Because in midfield it is easier to get found out than defence and the stakes are higher.
Does anyone else think we might not buy a midfielder this summer.....
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Spot on. Of the lads we are lsoing only Gibson is sure to be replaced by Cleverly. We can't afford to not replace Scholes and it would be wise to get in back up for Fletcher, as Hargreaves replacement
There are a couple of internal improvements we can hope for:
Fletcher returns to the form of 09/10 when he was in the premier league team of the season.
Anderson carries his home form over to away games, and improves generally.
Both of these hopes are realistic and would lead to a clear improvement in midfield. Obviously not enough to compete with Barca, though.
Fletcher returns to the form of 09/10 when he was in the premier league team of the season.
Anderson carries his home form over to away games, and improves generally.
Both of these hopes are realistic and would lead to a clear improvement in midfield. Obviously not enough to compete with Barca, though.
No, it isn't. You make mistakes in defense, you concede. Higher stakes.
Its more to do with trying out people who you think are good enough. In any position. I'm sure our untested youngsters will get their shot once they're ready.
No, because none of them have made a single senior appearance yet.
Many promising players prove how difficult the next step is - Welbeck, Cleverley and Macheda are amongst the current crop - so there's no way we'll risk all on three players who are unproven, inexperienced and don't have the quality we need at this time.
That's really all there is to it, for me.
Big mistake if we dont
Maybe in the context of the forthcoming season but in the long run it'd bring the likes of Cleverley, Pogba, and Ravel on a great deal. Everyone uttered the same sort of stuff when SAF sold Ince, Hughes, and Kanchelskis and replaced them with talented player's from the youth ranks who at the time were unproven potential. That didn't pan out too badly did it?
Is winning the league every season realistic? No is the answer. So if SAF feels the player we need isn't within reach at the moment and has faith in the young talent we have coming through to fulfill their potential in the coming season's if not next, who are we to argue?
You only buy if the player is right and the price is right, if neither is the case, there is no point buying for the sake of buying when we've such a nucleus of talented lads awaiting their chance and who in most cases look a cert to make it at the top level.
Fergie is 70 later this year, he's not going to just twiddle his thumbs hoping all three come through while titles pass him by. Also these three are not the same as Becks, Scholes and co, they are 4 years younger, Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe need a lot more development before they are ready for the first team squad.
I agree, but neither is SAF going to splurge inflated sums for the sake of it. If we miss out on a primary target like Modric, there is no need for him to go and buy the next cab off the rank, he's never worked that way as we've seen in the past when missing out on the likes of Benzema and Villa, instead he persevered with what he had or found a much cheaper, younger, unheralded player to come in and develop and fill the role he wanted to address.
I also agree that those young lads(with the exception of Cleverley) are probably a season or so away from being part of the first team picture, but if there is nobody out there available or available at a reasonable fee, then I don't see why giving them an opportunity would be such a terrible thing, unless of course you're spoilt and can't accept the odd season of relative failure due to transition.
I only think we need one to make up the numbers assuming Gibson follows Scholes out of the club.
I have aways said and I still believe we already have this midfielder so many seem to crave in Anderson.
Next season he can become an automatic choice
I have aways said and I still believe we already have this midfielder so many seem to crave in Anderson.
Next season he can become an automatic choice
The only thing i'd say about the youth, is that if one was selected I would have no worries about it, what so ever. The reason is simple. Sir Alex isn't a mug. The talent is there. If it was about talent alone, there wouldn't be much to debate. The potential is here.
Yup, I've the utmost faith in the lad and the fact Scholes has hung his boots up may just be the push he needs to become more consistent and fulfill his potential. He improved a great deal last season IMO but consistency is the one absentee from his makeup thus far which I think/hope will become a thing of the past this coming season. Fergie obviously shares our belief in him aswell comsidering he gave him a new contract last December and was raving about his impact upon returning to fitness at the back end of the season.
I'm sure he has more than one iron in the fire, my feeling is based off his words about needing to bring in a proven player when the likes of Scholes and Giggs move on, in order to balance out the great youth he has coming through. The big problem here and in the media is that they can't see past the two big names they keep linking us with, fortunately I am sure Fergie is better prepared than that.
If you look at the path taken to the first team by Cleverley I think we see the pattern for development, so I'd say a couple of loan spells for regular playing experience lie ahead for the three midfield prospects, they will most likely be the legacy he passes on, rather than star men for him IMO. I don't see why you ask the question about being spoilt, I don't expect to win everything or indeed anything each year, but I do think money should be invested into our midfield to give us the best competitive chance under Fergie's remaining years, and I believe it will be.
No big secret that our midfield being our weakest link shall need strengthening. The question is how and who.
Scholes, Hargreaves and Gibson out. New player, Cleverly and Pogba in perhaps?
We have the talent in our youth ranks, no doubt about that but we need to get atleast on decent CM. Our midfield last season was overran by many mid-table teams as well and that was really painful to watch.
I'll be stunned if we don't stengthen
You go back a year on here and we talked about our midfield and berbatov being the key areas of improvement
Berbatov was fantastic at times last season but our midfield ws a real problem area away from old Trafford with us not controlling games and being dominated by lesser teams
Cleverly will do well but I think it's at least a year and probably two years early for tunnicliffe, pogba and Morrison
We will sign at least 1 midfield player
You go back a year on here and we talked about our midfield and berbatov being the key areas of improvement
Berbatov was fantastic at times last season but our midfield ws a real problem area away from old Trafford with us not controlling games and being dominated by lesser teams
Cleverly will do well but I think it's at least a year and probably two years early for tunnicliffe, pogba and Morrison
We will sign at least 1 midfield player
The difference between now and the mid 90's, is that the level of the PL has gone up and teams like us have less games in which they can field untried youngsters.
we shouldnt worry about the lack of activity....
its the way we do business - i think we've only been active so far with Jones and Young as we had to with other clubs in for them
i wouldnt be surprised if we've already agreed to sign someone or if we are currently negotiating a deal with someone which will be announced closer to 1st July
If Modric is/was an option then he isnt the only one - our management and scouts will have identified over 10 suitable midfielders i imagine
its the way we do business - i think we've only been active so far with Jones and Young as we had to with other clubs in for them
i wouldnt be surprised if we've already agreed to sign someone or if we are currently negotiating a deal with someone which will be announced closer to 1st July
If Modric is/was an option then he isnt the only one - our management and scouts will have identified over 10 suitable midfielders i imagine
Giggs, Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick, (Gibson)
Morrison, Pogba, Tunnicliffe
For me is not enough for the Champions League and for the Premier League too
it be absolute madness if we don't after hargreaves been released and scholes retirement...
i cant see us signing any central midfielders.
I had a feeling this would get bumped today, it's been a quiet day on the transfer front. Personally I wouldn't have minded not buying a midfielder if we thought one of the youngsters were ready, but they haven't travelled to America so I don't think that's the case. I don't really know what Fergie has in mind, but maybe Young or Jones have been bought for midfield.I cant see us signing Sneijder, Narsi, or Modric. That doesnt mean we wont strengthen. Fergie likes to bring in young talented prospects. I think he'll sign someone, but dont be surprised if we're all scratching our heads and using youtube to figure out who it is
I believe that Fergie likes to give the impression United could compete for anyone's signature , but wouldnt want another Veron situation. When he invests he likes it to be on someone who has a sell on value, someone he can nuture into a top player. Someone who wont upset the rest of the squad by coming in with an attitude problem.
I believe that Fergie likes to give the impression United could compete for anyone's signature , but wouldnt want another Veron situation. When he invests he likes it to be on someone who has a sell on value, someone he can nuture into a top player. Someone who wont upset the rest of the squad by coming in with an attitude problem.
I personally dont think we need to buy a top name central midfielder. I think the players with have can do a job and we clearly had the most solid and creative midfield last season. I think we should spend the money on another winger and a goalkeeper or throw a big thankyou party for the Glazers.
Nasri wouldn't cost a fortune mind...and can do it in this league.
We're not even half way through July FFS.
We're not even half way through July FFS.
We're not even half way through July FFS.
We're not even half way through July FFS.
We're not even half way through July FFS.
I'm beginning to think we wont be signing another player this summer, the reasons being City for going after a player we might want, and the Glazers have no money.
I dont think we'll sign another player ever as it pisses down all time in Manchester and all the girls are fat, ugly and wear long black baggy jumpers.
Not this time.
We have enough young talents in that department who may break through in the near future like Cleverly or Pogba. Anderson's still pretty young as well.
Fergie also mentioned that they saved money for the day the likes of Scholes and Giggs retire to get in some established players.
I'm pretty sure we will sign someone and it will be a well known player.
We'll buy one - may not be one of the 3 currently being headlined.
Fletcher still on the mend, Giggs age and then you have the departures of Scholes, Hargo, Gibson and even O'Shea who could play there, just don't see how he won't at least get 1 reinforcement in CM.
Also, am convinced last couple seasons, he's not bought a top CM simply because he some how was convinced that Hargo would pull through and now that hasn't happened, he'll definitely look to buy quality rather than potential.
Fletcher still on the mend, Giggs age and then you have the departures of Scholes, Hargo, Gibson and even O'Shea who could play there, just don't see how he won't at least get 1 reinforcement in CM.
Also, am convinced last couple seasons, he's not bought a top CM simply because he some how was convinced that Hargo would pull through and now that hasn't happened, he'll definitely look to buy quality rather than potential.
The club have been so proactive and quick in tying down some great talent for our future, I find it impossible to believe that Fergie would ignore the need for a CM.
Just be patient - it will happen.
Just be patient - it will happen.
Agreed. Giggs wont play 50 games, neither Anderson will this season and I cannot see Carrick and Fletcher start almost every game. Not to mention that in some games we play with 3 central midfielders...
So if someone of the 3 most muppetted players - sneijder, nasri or Modric - does not arrive, I m sure fergie does have a plan B, which might involve a less known and perhaps less muppetted player
I'm interpreting these most recent comments from Sneijder as preemptive to the inter fans "its not my fault I was sold"
We'll certainly be looking to sign a midfielder. With Scholes gone, we certianly wouldn't have let Gibson go (even though he hasn't gone yet) if we weren't dead serious we wanted another midfield player. Can we get who we want? Obviously no one can answer that, as no one can be certain who we want. But it's not a case of thinking we're fine in that area and not needing to sign someone.