Socialist is a bit too mild term for him.Wait. You're a socialist ? Ahh I see now
Not just charitable. Most likely, surely?the most charitable interpretation for him is that he is extremely naive and is donating an insignificant amount to people who actively resist efforts to save the planet in order to get them to take his calls where he talks about how climate change is real and they ignore him and continue doing exactly what they were doing before.
Agreed.Not just charitable. Most likely, surely?
The rest of your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.
So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
how is that most likely? It's far more likely that he gives money to both sides in order to get them to leave his businesses aloneNot just charitable. Most likely, surely?
The rest of your post is just hating a billionaire for what billionaires do. Which is fair enough. That’s your perogative. As billionaires go, Musk’s likely legacy puts him miles ahead of almost all of his peers in terms of having a positive affect on the world. So it just comes across as a bit predictable and unfair to single him out for your bile. If you care about the future of the planet anyway.
So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
Locking down a crazy fortune without giving a shit about anyone else is exactly what hes doing bu the way. That's literally what having twenty billion dollars is. He laid off people making five figures a month ago yet is worth twenty billion dollars. He does not give a shit about anyone but himself .So long as billionaires exist (and they’re not going away any time soon) the world needs more billionaires like him and less like the anonymous 1%ers locking down crazy fortunes for their progeny, without giving a shit about anyone else.
You keep screaming into the void, dude. Whatever works for you.how is that most likely? It's far more likely that he gives money to both sides in order to get them to leave his businesses alone
And I haven't singled him out in any way. All billionaires are thieves and bastards
Keep carrying water for people who dont care if you live or die whose direct existence harms the lives of thousands of people not fortunate enough to grow up as a rich white man in apartheid south Africa, dude. Whatever works for you.You keep screaming into the void, dude. Whatever works for you.
To have a voice at the table. With Republicans as well as Democrats. In an absurd political system where the only way to get heard by these political parties is to give them lots of money.Keep carrying water for people who dont care if you live or die whose direct existence harms the lives of thousands of people not fortunate enough to grow up as a rich white man in apartheid south Africa, dude. Whatever works for you.
Tell me what you think the most likely explanation is.
People used to say the same shite about bill gates. The idea that unless elon gives all his money away as he earns it that he's scum doesn't hold much weight.Locking down a crazy fortune without giving a shit about anyone else is exactly what hes doing bu the way. That's literally what having twenty billion dollars is. He laid off people making five figures a month ago yet is worth twenty billion dollars. He does not give a shit about anyone but himself .
Why didnt Jews just donate to the nazis?To have a voice at the table. With Republicans as well as Democrats. In an absurd political system where the only way to get heard by these political parties is to give them lots of money.
He doesnt earn it. Workers create wealth and it is siphoned off to a few people at the top because of the way our system is structured and manipulated by those with money and power.People used to say the same shite about bill gates. The idea that unless elon gives all his money away as he earns it that he's scum doesn't hold much weight.
Godwins Law. Nice and early too. Good one.Why didnt Jews just donate to the nazis?
Your point was that donating to people in power made them listen to you. I'm pointing out how that isnt the case.Godwins Law. Nice and early too. Good one.
Not sure what that’s got to do with a post about the American political system?
You're being ridiculous now.Why didnt Jews just donate to the nazis?
Exactly. It doesn't influence policy, it just makes friends that are convenient for corporations.How much influence does 40k realistically buy you? All big business donate to all big parties... I don't think 40k would get you a seat at a table in a political landscape that spends billions a year.
Why didnt they? It would get them a seat at the table. If einstein had donated $16,000 he could have gotten reinhard heydrich to listen to what he had to say.You're being ridiculous now.
Drink a cold glass of water, count to 100, and read the nonsense you have been posting here.Why didnt they? It would get them a seat at the table. If einstein had donated $16,000 he could have gotten reinhard heydrich to listen to what he had to say.
Engage in the discussion or feck off. The analogy makes perfect sense.Drink a cold glass of water, count to 100, and read the nonsense you have been posting here.
Didn't know Hitler was fond of lobbying to be honest.Engage in the discussion or feck off. The analogy makes perfect sense.
Why didn't X just donate a small amount of cash and get Y to change a fundamental belief about themselves and everything they stand for?
Because it was a racist regime that believed and started to implement the total extinction of the Jewish race? You see a little difference here?Engage in the discussion or feck off. The analogy makes perfect sense.
Why didn't X just donate a small amount of cash and get Y to change a fundamental belief about themselves and everything they stand for?
Neither are the Republicans. They truly believe everything they say on climate change. Their base believes it. Their much larger donors believe it.Didn't know Hitler was fond of lobbying to be honest.
Republicans are absolutely commited to the ideaology that climate change is a hoax. You see the similarity here?Because it was a racist regime that believed and started to implement the total extinction of the Jewish race? You see a little difference here?
No. It's lunacy to compare those two situations.Republicans are absolutely commited to the ideaology that climate change is a hoax. You see the similarity here?
From Godwins law to a text book straw man in consecutive posts. Internet arguing 101.Your point was that donating to people in power made them listen to you. I'm pointing out how that isnt the case.
Republicans are fanatically opposed to any idea that climate change is happening or that it is caused by human activities. The idea that someone who donated $38,000 is going to cause Republican politicians to go against their position, the position they ran on, the position of their supporters and the position of corporate interested donated far more is absolutely absurd.
Right. The evidence is in their platform moving ever more to the right.If he's paying for a voice at the table to have the GOPs ear on climate change and other issues affecting humanity he's getting royally ripped off
Because the buying of political power/influence was one of the major charges against the Jew by the Nazis. Doing so would have been futile and used as evidence that the Nazis were correct in their assertions.Why didnt they? It would get them a seat at the table. If einstein had donated $16,000 he could have gotten reinhard heydrich to listen to what he had to say.
There is no point on engaging on the debate when you're points are:Engage in the discussion or feck off. The analogy makes perfect sense.
Why didn't X just donate a small amount of cash and get Y to change a fundamental belief about themselves and everything they stand for?
Its absolutely not helping. Scott fecking Pruitt ran the EPA. Rex Tillerson was secretary of state. They are taking his money and laughing while they spend it on adding to the Pacific trash flotilla.From Godwins law to a text book straw man in consecutive posts. Internet arguing 101.
Obviously, I never said or implied any of the above. I said it gives him a voice at the table. Presumably this is important to him for the good of his business. And his business seems to have two main priorities. Making money (like every other business, ever) and driving a cultural change away from fossil fuels and onto renewables.
Throwing a few grand at a repellant political party seems a small price to pay to help the latter bit.
He was rich as a kid (he wasn't
The fundamental point is:There is no point on engaging on the debate when you're points are:
- He got raised on an apartheid regime, so he's evil.
- He was rich as a kid (he wasn't).
- All billionaires are evil.
- I hope he dies.
- Why Jews didn't gave money to Nazi.
It is a pretty idiotic discussion to engage on. The IQ drops with every post.
I’ll bow to your greater knowledge here (not being sarcastic, I’m clueless about US politics) but he must think that the money will help his agenda. And then we’re onto whether or not we think his agenda is worthy enough to justify giving the Republicans a relatively insignificant amount of money if it might help that agenda. Which seems to be something we won’t ever agree on, so am happy to leave it here.Its absolutely not helping. Scott fecking Pruitt ran the EPA. Rex Tillerson was secretary of state. They are taking his money and laughing while they spend it on adding to the Pacific trash flotilla.
It is. But his agenda isn't the bluster about saving humanity. It's to enrich himself.but he must think that the money will help his agenda.