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It feels like his dream / ambition was getting to Real Madrid, but not playing well for them.
Weird one.
Weird one.
On that basis John Obi Mikel was better than many great midfielders due to his performance in the 2012 final.I think Bale's 2015-2016 season is better than anything Hazard's produced in a season.
As for the team argument for more iconic moments in the CL - Bale had 2 performances vs Inter(when he was at Tottenham) that eclipse anything Hazard ever did in the CL as well.
You missed where I said I think Bale's 2015-2016 season is better than any of Hazard's?On that basis John Obi Mikel was better than many great midfielders due to his performance in the 2012 final.
I was referring more to the Spurs version of Bale sorry should have made that clearer.You missed where I said I think Bale's 2015-2016 season is better than any of Hazard's?
The Inter games were mentioned to dispel the notion that Bale's iconic moments in the CL were all because he played for Real Madrid.
I don't think Bale at Spurs was better than Hazard at Chelsea, but he still had 2 performances that were better/more iconic than any of Hazard's in the Champions League.I was referring more to the Spurs version of Bale sorry should have made that clearer.
I'll accept his CL record for Real makes him better in the overall picture but not a snowball in hells chance was the Spurs version better than him.
They aren't rated because they can/could dribble, they are rated because of everything they brought to the game. And yeah, there's a tendency to overrate dribbling.Nah, he’s a quality player. Maybe not the most consistent in the PL (and obviously has had a nightmare in Spain thus far) but at his best he’s a tremendous talent
This is such an ignorant post. I can’t put it any more nicely than that, I’m afraid. People overrate players that dribble? What you mean like Pele, Maradona, Messi, Cruyff and George Best? All overrated of course.
Please stop it. Dribbling is a very difficult thing to do effectively, which is why players that can do it well are rated.
I think it’s already there when you consider they paid big-ish money for him and the fact everybody assumed he would be awesome for them.On the way to Top5 worst transfers of all-time.
Worst one I've ever seen is Essien, he was genuinely lower league standard come the very end.Is this worse than Sanchez level decline? At least United got him on a free!
What happened to him in the end and why? He was greatWorst one I've ever seen is Essien, he was genuinely lower league standard come the very end.
Madrid and barcelona probably have the top 5 worst signings covered in the last few years itself.On the way to Top5 worst transfers of all-time.
His injury's took away his agility and lateral movement and he unfortunately didn't have the level of technique to compete at this level without his athleticism.What happened to him in the end and why? He was great
Multiple catastrophic knee injuries that he rushed back from - did he ACL twice and I believe both times came back within 6 months.What happened to him in the end and why? He was great
His injury's took away his agility and lateral movement and he unfortunately didn't have the level of technique to compete at this level without his athleticism.
Yeah alot can be down to injuries and the nature of them. I'm interested to see how VVD returns as he may lose some of his key attributes.Multiple catastrophic knee injuries that he rushed back from - did he ACL twice and I believe both times came back within 6 months.
Fati is the other one I'm quite concerned about - they took the whole meniscus out of his knee apparently; that dramatically accelerates decline in joint function.Yeah alot can be down to injuries and the nature of them. I'm interested to see how VVD returns as he may lose some of his key attributes.
Jesus really? I didn't know. That's very young to have that injury. Usually hits in your 30s. I wonder if there's clear growth/technical issues that have caused that.Fati is the other one I'm quite concerned about - they took the whole meniscus out of his knee apparently; that dramatically accelerates decline in joint function.
The bigger issue there is probably Jovic's massive flop.Reading from Sid Lowe that Casemiro is Real's second highest goalscorer this season really brought home just how big a void Hazard flopping has created in the team. It really is Benzema or nothing in terms of attacking threat.
I suggested this but it enraged peopleCL record for Chelsea:
Hazard: 8 goals 11 assists in 2928 minutes
Willian: 10 goals 8 assists in 2944 minutes
If we subtract penalties:
Hazard 4 goals 11 assists in 2928 minutes | 195 minutes per G/A
Willian 10 goals 8 assists in 2944 minutes | 163 minutes per G/A
Maybe Hazard always was a bit of a flat track bully against PL fodder?
Yeah apparently the joint just didn't recover properly so they've had to take drastic measures - could be due to an underlying physical or inflammatory issue? Hard to say but regardless quite worrying.Jesus really? I didn't know. That's very young to have that injury. Usually hits in your 30s. I wonder if there's clear growth/technical issues that have caused that.
Although players you mentioned have quiet games too, who doesn't?. Most people have RVP ahead of Hazard in premier league legacy and he spent most of his time in the premier league injured the same thing Hazard getting stick for now. Not sure what David Silva did to get ahead of Hazard.He was absolutely brilliant at Chelsea, but I wouldn't say top 3 in the last 15 years in the PL. Personally. For me, Ronaldo, Rooney, Bale, Aguero and David Silva all rank above him.
However, he wasn't always the most super-focused guy, was he? As good as he was, there were a few periods where he did tend to go missing.
He was allowed that leeway at Chelsea, because of what he brought more often than not.
I was one of those, though, who was pretty sure the Madrid transfer would fail for him.
Perhaps injuries did play their part, but I never saw him being a success.
Playing for Manchester United or Real Madrid, the pressure is huge. You are under constant scrutiny and the higher your fee, the greater the criticism. Especially, amongst Madrid fans and media.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but at Chelsea, while being the main man, I don't think the pressure was ever as great as what he'd have to face at Madrid.
Injuries didn't help, but I never saw that move being a success.
Your prob right, although i thought they played him as a no10 last night because they played a back 5 to match us. Dont Madrid usually play 433? Hazard then goes back on the left.He's also lost a step, so its made it harder for him to get past players from the flanks, which is why they've tried to employ him as a 10. His career is in trouble.
Go back in time and sell them to Ed.So Real have Bale and Eden on their books. How are they going to get rid of both players?
Even Ed wouldn’t bite that bait mateGo back in time and sell them to Ed.
It has genuinely been that way ever since Ronaldo left. The two biggest goalscorers after Benzema since 2018 are Ramos and Casemiro. Bale could never stay fit/actually bother to play; Isco and James never materialised into players good enough; and the young core of Vinicius/Rodrygo are yet to bring that consistency to their game and provide solid G/A's.Reading from Sid Lowe that Casemiro is Real's second highest goalscorer this season really brought home just how big a void Hazard flopping has created in the team. It really is Benzema or nothing in terms of attacking threat.
Maybe it's hindsight, but Jovic just seemed like a strange fit for Madrid from the start. Not proven at the highest level, neither in the "worth a punt" or "worth it for the name" price range and ye seemed to give up on him almost immediately. Ben Yedder was on the market the same summer for 20 million cheaper if Real just wanted a stopgap while sizing up Mbappe.The bigger issue there is probably Jovic's massive flop.
Hazard needed to generate some assists.
The true depressing stat is that Hazard was RM's 6th highest goalscorer, only two goals off 4th and 5th.Reading from Sid Lowe that Casemiro is Real's second highest goalscorer this season really brought home just how big a void Hazard flopping has created in the team. It really is Benzema or nothing in terms of attacking threat.
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