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Do we extend Ole's contract?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I think best way is to back him with the transfer targets and see where he takes united by the end of January and decide then whether to extend his contract or not.
Shocking decision if it happens. Tuchel was attracted to Chelsea on a shorter contract than what remains on Ole’s current contract. Ole has a contract till the end of next season and he’s not going anywhere. Let’s wait and see how next season goes.
Be in no doubt, no other club is going to go for him, so why offer a 3 year contract when you don’t have to. OGS is not a top quality coach, his record is unremarkable at best and being an ex united player under Sir Alex Ferguson does not make you good manager. OGS is a decent person and would de a good understudy to a head coach only, no other club in the top half of the premiership would have him so Why should United.
I don't see the point in extending has contract right now. It's not like any other top shelf club would be trying to poach him.
Doesn't winning the biggest title in Europe defines better a coach's hability rather being second best in the best football league in Europe?
Especially that Chelsea is no way City's caliber, and honestly is not far of United. Their main strength is Kanté. Their defense performed better, but out attack crushed theirs. Chelsea spent big but most of their players were not up to the promises.
Tuchel led an arguably worse team from 9th to 4th, and CL glory in half a season.
Ole had a clearly superior team against Villarreal and lost in the end. No matter how you cut it, Ole had the better team and players and should've won it.
The point is that in one off games anything can happen, good luck, bad luck, terrible ref calls, etc. If the better team on paper always won then football would be incredibly boring to watch. Meanwhile in a league campaign that goes over 38 games, those things tend to even out so its usually a better reflection of a teams (or managers) performance
I think this article is a decent summation of how some of us feel about Ole
https://onfootball.substack.com/p/solskjaer-has-done-the-job-he-was
https://onfootball.substack.com/p/solskjaer-has-done-the-job-he-was
Promote this man as long as he promises to post stuff like this every day.
In the grand scheme, the cost of having to sack Ole after giving him a new contract is not a big deal.
The club is essentially asking Ole to manage the club with a long term view. Letting his contract run down would not be in keeping with the present club ethos.
Therefore, new contract inevitable but also sensible.
The club is essentially asking Ole to manage the club with a long term view. Letting his contract run down would not be in keeping with the present club ethos.
Therefore, new contract inevitable but also sensible.
post more often, mate.Having him sign a new contract would be the clubs way of showing we're also a stable environment for potential new signings, that we've got a plan and we know what we're doing. To be fair if it goes to shit, no matter how long is left on the contract, the Glazers will pay the price to bin him, so it doesn't matter in that regard.
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Great article illustrating the concerns with his ability to improve the collective nature of the squad.
just being facetious tbh.The thread has gone beyond the ridiculous into outright hysteria, I felt i might as well join in fer a bit since opinions and views have long since been banished in favour of name calling and bickering.
Meh, bring on the Euros so we can all start arguing over which is more hideous, grealish' sleazy haircut or southgates 2D head?
Anyone else think if it were to be done, it would have been done already? Feels like a long delay for what should otherwise be a straight forward transaction, so may be they are considering all other options. Pochettino looks unsettled and there has long been mutual interest there, Zidane and Conte are available, with Conte putting out feelers for the job before he went to Chelsea.
I quite honestly don't know how you can turn your nose up at a manager who won three consecutive champions leagues.
All about timing. If we'd won the EL, it would have been announced before that week ended I think. Now it's about waiting for the right moment.
That's a very good article and this is the key paragraph.
I don't see any progression in that area since he joined.
This. Ole isnt here for the money so its not like hes going to turn the club down if there isnt a huge severance pay in the contract. IIRC, Jose got something like 15 million when they sacked him, which of course is a monumnetal amount of money for us mere mortals, but is really peanuts for a club like United
The thread has gone beyond the ridiculous into outright hysteria, I felt i might as well join in fer a bit since opinions and views have long since been banished in favour of name calling and bickering.
Meh, bring on the Euros so we can all start arguing over which is more hideous, grealish' sleazy haircut or southgates 2D head?
Agreed. Can't wait for Euro. Always rooting for England, although no ties to the country. Just because United and EPL.Not sure if the Talk Sport YouTube clip has been posted on RedCafe, but I agree with Alex Crook's sentiment on Ole.
I'll support England due to being English, but now I think I just watch for the inevitable embarrassment.
It's like partridge or the office, unbearable but I can't stop.
Personally, I'd give him a 2 year contract because I don't think the uncertainty of having a manager in his last year would be good for making further progress. if this team doesn't show improvement next season, you then only have to pay off an extra year of his contract.
Saying that, knowing this club, they will give him a 3 or 4 year contract because Ole has been our best manager, post-Fergie, at securing a top 4 spot.
Saying that, knowing this club, they will give him a 3 or 4 year contract because Ole has been our best manager, post-Fergie, at securing a top 4 spot.
Jardím’s a decent manager no? I don’t really get why he’d be used as an example here. Seems a weird comparison.
Thats not the point. Having uncertainty about the managers contract breeds insecurity both within the squad and potentially on the transfer market.
If they include severance pay in the new contract its not like that sum is going to bankrupt the club either
Yes god forbid should not tying Ole down longer alter our strategic approach in the transfer market which included last summer of
1) Spunking 40m on a midfielder who has hardly played
2. Signing a free agent striker on deadline day who was available a couple of months earlier
3. Signing a couple of youngsters who have hardly featured and one who is already on loan
This is a thread I had assumed both sides of the Ole debate would actually be united about:
If you are Ole out, the answer is no. Why should there be any rush? Ole himself this was not a successful season, he will have another go and then we can reassess.
If you are Ole in, the answer is also no. You believe in Ole long term but are expecting better next season in cups and a closer league challenge. If he does well, renew the contract then, if he doesn't then the search for a new manager begins.
Surely this is the easiest answer in any United thread? Just because you don't renew it now, doesn't mean you can't renew it later. There is no rush whatsoever here.
If you are Ole out, the answer is no. Why should there be any rush? Ole himself this was not a successful season, he will have another go and then we can reassess.
If you are Ole in, the answer is also no. You believe in Ole long term but are expecting better next season in cups and a closer league challenge. If he does well, renew the contract then, if he doesn't then the search for a new manager begins.
Surely this is the easiest answer in any United thread? Just because you don't renew it now, doesn't mean you can't renew it later. There is no rush whatsoever here.
Agree with you. Hasnt Ole said many times he makes the final decision on players coming and going? Tuchel is a far better manager and if the roles were reversed we would have the EL and Ole semi final/final losers probably.
Why the need for hyperbole, it does absolutely nothing to strengthen your case in regards to Ole?
What makes him 'not a very good manager'? I would have reservations about him for sure, and I wouldn't have him on my list of potential candidates to replace Ole - but he's certainly shown himself to a good manager. Most people's reservations are in regard to how he would adapt outside the sphere of Real Madrid.
Furthermore, would you say any non-United fan would take Ole over Zidane? And if you think Zidane isn't very good, what are your opinions on Ole?
Are you implying last seasons calamity in the market had anything to do with Oles contract? We fecked up the Sancho deal, and by spending all summer on it we basically had no time left
Seen that clip on youtube and wholeheartedly agree with Alex. De Gea not saving a penalty in 7 years in the PL and Ole decides to stick with him for a final penalty shootout.
Absolutely insane.
Yes, three years.
Probable virgin.I would prefer not to sack ole for someone who like Zidane who hasn't shown what we need which is tactical.
I mean I get he has won the CL 3 times in a row and La Liga. lets say, I think Poch is a better manager even though he hasn't won much.
In respects to Ole, I would keep him at the moment because there is no clear alternative.
People calling for Conte but then it means we scrap what we are building
You do understand players sign on for projects, yes?
No the opposite.
No. They do sign on contracts, mainly for wages and bonuses. Ole is far from a guarantee to win anything, thus is hardly a better proposition than Klopp, Pep or Tuchel. United are a top 4 project under Ole.