I don’t get likes, just infractions sadly
England supporters sustain serious injuries after pub attack by up to 100 German hooligans
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Not sure it's 100% whataboutism. If German hoolies were indiscriminate abroad like the English hooligans then yes, any wider discussion is a distraction. But maybe there is a reason they targeted England fans. Also this may be the beginning of a wave of German fans being twats abroad, as was suggested earlier but until then it's worth discussing.
Bugger, @moses beat me to it.I don’t get likes, just infractions sadly
Whatever.
Riveting debate lads.
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England fans haven't caused any large scale disorder at a game in yeeeears but clearly the memories of 80s/90s/early 00s are going to take a long time to shift.
Pathetic behaviour really! Hurting innocent people is a no go… especially if there’s kids who are there. Police best up there game, although it won’t be easy finding them all especially if they had masks on.
You forgetting the Euro’s final last year? What a shit show that was.
Forgetting a big recent one there
Seen the video.......highlight was when it was kicking off any you couldn't see anything, but the loud chants of green Street ultras shouting "ENGERLLANNNDDDD" was coming thru when the ladz realised a brawl was about to break out
Who are The Green Street Ultras?
Sorry, I coined the bar wrong, it's actually called the green man.
That was just ticketless hoards jumping gates etc - I don't really count that as the same ballpark personally.
The Green Man Ultras? That’s the name of the pub it happened as far as I know
Do you lump that in with the riots in Belgium of euro 2000/ Munich 2001 etc? Let alone Dublin 1995.
I personally don't. Totally different background to it blah blah.
@moses should receive two likes for beating you at liking a post.
Some very typical English xenophobia in here, not unsurprising in the slightest.
Do you mean English people being xenophobic or anti English xenophobia? Either way it's a bit of a xenophobic post.
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I think the reality is that any violence associated with the football team is under one umbrella. Marseilles in 2016 and Porto in 2019? are just the same as the more right wing organised stuff in the 80's to the uninformed.
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Sure - but my point is it's not the same!
And Marseille 2016 is a bit harsh, that was fat geezers getting chased all around the town by Russian MMA fighters
. Like a large scale version of this kick off last night.Aye, we both agree if you get into it, it's not the same, but my point is in context of last night being some bizarre misguided retaliation as a few posters hinted at, then the differences as you see it won't be explored and in the narrative the Russian MMA's will be lost as the common denominator will be English fans and English flags.Sure - but my point is it's not the same!
And Marseille 2016 is a bit harsh, that was fat geezers getting chased all around the town by Russian MMA fighters
Even people I know who were at that game in Ireland who saw the banners don't see that as an outlier, they just think that's what happens every time a lairy England fan gets on the news.
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I've never heard of German ultras attacking a venue like that. Must be a first.
Hopefully just a one off by a bunch of twats and not part of any wider context.
Hopefully all the CCTV will lead to a lot of convictions otherwise I'm not sure how anyone other than the idiots can put an end to it.
We need to stop calling these pathetic morons "ultras". It sounds far too cool. We need another word.
Twats?
didn't they attack Rangers fans in a similar way at the europa league final
Actually shot by the military or the police.
I got there with my 10 y/old son just as it kicked off.
As we walk across the car park I could see a big lump wearing a skull face mask and Union Jack hat, plus around 20-30 other “lads” behind them.
We stopped and moved back to the entrance and then heard an almighty roar. They literally ran in, whacked people and ran off. One German was left behind and got a bit of a kicking.
I didn’t see any weapons, and as mentioned I reckon there was probably 30 of them but very well organised
police were absolutely useless. They arrived when the Germans (apart from one) were already gone. One copper sat in the wagon and wouldn’t get out despite people screaming at him asking for help.
How they missed a big group of blokes, all in black, walking around is anybodies guess. Personally I think they’re the “there was 100 Germans armed with machetes etc” to cover for their own inadequacies.
Once calmed down we went into the beer garden and it was pretty bad. 4 or 5 mainly older men had blood coming from them but we’re conscious.
this morning on the flight back to Prague, there was a group of a dozen Germans with some cuts and One with a black eye. I’d guess that they’re either Dresden or Leipzig (Poss Munich) as both are only a couple of hours from here.
As we walk across the car park I could see a big lump wearing a skull face mask and Union Jack hat, plus around 20-30 other “lads” behind them.
We stopped and moved back to the entrance and then heard an almighty roar. They literally ran in, whacked people and ran off. One German was left behind and got a bit of a kicking.
I didn’t see any weapons, and as mentioned I reckon there was probably 30 of them but very well organised
police were absolutely useless. They arrived when the Germans (apart from one) were already gone. One copper sat in the wagon and wouldn’t get out despite people screaming at him asking for help.
How they missed a big group of blokes, all in black, walking around is anybodies guess. Personally I think they’re the “there was 100 Germans armed with machetes etc” to cover for their own inadequacies.
Once calmed down we went into the beer garden and it was pretty bad. 4 or 5 mainly older men had blood coming from them but we’re conscious.
this morning on the flight back to Prague, there was a group of a dozen Germans with some cuts and One with a black eye. I’d guess that they’re either Dresden or Leipzig (Poss Munich) as both are only a couple of hours from here.
Hooligans?
I think Ultras is basically the German word for the more fanatical fans, who are both more likely to create atmosphere in the stadium (singing, banners, flags, etc), and (possibly just a subsection) to be involved in violence.
So yeah, hooligans.
Yet most of the European clubs who have fans called Ultras fear those Ultras. A number seemed have turned it from being very enthusiastic to being a violent, intimidating faction who at times threaten the clubs they supposedly support.
Was a bit more than jumping gates no? I saw videos of people beating the heads of each other
Yeah - but I think it makes sense to split off the undesirable element of ultras behaviour (the violence) to not smear their desirable in-game activities with the same brush.
I reckon mr farage got his German wife to organize it and remind you guys of the bad Europeans out there
we all know that the true bad european is @moses. for him, 7 minutes of scrapping is but a mere warm up.