I'm talking about the use of the phrase having any implication on whether he though he was Irish/English.Who is taking it seriously?
You'd have to be a total Brexit voting marching with Farage type to be remotely upset about any of this.
I think the bigger story is how badly Irish fans have taken all this
Declan Rice | Switches international allegiance to England four years ago
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This logic doesn't really apply when it contradicts what he claimed he as feeling during those specific years though?
Why shouldn't certain Ireland fans take offence when it looks as if he blatantly insulted our intelligence? Look at how your lot treated Campbell after he jumped ship to Arsenal after claiming to be Spurs through and through. Now imagine you found anti Arsenal tweets in his history.
This forum gets jumpy because Pogba called Madrid a big club ffs! Never mind having our best young player literally abandon us to play for someone else.
It seems it's different for some fans because they benefited form this so are condescendingly telling others to get on with it.
I'm not even that riled up about it. I hope we turn away from players such as Rice so we can properly rebuild on solid foundations. Our squad needs a lot more than Rice so his loss won't even be that hard to replace.
It's simply funny that he got caught out this way. Although I do worry about the fan who trawled this out
now you're just asking for a batein'
There's more to Ireland dan dis.
Ah ok fair enough.
It will be the same people who got insulted about Irish fans rooting for Croatia in the world cup too
The stage is perfectly set for Sajid Javid to swoop in and rescind his British citizenship
My Irish mate regularly says "up the RA" as a joke when she's pissed. As someone else said, it's basically a meme
I fully expect him to appear on the couch with Alan Partridge next week.
I know the fella and yes it was
.Declan RAice
There we goI know the fella and yes it was
Classic bitter pathetic scouse behaviour. So predictable
If Declan Tweets this, everyone will love him...
Watched the Alan Partridge This Time episode last night with the Irish lookalike who starts singing the Black and Tan song... Perfect timing.
This is just funny, nothing else to it.
Don't think any of us really know what he was thinking. I live in the US at the moment, and he reminds me of proud Irish-Americans over here that constantly spout the same Up the RA sentiment but couldn't point to Ireland on a map. Always seems to me that they're trying too hard to prove their Irish credentials, which comes from an insecurity about the fact that they weren't born in Ireland. I'm guessing Rice's old tweets might come from the same type of insecurity.
Don't think the old tweets really mean much. I'm sure Rice then, and Rice now, probably feels both English and Irish.
Words that still conjure a feeling disappointment in context of the England team.
They are cursed and should never, ever be used.
True enough, couldn't help myself.
Oh christ the Peter Rubberpants booing. That was very smalltime.............
That was hilarious.
Digging up old tweets is pointless for me. We get no context and it was likely he thought he was have a conversation with friends who know him and not inadvertently posting a comment for the world to see.
He probably will get booed by the knuckle draggers and headbangers unfortunately.
Next Scott Parker.
He'll sign for a big club, warm the bench for a couple of seasons, missing the Euros or WC as a consequence, then end up playing for Palace
He'll sign for a big club, warm the bench for a couple of seasons, missing the Euros or WC as a consequence, then end up playing for Palace
Needs to wake up like a lot of others. In this day and age there is nothing private where social media is concerned, and there have been incidents like this going back years;it's hardly recent so there is no excuse for stupid posts.
People need to
If you think he's the next Scott Parker, you have no idea
Scott Parker was an example of how he'll end up.
See you in 5 years
What a stupid cnut
Oh dear, Declan, you've royally fecked it mate.
I find it interesting that so many are willing to give him a free pass, when if this was a British Asian supporting the Tailiban or Al-Qaeda, the reaction would be very, very different. White privilege, I guess, and JST BANTA.
As much as my McClean comment was fishing, I genuinely do think if messages of his came out with him saying "Up the RA", and he used the same excuse as Rice has, that he'd be battered in the press and by fans.
Oh well, he's "one of your own", innit.
Oh well, he's "one of your own", innit.
He was a child when he made those Tweets and as far as I know has never commented on the subject since.
McLean has very strong views on the subject and is a grown man, I can't imagine him making jokey Tweets about the IRA.
Its not really analogous is it. McClean already had a 'twitter storm' stating a Wolftones Irish rebel song as one of his favourites. His detractors already perceive him as anti-English and pro IRA headbanger so they'd probably take that as confirmation. Rice has no such history.
Looking at some of the English comments on Twitter and Rice has fallen foul of that crowd anyway.
Don't recall people saying that about Shamina Begum
I meant old tweets or FB posts or whatever from when he was the same age.
Not much of a yardstick.
There's still a big difference though, Rice has not said a single thing about the subject since whereas Mclean is more known for his views on this subject than he is for which club he plays for or how good he is.
I agree with all of this.
Also, I see no more talent in this kid than say, McTominay. The thing that's going for him is he starts for West Ham at 19. If he was 23 would anyone be talking about him? His technique is average, not as if we'll see some massive improvement. As someone said another Eric Dier. Really hope we aren't looking at him in the next transfer window.
Exactly this. The amount of people on Twitter who are sticking up for him and saying he made an error at 15, at the same clowns who have a club crest as their picture and 'Trump and Brexit' somewhere in their bio. Ask them their thoughts on the ISIS bride being allowed back in the UK having made 'an error' at 15 and they will be up in arms!
Both of them can do one - if you can't be held accountable for something you did at 15, then when do we actually become accountable for our actions?
Also, what's this nonsense about him saying it to try fit in? As if we're all going around saying "Up The Ra" in Ireland and pointing out the lads who don't ffs.
ffs.18 is the age in the when you are tried as an adult in a UK criminal court.