Ederson - Atalanta Midfielder | no recent links to United

flappyjay said:
I think this is sensible. Signing players that have a weakness and then trying to sign another player to make up for the 1st players weakness has been a running theme over the past 10 years. A Manchester United midfielder should be a good passer of the ball.
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Honestly, it’s baffling how our scouting department has consistently overlooked the need for a proper deep-lying playmaker. Season after season, we've ignored what’s become an obvious gap in midfield. The last player we signed who could genuinely dictate the tempo with top-level passing was probably Pogba—and even that was hit and miss. I’ve left Bruno out of that category deliberately. He came in as a pure No. 10, not someone tasked with building play from deep. Same goes for Eriksen initially, though to be fair, he adapted well when dropped into a pivot alongside Casemiro.

But let’s be real—we haven’t had a true metronome in midfield since Michael Carrick. Someone who reads the game, controls the rhythm, and progresses the ball from deep under pressure. To Ten Hag’s credit, he clearly saw the problem and pushed hard for Frenkie de Jong. And even going back to 2013, Moyes tried to bring in Kroos before things fell apart. For whatever reason—budget, timing, lack of vision—it just hasn’t happened.
 
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
 
M Bison said:
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
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EXACTLY! Our fans tend to hype up players that are not ours. Sometimes wanting us to get rid of good players for average ones, someone on the last page suggested we send Ugarte to Atalanta for Ederson. I am not saying Ugarte is the answer but the guy has been here for a season, a season where the team was the worse it has ever been. I remember last season when alot on here said Caicedo was a waste of money in his first season now all of a sudden the consensus is he is a great player.
 
M Bison said:
Reading this thread it makes me distrust the club and scouting department even further. McT wasnt good enough for us but Ederson is? I appreciate they're different types of players but do we really believe this guy will thrive in Prem when McT apparently struggled? Not a chance, hope to be proven wrong but doubt it.
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As you said, they are different players really. If you put McTominay in a defensive role in midfield he can do a job but he’s way better the further forward you put him. Play him as a 6 and it’s a bit uninspiring.

I’ve not seen enough of Ederson to say if he’s good enough but I can see the point in getting a proper athletic midfielder in the side who wins tackles and and presses the opponent (I still have a hope that Ugarte can do this as well but he has to prove it)
 
flappyjay said:
You have answered the problem to the ederson and ugarte midfield right here. If players in attacking positions have to come deep to make things happen you already have problem. It gives the opposition defence a chance to settle. Atleast one of your midfielders ideally both should be able to progress play on a consistent basis.
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Well no because that is how the system works, when I say come deep I mean just dropping in to a space between attack and midfield to recieve a ball which then creates space behind them by pulling a CB or Fullback with them leaving the space for our wingback or Cf. That is how we are supposed to play but currently aren’t good enough or have the players to do it.

Or The 4 mentioned also have the ability to turn and beat someone. It’s kind of the whole point of buying someone like Cunha. Ederson and Ugarte can both pass the ball and any semi professional player should be able to find the space out on the wing behind the defence for our wingbacks.

Hence why I don’t really think we’ll be looking for a more static ball passer. We’ll probably be looking for someone who can go both ways with intensity.

Think it’s all ready been mentioned we are looking for pace, power and athleticism. Ederson fits all those. There is also talk of trying to work on Kobbies athleticism and stamina so he can fit in the system more.
 
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