charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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What's Walker done to be dropped?
End of the day, he is just making up numbers. Doubt he will play any game, unless Southgate wants to give him some token mins. Maybe it's also to send message that if player is playing well, they will be called up no matter for which club they play. It should give lot of motivation for other English players playing for smaller clubs.Maguire was called up at 24. Good shout with Trippier though. I’m actually surprised that he didn’t get called up for England until after two seasons with Spurs and an impressive debut PL season with Burnley. Feels like he’s been around forever.
Even with these “underdog” players, it seems like they’ve always been on the radar though. Trippier played through all underage levels and even Maguire was capped by the U21s back in 2012. Mings seems so random because he’s never, ever looked like playing for England at any level. Before now, the only talk of him playing international football has been with Barbados.
Good luck to the guy, but it’s got a bit of the Jay Bothroyds about it.
Have his best 8 months as a City player . Excellent in the 14 game winning run at the end of the season and performing well early doors since the arrival of competition in Cancelo.What's Walker done to be dropped?
Found himself in breach of the 'no bald players' rule.What's Walker done to be dropped?
You can't possibly want Tarkowski in over Gomez. And Barnes isn't of much use to England. Were you calling for Glenn Murray to be included last season too?Have his best 8 months as a City player . Excellent in the 14 game winning run at the end of the season and performing well early doors since the arrival of competition in Cancelo.
Meanwhile, Gomez and the Ox have featured in 6 PL games since in the last 9
months between them (through injury), but waltz back into the squad at the expense of in-form players like Tarkowski and Barnes (who cannot represent Austria because his citizenship application was rejected).
And then there’s Lingard...
How he played in the nations league....Found himself in breach of the 'no bald players' rule.
I felt if he had good games Spurs, Arsenal, and Liverpool he would be a contender for making the squad for games against Czech Republic and Bulgaria. However, against Arsenal he had the lowest passing accuracy in his team apart from the goalkeeper, the second least amount of touches. Against Spurs not only did he have the lowest passing accuracy of any outfield player, it was lower than 60%. His midfielder partner managed more aerial duels, more tackles, and significantly higher passing percentage. Those that have actually watched him have stated some of his passes have been baffling even misplacing passes from 10m away, or struggling with passes under no pressure.Longstaff can't be far off given his style of play versus our needs.
Southgate said he's just experimenting and has explained to Walker why he's not in the squad.Walker is the best right-back out of all of them. Shocking he's not included.
Lingard? Haha
First of all i have written that Foden hasn't played for Manchester City therefore he shouldn't get a call-up.So Foden should be in the squad but Dier shouldn't based on minutes.
He always picks three right-backs....this time i thought he would pick even four right-backsHe is taking 3 rb's?
How quick we are are to ignore players, Wilson is only 27 and a much more rounded forward at this point than Abraham. Abraham continues to score goals for fun against championship standard defences, still very much question marks over his all round game and ability to play against the better teams.No call-up for Walker makes still no sense
No words to Lingard...just
Mings is actually a good decision.
But Wilson instead of Abraham makes me angry too.
I'm on the "Tammy Abraham train" since few years and Wilson will be never good enough to start a important game for England......just my opinion but if Kane and Rashford are injured then i would rather see Hudson-Odoi/Sterling/Sancho than Wilson in the team.How quick we are are to ignore players, Wilson is only 27 and a much more rounded forward at this point than Abraham. Abraham continues to score goals for fun against championship standard defences, still very much question marks over his all round game and ability to play against the better teams.
I have no problem with the players he has picked this time round (At least he has not picked Delph this time) and likewise he has a generally good track record at who he has picked while as England Manager, my problem rather is the players that he does not pick.There is never a perfect squad picked.
Nelson I suggested because he is literally the next best winger we have (A case could be made for Townsend, just not a very good one) with Hudson-Odi being injured. I mean if Southgate was not being such a fool over this he could have had the option of both Zaha and Bailey as well, but since he let those opportunities pass he is literally the next best option. Especially when putting Rashford/Lingard on the wing is a bad idea.That said I look at some of the names suggested and really....guys like Nelson and Morgan Gibbs White aren't starting and in any case they didn't set the world alight in the under 21 tournaments
Agreed, he should have been called up for the Nations-League Play-Offs at the very least.James Maddison is the fresh call up that makes complete sense, time to get him involved with the seniors in an area where England struggle to create from open play against elite nations.
For the record; I felt that while they had an easier draw than most, that time around they capitalised on it (when in the past we have failed to do so) and thus performed far better than what we expected of that squad. Something that Southgate should deserve credit for, especially when Spain was also in the same position as we where, had a far better squad (on paper) and yet...they got knocked out by Russia of all teams...Still Gareth Southgate is getting results that eluded many previous managers. Cue the fluke draws posts but he is getting to semi finals when many in the past couldn't. Keep up the good work Sir.
Agreed. Shaw is ridiculously overrated on here. Sloppy defensively and terrible going forward.@Red Keane Rose and Chilwell aren't our best 2 left backs currently fit they are the best 2 left backs full stop
Mount -> AOC for meDeffo go with
Sterling Kane Sancho
Maddison Winks Chamberlain
Chilwell Maguire Gomez TAA
Pickford
Mount for the Ox. Really not a bad side tbhDeffo go with
Sterling Kane Sancho
Maddison Winks Chamberlain
Chilwell Maguire Gomez TAA
Pickford
Is it, from the squad more than 50% were called up when they played for outside top 6 clubs.Im all for giving young players a chance. But Kyle Walker being dropped make no sense. AWB has bright future. But if he didnt move to United would he have been picked ahead of Walker? People now saying Tammy Abraham should be on the squad. But would they been saying that if he played 4 PL games for Brighton? The message is very clear for young English players. Move to a top 6 club if you want international career.
Tammy Abraham has nearly 50 caps for England from youth to senior level, he's already played for the senior team and already has more career goals than Callum Wilson despite being 6 years younger. I don't see anything controversial about people calling for his inclusion.Im all for giving young players a chance. But Kyle Walker being dropped make no sense. AWB has bright future. But if he didnt move to United would he have been picked ahead of Walker? People now saying Tammy Abraham should be on the squad. But would they been saying that if he played 4 PL games for Brighton? The message is very clear for young English players. Move to a top 6 club if you want international career.
Aye so stupid not picking someone who isn't eligible for England. Sounds like someone actually knows the rules, and it isn't you.and even more stupidly refused to pick Leon Bailey, when he spent year after year refusing callups by Jamaica****),
It would generally agree in light of Danny Rose's recent return to form, however when fit Shaw is definately good enough to be still selected for England.@Red Keane Rose and Chilwell aren't our best 2 left backs currently fit they are the best 2 left backs full stop
I don't overrate him myself, but he was still one of our better players last season and if there have been times when he has performed badly (for example against Barcelona), it is a consequence of having only Young & Darmian (while he was still here) as competition for that LB position.Agreed. Shaw is ridiculously overrated on here. Sloppy defensively and terrible going forward.
Hopefully those 2 turn out good this season considering the chances they going to be getting under OGS (Unless he decides to give Jones & Rojo yet another chance to mess up) & Lampard, because as the dire Under-21 performance has shown, there does not seem to be too many decent CB's at youth level. Same goes with the other 3 as well.With a bit of luck Tuanzebe or Tomori will be the fourth center-back for the Euros.....and in two years Godfrey, Panzo and T.Chalobah should be ready too.....so don't think too much about Mings
That might well be the case (Personally I feel that playing for England makes more sense from a footballing perspective), but until he did finally decide to actually play for Jamaica there was an opportunity to select him that we should have capitalised on.It's better he plays for Jamaica for reasons on and oustide of the pitch.
A lot of those have been recently selected in the last few years first got selected while playing for a Non-Top 6 side while even many of those who first got selected while playing for a Top 6 club only started to play on a regular basis at a Non-Top 6 club.Im all for giving young players a chance. But Kyle Walker being dropped make no sense. AWB has bright future. But if he didnt move to United would he have been picked ahead of Walker? People now saying Tammy Abraham should be on the squad. But would they been saying that if he played 4 PL games for Brighton? The message is very clear for young English players. Move to a top 6 club if you want international career.
To be fair, he did start getting callups while playing at Spurs. However one would also argue that he only started playing senior football on a regular basis while at Burnley. Thus putting him as one who developed his craft outside the Top-6.Trippier - Atletico Madrid
Surely Sancho would start ahead of Rashford? Who in turn should not be playing on the wing in the first place.I think he'll start with Sterling - Kane - Rashford ... that 3 has served him well so far.
Sancho will come on at about 60 minutes.
Some of Leon Bailey's Grandparents (at the very least) have British Citizenship while all of them (assuming they where all born in Jamaica) where born on a territory that was under British Rule at the time of their birth. So while it would cause problems under the Home Nations Agreement (which does not seem to cover British Citizens and their decendents of such that where born overseas), under FIFA rules he would be eligible to play for England right up to his call up for Jamaica for the Gold Cup matchsAye so stupid not picking someone who isn't eligible for England. Sounds like someone actually knows the rules, and it isn't you.
We do actually need to have decent squad options on the wing rather than resort to shoehorning Rashford & Lingard on the Wing. Because other than Sancho & Sterling, the only other decent options we have are Hudson-Odi (who is out for quite some time) and that's pretty much it. Otherwise the next players down the pecking order are Nelson, Townsend, Calvert-Lewin & Gray, not helped by the fact The FA pretty much disregarded Zaha (and let him play for the Ivory Coast) despite the fact he was undisputingly eligible to play for England (and in fact did so on 2 occasions).Bailey isn't even that good. Certainly nowhere near Sancho or Sterling.
Might have been a decent squad option but that's all.
Didn't stop us calling up both Barnes & Hargreaves though. Neither of which was a bad thing either.He also isn't English.