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There's a recent trend on telly of highlighting the amount of meters that a player has run, when he is substituted.

Does anyone know if it's possible to find out the average distance run/game for Premier League players?

I only ask 'cause I read in one of the papers (can't remember which one) that Michael Carrick had covered more distance than any other player in the Premier League, a couple of weekends ago (maybe the Liverpool game) This was a bit of a surprise to me and, IMO, sums up what an under-stated, yet effective, player he is. You never see him busting a gut but he never stops moving. When we are in possesion, he is always available for a pass and when we lose the ball he is constantly marking space ahead of the defence.

I would really like to see how the United central midfielders stack up but I'd also like to see some figures from the likes of Gerrard, Fabgregas, Flamini, Essien etc.

I've tried googling but am struggling. Anyone able to help this stats nerd out?
 
Sorry i cant help you there

I am surprised at that Carrick stat though, he just doesn't seem the most mobile player to be honest

then again your not exactly watching the same player for the entire 90 mins
 
There's a recent trend on telly of highlighting the amount of meters that a player has run, when he is substituted.

Does anyone know if it's possible to find out the average distance run/game for Premier League players?

I only ask 'cause I read in one of the papers (can't remember which one) that Michael Carrick had covered more distance than any other player in the Premier League, a couple of weekends ago (maybe the Liverpool game) This was a bit of a surprise to me and, IMO, sums up what an under-stated, yet effective, player he is. You never see him busting a gut but he never stops moving. When we are in possesion, he is always available for a pass and when we lose the ball he is constantly marking space ahead of the defence.

I would really like to see how the United central midfielders stack up but I'd also like to see some figures from the likes of Gerrard, Fabgregas, Flamini, Essien etc.

I've tried googling but am struggling. Anyone able to help this stats nerd out?

Its weird i couldnt find anything on this a few weeks ago. After the pompy match I heard nearly all their players broke their personal bests, feckers!!!
 
Best I could come up with was this, but it's 2 years old.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article722711.ece

Faster, fitter, stronger
Football fans thought Alan Shearer covered a lot of ground at his peak but he is left in the starting blocks by today’s stars of the Premiership
JONATHAN NORTHCROFT

It is 380 miles by road from Liverpool to Inverness, and by air from Liverpool to Paris, about as far as 15 marathons. What’s this got to do with football? Nothing, really, except it might help us get our heads round an athlete such as Steven Gerrard. Those 380 miles are roughly the distance Gerrard covered last season while playing for club and country, a 10th of it at sprinting speed or close.

Your eyes tell you the Premiership is getting faster, fiercer, more fatiguing and more furious. So do the stats. ProZone, the performance analysis system used by leading English clubs which uses video to detail every movement of every player in a match, every 1/10th of a second, has the numbers to demonstrate the lung-bursting nature of football in the modern era. Gerrard is among the most dynamic of today’s top players but he is less the exception and more the rule. English football is full of running men and the figures show the game continues to speed up.

ProZone has just completed the analysis of the 2005-06 Premiership season and the data is as eye-popping as one of Gerrard’s box-to-box bursts. The average distance covered by players in matches has changed little in the last four seasons but the amount done at top speed has almost doubled. What ProZone class as “high-intensity activities” — runs made by players at three-quarters of sprint pace or faster — have increased from 627 per team per match in 2002-03 to 1,209 in 2005-06, and the ground covered by players while sprinting has increased by 40% over four years. A sprint is classed as a run made at quicker than seven metres per second, equivalent to running 100m in a sharp 14 seconds.

It is not long ago you could play in the engine room of a major English football team and be like George Graham, whose nickname was Stroller. The old coaching instruction, “let the ball do the work”, may no longer be relevant. It is impossible to be a top player without hard labour. Compared with an England icon of just a few years ago, Alan Shearer, footballers such as Gerrard will cover three times the distance in a match at sprint pace. An analysis of a Gerrard performance against Arsenal last May showed the Liverpool player running 11.79km (seven miles, 573 yards for those who prefer things in old money) per game, with 1,070m of this at “high-intensity” pace. ProZone are yet to release individual data from 2005-06 but say Gerrard has further quickened since then.

Speed can be the enemy of subtlety, but not here. Not only is English football becoming more physically intense but the stats suggest it is also growing in sophistication. ProZone measure something called “final-third entries” — the number of times the ball is played or dribbled into the attacking third of the field — and discovered last season, although the game continued to become faster and there were more passes, that “final-third entries” dropped but without significant change in the number of goals and shots. This suggests more cat-and-mouse football is being played, with teams keeping the ball patiently in midfield before launching more sudden, selective and successful attacking strikes.

Such a style of play is felt to be continental, while dynamism and workrate are held to be homespun qualities. Are our sides playing a more effective “European” game while retaining age-old English advantages? This could explain how, in two consecutive seasons, sides from outside the Premiership’s top three have reached the final of the Champions League. “Our analysis indicates an interesting trend as it shows that while the game is getting quicker, teams appear to be more probing and patient,” said ProZone’s Barry McNeill. “It appears that teams attack either with pace and purpose or following a prolonged period spent testing the opposition’s defence. The tactical approach of absorbing pressure and counter-attacking, increasingly popular in the modern game, has undoubtedly affected both the total distance covered in terms of a team’s defensive workrate, and the high-intensity workrate when attacking.”

In 2005-06, midfielders were measured as the Premiership’s hardest-working players, with right midfielders, such as Gerrard, the most energetic of all. The average ground covered by those in this position, 11.49km per game (seven miles, 246 yards) was not too far short of the figures for Gerrard. Centre-backs did the least running but even they averaged a fraction under 10km per match. Right midfielders also did the most fast running, an average of 147 heart-thumping “high intensity” bursts per match and covering 310m flat out. More managers are joining the likes of Steve McClaren and Sir Alex Ferguson as ProZone users. Monitoring players’ output offers clues as to who needs to be dropped, rested or used differently.

ProZone even have a contract to monitor referees. “We’re working closer than ever before with more teams at all levels of the game, assisting the improvement of not just the physical fitness of players but also how the coaches shape the tactical and technical aspects of a team's approach,” McNeill said.

The average recovery time Premiership midfielders enjoy between “high-intensity activities” in games is 40 seconds. As a manager he’d have loved all this sweat, but it makes you wonder how Stroller the player might have coped.

Key statistics

In 2005-06, the average right-sided midfielder covered 11.49km per game, more than any other position He also made 147 fast-paced runs, 44 being flat out sprints with an average recovery time of 39 seconds between activities The least active players were centre-backs, who covered 9.96km per match On average, a striker had four shots per game, a central midfielder 45 passes and centre-backs 21 headers and 33 interceptions, the highest for each category
 
The average distance covered by players in matches has changed little in the last four seasons but the amount done at top speed has almost doubled.
Now that's an interesting stat. I'd like to know if this development is also found in other top European leagues or limited to England, and if it has anything to do with the increasing English domination in the CL.
 
Within the team those stats are pretty dumb since the most movement is made by central midfielders. They'll need to go all directions and constantly move whereas central defenders and strikers can have periods of hardly moving.
 
Within the team those stats are pretty dumb since the most movement is made by central midfielders. They'll need to go all directions and constantly move whereas central defenders and strikers can have periods of hardly moving.

Agreed. But useful when it comes to comparing CMs from the same team.

I would be very interested to see how Carrick, Hargreaves and Anderson compare against each other - not really fair to drag Scholesy's aging limbs into the debate ;)
 
It doesn't give yo the stats but ti does give a full explanation as to how the stats are achieved..

How Stats Are Achieved

There is also the Prozone website which is basically the site where the prodcut can be bought from, but due to the fact that it is for sale I doubt very much that the stats will be found online, could be wrong though.. Isn't it Ciderman who knows the best place to get stats etc from??
 
Can't find anything, but I did find this.

2008 FA Cup Fifth round Manchester United Vs Arsnal.

Player tracker.





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Anderson 10.2km


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Michael Carrick 12.4km


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Darren Fletcher 2027km
 
:lol: I laughed out loud at school when I saw that. Brilliant.
 
Don't know about Carrick, but Fletcher covers the most distance in almost every European game he plays.
 
Fecking hell Hairdryer :lol:

Anyway, I digged this up to ask if anybody knows some place to find distances covered by our players in previous matches.
 
I remember that Beckham and Giggsy ran in their prime close to 15km per game.. Now that's pretty good..
 
Flamini used to cover 14 to 15 kms every CL game last season.

I saw Lampard's stats once...was around 8 to 9.
 
He was a human dynamo, to be fair.

Who's going to be doing all that leg-work for you this season? I can't see Denilson putting in anything like that kind of a shift.

It's unfair to expect an 18 year old to shoulder the responsibilty of a midfield like our when he's playing alongside players like Eboue and raw 'talent' like Walcott and a Premiership newbie.

However, he was woeful beyond any words in the first 2 games and I don't expect him to do any better here on. His passing was abysmal....quite disappointed with him really. Even if he couldn't provide the legs, his technical ability should have no question marks on it. Unfortunately, there are now.
 
I think Denilson is raw as anything but he might yet blossom into a top player. The thing is, even if he does, I don't see him ever providing the same energy that Flamini provided.

I don't actually see anyone in your squad who will run and run all day long. A Darren Fletcher/Hargreaves type midfielder, if you will.

Genuinely curious as to who will do this for Arsenal this season. Maybe Bischoff? Or Ramsey??
 
From an article about Bolton:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/bolton/article4493273.ece

“The distances Premier League players cover have been going up gradually; the spectacular increase is in the high-intensity work they do every game. Over seven seasons we’ve seen Bolton players’ high-intensity activities rise 160%.

Defence the average Premier League centre-back runs 10km during a match, 700m at ‘high intensity’ (speeds above 75% sprint pace); full-backs run 10.8km (1.05km at high intensity).

Midfield central midfielders run 11.6k (1.1km high intensity); wide players run 11.6km, (1.3km high intensity).

Attack forwards run 10.5km (1.05km high intensity)



I haven't seen recent detailed stats for United players and I don't think there are many current stats kicking around for free. I remember some things like Carrick and Fletcher ususally being top of the most metres covered. And I remember one manager (Allardyce maybe) talking about the defender stats and variation across matches saying that - "whoever's marking Ronaldo" will cover the most "high intensity" metres.

Another article that mentions us in passing, this one about Villa:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/aston_villa/article3646334.ece

When Villa played United in the FA Cup in January, Barry covered more ground (12.04km) than any player other than United’s Michael Carrick (12.17km). Of his teammates, only Olof Mellberg, playing at full-back and tracking Cristiano Ronaldo while trying also to push forward, covered more distance at high intensity (713.4m compared to Barry’s 545.3m at speeds in excess of 21kph).
 
Maybe this belongs in another thread, but do you know how I can build the same sort of stamina?

Its not the same as running on a treadmill for 90 minutes at a constant pace, is it? I suppose you need to do lots of different sprints and all for 90 minutes
 
Maybe this belongs in another thread, but do you know how I can build the same sort of stamina?

Its not the same as running on a treadmill for 90 minutes at a constant pace, is it? I suppose you need to do lots of different sprints and all for 90 minutes

No idea - but there are a couple of entertaining, even for coach potatoes like myself, articles by the fitness coaches on the united website:

Advice for amateur players
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={6DDFCB6E-3471-4E45-9385-F04D05F4A70D}&newsid=508024&page=1

Some stats on PL players:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={6DDFCB6E-3471-4E45-9385-F04D05F4A70D}&newsid=6615003&page=1
 
Maybe this belongs in another thread, but do you know how I can build the same sort of stamina?

Its not the same as running on a treadmill for 90 minutes at a constant pace, is it? I suppose you need to do lots of different sprints and all for 90 minutes

Stamina is probably different for different people. I'm blessed with loads, and my body structure and weight is such that it's ideal for long distance runs and that's why I can pretty much run all day.

I suppose you can build it by exercising consistently. Run everyday for atleast half an hour(build it up slowly day by day) and do some good breathing exercises which will help you while running. To me, when I run, my breathing is very important too and there's some yoga you can do to improve your lung capacity if I'm not mistaken. I;m not expert though and I've never sought help for building my stamina. I've loved running for as long as I can remember....I suppose that counts too...you can't not love running on a football field, waiting for the ball or running into position for it, at the same time thinking of ten different things and passes all of which magically disappear when the ball is to be received and you seem to know exactly what to do with it :)
 
i think those "how much did a player "thins are bullshit.
i remember in the last euro in the game between Turkey and Croatia they showed that the turkish keeper had run 5 and a half km,how is that even possible.
 
Stamina is probably different for different people. I'm blessed with loads, and my body structure and weight is such that it's ideal for long distance runs and that's why I can pretty much run all day.

I suppose you can build it by exercising consistently. Run everyday for atleast half an hour(build it up slowly day by day) and do some good breathing exercises which will help you while running. To me, when I run, my breathing is very important too and there's some yoga you can do to improve your lung capacity if I'm not mistaken. I;m not expert though and I've never sought help for building my stamina. I've loved running for as long as I can remember....I suppose that counts too...you can't not love running on a football field, waiting for the ball or running into position for it, at the same time thinking of ten different things and passes all of which magically disappear when the ball is to be received and you seem to know exactly what to do with it :)

Ah hell. I love running into position, just that over the years my stamina's been shit. five minute player. shame, i could be so much better if only i was fit.
 
From an article about Bolton:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/bolton/article4493273.ece

“The distances Premier League players cover have been going up gradually; the spectacular increase is in the high-intensity work they do every game. Over seven seasons we’ve seen Bolton players’ high-intensity activities rise 160%.

Defence the average Premier League centre-back runs 10km during a match, 700m at ‘high intensity’ (speeds above 75% sprint pace); full-backs run 10.8km (1.05km at high intensity).

Midfield central midfielders run 11.6k (1.1km high intensity); wide players run 11.6km, (1.3km high intensity).

Attack forwards run 10.5km (1.05km high intensity)



I haven't seen recent detailed stats for United players and I don't think there are many current stats kicking around for free. I remember some things like Carrick and Fletcher ususally being top of the most metres covered. And I remember one manager (Allardyce maybe) talking about the defender stats and variation across matches saying that - "whoever's marking Ronaldo" will cover the most "high intensity" metres.

Another article that mentions us in passing, this one about Villa:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/aston_villa/article3646334.ece

When Villa played United in the FA Cup in January, Barry covered more ground (12.04km) than any player other than United’s Michael Carrick (12.17km). Of his teammates, only Olof Mellberg, playing at full-back and tracking Cristiano Ronaldo while trying also to push forward, covered more distance at high intensity (713.4m compared to Barry’s 545.3m at speeds in excess of 21kph).

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As threatened in the United forum, I thought it might be worth bumping this thread. For those with an interest in the kind of data those stats analysts and sports scientists that the clubs are employing these days are looking at.

First, some comments from Ipswich´s fitness coach.
Football training: the demands of the game and the attributes required for specific football positions

And a rather interesting reminder of something that we as fans choose to forget but which players and coaches have to take seriously.
Football - Nutrition advice for Football Players
"It has been shown that short periods of intense exercise (e.g. less than 15 seconds), when interspersed with rest periods of similar duration, produce a fairly low build-up of lactic acid in the muscles (a strong indicator of fatigue) even when this activity pattern is continued for some time. However, periods of intense exercise of about 30 seconds or more, even when accompanied by equal rest periods of 30 seconds (such that the work:rest ratio is till 1:1 as in the previous example), produce a far higher concentration of lactic acid in the muscles and also greater fatigue."

So next time you scream at the winger or the fullback about him trudging back slowly after a sprint, spare a thought for what he's been ordered to do. :lol:
 
I wanted to say that jojojo when I saw this thread had been bumped. It pains me to see distance covered used solely as a basis to a players commitment. Try sprinting in 1:1 work/rest periods for 500 meters, then try jogging for 1000 and the 1000 meters is clearly easier.

To be fair, commentators these days do often say "But a lot of that would have been covered in sprints" which is good of modern commentary.
 
Bumping this thread to add in the interesting (to me) link peterstorey used in the Messi thread, I like being able to find all this stuff at the same time - says statto geek.
peterstorey gave a google book link to:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZcIdPGtNqToC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q&f=true

Bringing it to the PL level, this is from http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/foo...equired-for-specific-football-positions-41457


The following statistics are provided by ProZone:

Full backs Total distance covered 11.22km
High intensity distance covered 1130m
Sprint distance covered 350m
Number of high intensity activities 157
Number of sprints 54

Centre backs Total distance covered 10.32km
High intensity distance covered 764m
Sprint distance covered 211m
Number of high intensity activities 112
Number of sprints 33

Wide Midfield Total distance covered 11.70km
High intensity distance covered 1390m
Sprint distance covered 430m
Number of high intensity activities 182
Number of sprints 63

Central Midfield Total distance covered 11.73km
High intensity distance covered 1144m
Sprint distance covered 302m
Number of high intensity activities 169
Number of sprints 49

Attacker Total distance covered 10.72km
High intensity distance covered 106m
Sprint distance covered 351m
Number of high intensity activities 142
Number of sprints 51

Note: attacker = either the ‘target’ or ‘channel man’

Key to figures

Distance covered, from walking to sprinting in 90 minutes
High Intensity >5.5 metres per second
Sprints > 7.0 metres per second

These stats do not show that players will change direction over 1,000 times and turn (over 120 degrees or more) 450 times a match. Also not shown is the time between each high intensity effort ¬– this is on average 60 seconds for centre backs, 32 seconds for fullbacks, 34 seconds for wide midfielders, 36 seconds for centre midfielders and 39 seconds for centre forwards. Also not shown is the number of tackles and jumps etc made. These are very important factors because turning, twisting, changing directions, jumping and tackling take a lot out of players physically.