Ederson - Atalanta Midfielder | no recent links to United

flappyjay said:
I think this is sensible. Signing players that have a weakness and then trying to sign another player to make up for the 1st players weakness has been a running theme over the past 10 years. A Manchester United midfielder should be a good passer of the ball.
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Honestly, it’s baffling how our scouting department has consistently overlooked the need for a proper deep-lying playmaker. Season after season, we've ignored what’s become an obvious gap in midfield. The last player we signed who could genuinely dictate the tempo with top-level passing was probably Pogba—and even that was hit and miss. I’ve left Bruno out of that category deliberately. He came in as a pure No. 10, not someone tasked with building play from deep. Same goes for Eriksen initially, though to be fair, he adapted well when dropped into a pivot alongside Casemiro.

But let’s be real—we haven’t had a true metronome in midfield since Michael Carrick. Someone who reads the game, controls the rhythm, and progresses the ball from deep under pressure. To Ten Hag’s credit, he clearly saw the problem and pushed hard for Frenkie de Jong. And even going back to 2013, Moyes tried to bring in Kroos before things fell apart. For whatever reason—budget, timing, lack of vision—it just hasn’t happened.
 
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
 
M Bison said:
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
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EXACTLY! Our fans tend to hype up players that are not ours. Sometimes wanting us to get rid of good players for average ones, someone on the last page suggested we send Ugarte to Atalanta for Ederson. I am not saying Ugarte is the answer but the guy has been here for a season, a season where the team was the worse it has ever been. I remember last season when alot on here said Caicedo was a waste of money in his first season now all of a sudden the consensus is he is a great player.
 
M Bison said:
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
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As you said, they are different players really. If you put McTominay in a defensive role in midfield he can do a job but he’s way better the further forward you put him. Play him as a 6 and it’s a bit uninspiring.

I’ve not seen enough of Ederson to say if he’s good enough but I can see the point in getting a proper athletic midfielder in the side who wins tackles and and presses the opponent (I still have a hope that Ugarte can do this as well but he has to prove it)
 
flappyjay said:
You have answered the problem to the ederson and ugarte midfield right here. If players in attacking positions have to come deep to make things happen you already have problem. It gives the opposition defence a chance to settle. Atleast one of your midfielders ideally both should be able to progress play on a consistent basis.
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Well no because that is how the system works, when I say come deep I mean just dropping in to a space between attack and midfield to recieve a ball which then creates space behind them by pulling a CB or Fullback with them leaving the space for our wingback or Cf. That is how we are supposed to play but currently aren’t good enough or have the players to do it.

Or The 4 mentioned also have the ability to turn and beat someone. It’s kind of the whole point of buying someone like Cunha. Ederson and Ugarte can both pass the ball and any semi professional player should be able to find the space out on the wing behind the defence for our wingbacks.

Hence why I don’t really think we’ll be looking for a more static ball passer. We’ll probably be looking for someone who can go both ways with intensity.

Think it’s all ready been mentioned we are looking for pace, power and athleticism. Ederson fits all those. There is also talk of trying to work on Kobbies athleticism and stamina so he can fit in the system more.
 
Goldbridge is spouting on his tiktok page that Man Utd are ready to agree a £46m deal to sign Ederson and he states it is coming from Fabrizio Romano
 
With the now under €40 million availability, how’s he been playing this season? Must be a target, as we’re in dire need of a mobile midfielder.
 
He was never that good in the first place and now he’s outside of Gasperini’s magic he looks even more average.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He was never that good in the first place and now he’s outside of Gasperini’s magic he looks even more average.
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The previous admin seem to have an obsession in spending silly money for Atalanta players. I wonder howuch influence Atalanta's director of global development had into it
 
No credible links to him now, but he’s a player I would like us to sign. He looks a well rounded CM that would improve our athleticism and offer us something our current options doesn’t (granted being able to adapt to the PL from Serie A).

I’d say that bringing him in January and optimally Anderson in the summer would be good choices!
 
If he’s another player who’s great at running but can’t do anything with the ball then it’s a pass.

So sick of us prioritising midfielders who can run over technique and passing ability.
 
Berbasbullet said:
If he’s another player who’s great at running but can’t do anything with the ball then it’s a pass.

So sick of us prioritising midfielders who can run over technique and passing ability.
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When was the last time we got a midfielder who was good at running?
 
Hammondo said:
When was the last time we got a midfielder who was good at running?
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Herrera, Fred, Ugarte I would say all fall into that category.

I know you’re going to say Ugarte isn’t a runner, but by runner I mean a midfielder who is a disrupter v someone who can control the game. I didn’t make my point that clear.
 
Berbasbullet said:
Herrera, Fred, Ugarte I would say all fall into that category.

I know you’re going to say Ugarte isn’t a runner, but by runner I mean a midfielder who is a disrupter v someone who can control the game. I didn’t make my point that clear.
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Ugarte doesn't come close, he's a very poor runner, it might be his main weakness.

I get your point though, but players who control the game are far more rare.
 
Hammondo said:
Ugarte doesn't come close, he's a very poor runner, it might be his main weakness.

I get your point though, but players who control the game are far more rare.
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Yeah I’d settle for a midfielder that isn’t afraid of the ball, and can turn in midfield.
 
Nope. Stick to PL proven for the midfield role. Obviously, the club will have to pay more but by going for somebody who knows the league and its demands, it is much closer to guaranteed production, especially in the short term.
 
Berbasbullet said:
If he’s another player who’s great at running but can’t do anything with the ball then it’s a pass.

So sick of us prioritising midfielders who can run over technique and passing ability.
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I don't think we are now. Links with Anderson, Wharton and Baleba. Plus Stiller and the Valencia lad.
 
Ww should get Anderson or Wharton and another midfielder from a different league, cheaper.
 
VP89 said:
Who doesn't!
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I dunno, we seem to be chasing PL proven guys like Baleba, Wharton and Anderson. I think someone like an Ederson would be a really smart buy and I hope we get in there before Liverpool. I can't really see many other sides going for him. Most PL sides prioritized that position and are set there.

The only options in the PL I'd think are us and Liverpool. I hope we get in ahead of them.
 
We should try to get Gallagher in now - he is probably available for a small fee, and he wont need adjustment. Then 2 more in the summer - this guy should be one of them we should go for
 
lysglimt said:
We should try to get Gallagher in now - he is probably available for a small fee, and he wont need adjustment. Then 2 more in the summer - this guy should be one of them we should go for
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I haven’t followed Gallagher since his move to athletico, I hope he’s kicked it up a level if we are looking at him.

I find it immensely frustrating that we would be looking to get the same player who Mainoo displaced for England at the euros all things being equal.
 
We keep getting burnt with average players from Italy etc...

I'd rather we pay over the odds for Premier league proven than take the risk on a Brazilian that might hate the weather and fail to get up to speed with the league. Ugarte has been one of the most ridiculous signings we've ever made because we sold a decent squad player to fund his transfer.
 
Ederson has had a mediocre season. His levels have dropped off so why are we paying more than what we offered last year. If we get a cut price deal it makes sense. Not otherwise. What we need is a Wharton type profile who can carrick those balls into the forwards.



 
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