Crerand? Really?If we brought for arguments sake Vardy or Keane, then Lukaku would become the reserve striker. For me Lukaku is not the way forward when we play at the higher level of the premier league and certainly not at European level.
Without looking up his goal scoring figures I think he has managed a total of 16 league goals, ( I stand to be corrected on this ) but if this is the case then he is not exactly tearing up tree trunks, it is what I would expect from a middle of the road Premier league striker.
Sir Matt expected at least 20 goals per season from his centre forward, and the two inside forwards, plus around ten from his two wingers in an average season. Not saying they achieved it every season but those were the standards to aim for.
This season we have managed around 68/69 although conceded around 27/28, which is very good, however the goals for in my opinion is poor. For me Lukaku is not the type of player who can create his own goals, but is dependant on others too supply that final pass. What we require given that at this moment in time our mid field and full back/ wingers lack the ability on many occasions to make that decisive pass is a striker(s) who can create their own opportunities.
Perhaps I have been spoilt, having been able to see some of the very best of Utd., players from the 1956 side all the way up to recent teams. Paddy Crerand a wing half of class, saw him play a diagonal ball from right to left a full 70 yards to George who did not have too check his pace to take the ball on his left foot, result a goal. This was not the exceptional pass but the norm. Now we have Young and Valencia if they hit a accurate pass 1 in 10 it is applauded, is it a wonder that our striker(s) have in my opinion such a poor scoring rate.
Not sure he'd want to be a backup at this stage of his career, but Dzeko's a great shout if we try to sign a player of that profile. I was delighted when City sold him although sadly their replacements have been pretty decent.I think we do
Llorente has played 29 games this year for Spurs, primarily as a backup to Kane
But who would you sign?
I think Dzeko would be a brilliant signing.......
I can't either, no reasonable striker of quality would wanna waste his time on the bench unless we give him obscene wages.I cant imagine Vardy or Dzeko wanting to sit on our bench
Martial and Rashford were given 9 league matches between them up front. They managed 3 goals and 2 assists between them in those matches. While it isnt great, its not that bad considering they're played out of position on a weekly basis. And significantly better strikers are unlikely to want to sign and play 9 league matches a season and even if they were, I dont think that'd help Rashford and Martial develop
Nobody sees the need anymore because everyone is obsessed with playing a 4-3-3 or some version of just playing 1 striker. I definitely think we should have more strikers in the squad and should be playing with 2 strikers for almost every game. Why we insist on playing a 4-3-3 against small clubs is a head scratcher to me. Are Matic and Pogba not good enough to win the midfield battle against teams outside the top 6? We should be dominating teams and scoring more goals and with one striker our attack is too isolated. Give Lukaku a strike partner and I guarantee we will score more goals and be more deadly on the counter attack...I think we do, for chasing game or when Lukaku is in his (big games) period.
We used to have FOUR strikers, rotating for 2 spots. And in our Treble season, we had Solksjaer and Sheringham, who contributed to us winning the Champions League. And those back ups were all seasons pro.
To my surprise, not many see this need when listing those 6 new players thread. Who'd be suitable and available? Discuss.
Agreed. Even when we had one striker system with Ruud, we had Solskjaer, Forlan/Saha as backup; and that's with Rooney/Scholes as a second striker who could bang in 20+ goals.Nobody sees the need anymore because everyone is obsessed with playing a 4-3-3 or some version of just playing 1 striker. I definitely think we should have more strikers in the squad and should be playing with 2 strikers for almost every game. Why we insist on playing a 4-3-3 against small clubs is a head scratcher to me. Are Matic and Pogba not good enough to win the midfield battle against teams outside the top 6? We should be dominating teams and scoring more goals and with one striker our attack is too isolated. Give Lukaku a strike partner and I guarantee we will score more goals and be more deadly on the counter attack...
It's a win win situation for United. We'll have two strikers eager to prove themselves.Jamie Vardy would be a very useful addition to our squad imv. Whether he would be a back-up for Lukaku or cement himself as no. 1, would remain to be seen.
Not all strikers have to be bullies, that is just what Jose likes, a big brut up top throwing his weight around instead of his football ability. If you look at the best strikers out there not all are bullies, e.g Aguero, Salah, even Kane. Martial has football intelligence and incredible footwork, doesn't need to bully unless your main objective is to hoof the ball forward.Can he be a CF? Become a bully, or brings others into the play?
Kane and Aguero are definite bullies. They can hold up against (and harass) any centerback in the league. I don't know why you think otherwise.Not all strikers have to be bullies, that is just what Jose likes, a big brut up top throwing his weight around instead of his football ability. If you look at the best strikers out there not all are bullies, e.g Aguero, Salah, even Kane. Martial has football intelligence and incredible footwork, doesn't need to bully unless your main objective is to hoof the ball forward.
If Jose didn't have his head up his ... and rotated players we wouldn't have this problem but he doesn't, the fact that we always only play with one striker doesn't help matters either. When he does give someone a chance he is shocked they don't perform up to standard seeing they have warmed the bench more than anything else. Personally I think we don't have to worry about Martial any more he will be gone in the summer, the question is who he will buy to replace him and if the new purchase will put Lukaku on the bench like Sanchez did with Rashford and Martial.
That's another solution to Rashford. I'm sure plenty of clubs are willing to take him on loan. It's a win-win for the player and the club(s).technically yes so we could let Rashford go on loan and get 30+ starts at 9
not sure how that would work though- it would almost be like denoting Rashford from squad player to Youth prospect
I'd have Vardy here in a heartbeatJamie Vardy would be a very useful addition to our squad imv. Whether he would be a back-up for Lukaku or cement himself as no. 1, would remain to be seen.
So we're agreed on that then!I'd have Vardy here in a heartbeat
Well then we have a different opinion about a striker being a bully. Then in actual fact any striker/s can hold their own against defences are bullies.Kane and Aguero are definite bullies. They can hold up against (and harass) any centerback in the league. I don't know why you think otherwise.
All strikers we had in the past under Fergie were bullies also; although they did it more subtly. Mark Hughes, Ruud, Rooney, Tevez, RvP. You may question Andy Cole, Berba and Saha, but they were all further from softies (except maybe Berba who at the end, didn't last long).
No. We need to trust the process of developing Martial and Rashford. A fully rested Alexis next season will take care if any short fall in goals Lukaku's absence can causeI think we do, for chasing game or when Lukaku is in his (big games) period.
We used to have FOUR strikers, rotating for 2 spots. And in our Treble season, we had Solksjaer and Sheringham, who contributed to us winning the Champions League. And those back ups were all seasons pro.
To my surprise, not many see this need when listing those 6 new players thread. Who'd be suitable and available? Discuss.
Who the fcuk is AC9. Seriously talk that this should be a banning offenceAC9, he's English, a real handful for defenders, the perfect replacement for Fellaini.
England’s AC9Who the fcuk is AC9. Seriously talk that this should be a banning offence
Are you on about Andy Carroll, because I'm pretty sure he won't be making any England squads.England’s AC9
Are you on about Andy Carroll, because I'm pretty sure he won't be making any England squads.
Or there is Alex O-Chamerlain, but he is not big or a 9.
Or Aaron Creswell, also not a 9.
Either way, cut the crap. It's as annoying as people referring to shots in a button like way from computer games. Or rating players with football manager stats.
This all just needs to stop.
There is nothing obvious about Andy Carroll and signing for United! Or Andy Carroll for England or ever being good enough to get the 9 shirt for any half decent team.The only option is Andy Carroll which is obvious.
