
Look how good Arsenal are already, now they're adding Rice who is much better than Xhaka and Partey plus much younger too.
Unfortunately he'll be class for them.
Look how good Arsenal are already, now they're adding Rice who is much better than Xhaka and Partey plus much younger too.
Unfortunately he'll be class for them.
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It is too early to say. Pepe was good in France too. There is always risk on player transfer.
They're getting Timber?
Apparently terms are already agreed and bids are in to Ajax
It looks nailed on for around 50m
Hope he ends up wearing a low shirt number for them. You don't spend 100m on a player only for him to wear something ridiculous like 41.
Much as £105 million for Rice is mad, I still don't get how Arsenal are suddenly big hitters with ambition again all of a sudden.
What’s with this weird obsession with squad numbers?
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Saw it mentioned in a few threads in recent days, preference seems to be far more than just personal. Weird thing to be bothered about but this is the Caf.
Some of the early cafe views on Rice in 2019 make interesting reading. Started of with some really awful takes but gradually many positive comments took over (at least on the first two pages).
Positive posts:
This gem of referring to someone's prediction:
Funny how unpredictable football can be!
West Ham will be laughing into the new season. They will probably be better next season anyway. These players aren't 'game-changers'. They are just decent players, who do a job.
Well, we have game changers, so you're describing what we need, someone who does a specific job. He's obviously more than decent.
So is that 170m already for Chequebook Arteta and his plucky team full of youth players.
Declan Rice is a decent player and he is not worth £100m. No way. He'll be the most expensive British player, ever. He's not even the best England player! It's nuts, nuts...
People saying that £ 100 million + for Rice is obscene.......maybe so but it's like buying a house. If you want a 3 bed semi detached you have to pay the market rate.
The market today is fecked, saying a player is worth x means very little. And c'mon, he's clearly more than decent.
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Well to be fair I don't think even the most biased of Arsenal fan would compare Declan Rice to Casemiro. In their position that would be like comparing Mason Mount to De Bruyne.
A lot of fans on here were questioning his form for the second half of the season!
I hate weird squad numbers to be fair. Just look at city’s team, such weird squad numbers. It just feels abit tinpot to me. Utd actually have weight and history attached to their numbers.
If true, West Ham did amazing business here. They can laugh every step to the bank. What are Arsenal doing? If this is a normal value of this quality of player then players like Fred and McTomniay are worth over £150m
Casa has and always will be a better player than Rice but to be fair I think he’s a great signing even at that fee. He’s still young and is one of the best in his position the world football. Casa is probably the best in his position though, so that’s the bar.
I agree that he has to win a trophy soon. But if he can keep us in CL for a few years, that would be a HUGE improvement on where we've been for almost the last decade. No CL for 7 years has really hurt our bottom line, which is why the Kroenkes had to spend to overhaul our squad. I imagine the spending (at least to this current degree) will have to slow down at some point.
And yes we've spent similar amounts in the last 3-4 years. Out of curiosity which team do you think has improved for all the money spent? Arteta has bought a whole new team with his half billion quid, we're unrecognisable from the team he inherited. I think most fans would be delighted with what he's done. Most of my Utd supporting friends don't feel your team has improved much considering all the spending.
We've spent like shit since Sir Alex retired. Why would that even be a question?
Casemiro has been a very good buy for Man Utd. £60m + add on assumed he can stay at top level for 3 years given his age, 20m a season is good. Whether Rice represents good value for Arsenal, we shall see.
I agree don't think Arteta's job is in danger in the immediate term unless something drastic happens. And IMO the reason we got an "easy ride" for choking is because everyone expected City to mow us down. We were overachieving and we knew it. It pretty much panned out the way everyone said - our squad is too young, too thin and City are too good.I feel if he still gets top four or even just misses out he will be able to successfully behind "young team". Look at this season, never have I seen a team blow such a title advantage get such an easy ride from both media and fans.
I actually worry we maybe going down the same route (using young team as a get out of jail free card) but then again I'm naturally cynical
Yeh, I was making the point that we've bought a whole new (and much improved) squad since Arteta arrived, while you've still got no striker and deadwood like Van de Beek in your team.
Thats the position Rice plays though.
That point makes no sense. Our coach is in his first season and has made a drastically better start than Arteta did. If you are comparing him against Ole, Ragnick and Mourinho that is just a hugely sad yardstick to try and measure success after your best season in ages.
I agree with you. But the initial conversation was about money spent, of which we've spent similarly in the last few years. I was making the point that we've done better with our half billion and actually overhauled our team.
It's obvious the biggest issue at United is your owners, which hopefully for you will find some conclusion soon (with Glazers leaving).
I understand you can split the costs over several years, but how are Arsenal all of a sudden buying Rice for a £100m and Havertz for £65m.
Are they selling or only buying those two players? Didn't think they had it in them.
Are they selling or only buying those two players? Didn't think they had it in them.
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