That's clearly not out.
England in India 2021
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If you take away the soft decision it looked like it bounced to me.
edit. I’d be annoyed if that went against an England batter.
edit. I’d be annoyed if that went against an England batter.
Yeah same. But they should have looked at more angles.
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Is my eyes deceiving or was that clear not out?
Root intimidating the umpire though, clearly learning from Kohli.
Root intimidating the umpire though, clearly learning from Kohli.
Was quick for sure. Seems right in end.
Root absolutely right to have a go there.
If the zoom shows it not out, fair enough. But the fact they only showed two replays was shocking.
If the zoom shows it not out, fair enough. But the fact they only showed two replays was shocking.
Not out from the angle given but should have checked more angles surely?
You need the behind angle for that one he's clearly got his fingers around it before the ball obscures them. There's no way you can tell from the front that they're not underneath it.
Btw, not sure why England having a go at the on-field umpire here. He gave it out!
England have given up on the cricket and are going all out trying to be the victims here.
That replay of Stokes laughing like he had been wronged
That replay of Stokes laughing like he had been wronged
Agreed. To overturn the soft signal there you need to be looking at far more angles. Far too fast a decision made & possibly what the England boys were complaining about.
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There's no chance there's a finger below the ball. Right decision was made.
I don't think you need another angle if you're convinced the one you're seeing shows you it's been grassed. You need another angle to be sure in case of the otherwise. And the trajectory of the ball, the brief moment when it grazed along the surface, him picking it up - all of it was apparent to me from that little replay.
I think this one would have been annoying with Pujara's catch being given so early hardly an hour ago.
I think this one would have been annoying with Pujara's catch being given so early hardly an hour ago.
From whatever replays were shown it clearly looked like it touched the ground.
India monster score incoming...
Fans are amazing. They will complain if 3rd umpire waste time on decision but will complain when they don't. Poor from Stoke .. that sarcastic clap after literally lifting it from ground.
Look at that sudden bounce.
Exactly this, it's that the 3rd umpire isn't using all the camera options as are done in other countries. That's the problem. The fact that England perceive to be on the receiving end of the majority is debatable.
No fan complains if there is a legitimate reason to take time on a decision. No fans would complain if the decision is made quickly if obvious.
I think the Stokes decision was correct, but due to the soft signal being out they should have shown more angles.
Why? If they could see it bounced from the first replay, why show more angles ?
It makes no sense.
All umpire had to do was to roll one frame more. It looked like it bounced but next frame it's rolling on grass.
Stoke knew about it and still did sarcastic clap.
Was quite short replay for viewers to get that decision. Took couple more to see that left hand not being under the ball.
Every other nation shows more angles/information. Especially on soft signal overrules.
Guess it's cumulative frustration.
England will feel that India have prepared two dodgy pitches and that the majority of decisions have gone their way. The fact that England still had two reviews at the end of their innings shows how many umpire's calls there were.
Not saying they're right, but that will be the reason.
Even if the first replay is conclusive? If they do, they are wasting time. The only reason you should check multiple angles is if you cant be sure and are looking for the best possible view.. If the first replay shows it bounced, looking at a side on angle where the view is obstructed by other slip fielders does nothing.. even looking at another angle that might have a better view does nothing.. If its that clear, any more angles is utterly pointless.
Definitely, yes. No doubt the are riled at a combination of their own failings and their/the perception they aren't getting the rub of the green, so to speak.
Fine but at least show these angle(s) briefly. Again every nation does this, it's about going through the deemed correct process. When you have one nation doing things differently to others, using their own umpires, it provides fuel to the opposition quarters searching for blame.
Wait.. they renamed Motera the Narendra Modi stadium
What a man .. Adani end too..
Jay Shah going on camera and praising his father and Modi for the stadium..
This is like a bad joke.
What a man .. Adani end too..
Jay Shah going on camera and praising his father and Modi for the stadium..
This is like a bad joke.
Who has deemed it the correct process? If the Pujara catch was given out without any further replays, I would understand your point.. This was as clear as they come. If anyone looks and that and things it needed more replays, they should get their eyes checked.
If people want to complain and look to play the victim card, go ahead.
Just returned after two hours of calls.
I see things have not improved.
I see things have not improved.
England should be more worried about their batting than pitch, umpires or anything else. That was a shambolic batting performance and some really good bowling.
Yes. How many times does the third umpire check for a knick on the ball when making an LBW decision even when it's obvious the ball has missed the bat? Pretty much always..
Every other Test nation who do it that way. It's about following the pattern & doing what others do. Just extend the replay, let it run a bit longer or show another to be as conclusive as possible.
Some elements of the English fraternity will do that, why give them the opportunity? Just give them as much evidence as possible is all I'm saying. Do what all the other Test nations do.
Talking about this thread?
Guess what the other end is calledWait.. they renamed Motera the Narendra Modi stadium
What a man .. Adani end too..
Jay Shah going on camera and praising his father and Modi for the stadium..
This is like a bad joke.
More that one angle was used for the Leach dismissal.... Kind of makes my point.
Curious to see if we try and force this now and lose our discipline.
Or if India counter attack a bit.
Or if India counter attack a bit.
If there is a big gap between bat and ball, they dont.. if its that obvious, they dont need to.
If its close, they have technology which can overrule what the eye sees with the snicko. There is no such tech for catches.. That first replay was as conclusive as it can get.
It was as conclusive as possible. Showing worse angles wouldnt help.
That's my entire point.. it was as clear as you need it to be to make a decision. No other replay or angle can overrule that..
edit: this is boring. I think it was clear from the replay and I cant see what the issue is. I really have nothing to add to that.
I mean, all it takes is one 25-30 partnership from the top order here and England will lose their heads.