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All good for Stokes to go around coward punching blokes and nearly killing them. We can get behind that. But woe betide the moron players that committed similar acts as Atherton, Panesar, and multiple other players across every single team.
I’m with you. Well said.
I'm enjoying the match, if anyone's asking.
What Stokes did was a thuggish act and he should criticized for it but it’s nothing that doesn’t go on with lads his age in every town centre in both the UK and AUS every Friday night. Warner himself got suspended for a massive two games for punching an England player a few years ago.
David Warner is booed because he’s a total prick. He acts like a cnut on the field and he acts like a cnut off it and has for his whole career. Just an all round shit bloke.
Thought Stokes was defending two gay blokes that were being abused? He took on two blokes as well didn’t he, one a former soldier and bouncer. Didn’t seem like a cowardly assault from what I read anyway, unless you’re referring to a different case I don’t know about.
What Stokes did was a thuggish act and he should criticized for it but it’s nothing that doesn’t go on with lads his age in every town centre in both the UK and AUS every Friday night. Warner himself got suspended for a massive two games for punching an England player a few years ago.
David Warner is booed because he’s a total prick. He acts like a cnut on the field and he acts like a cnut off it and has for his whole career. Just an all round shit bloke.
Whatever the truth about the whole incident (I’ve heard contrasting stories) it was clearly unprofessional and inappropriate for Stokes to do what he did. Of course it’s ludicrous to take the moral high ground on thuggery when defending David fecking Warner though.
My wife suffered a miscarriage earlier this year and I still as much sympathy for Warner as he did for Jonathan Trott.
Cool, this isn't a competition anyway.
And Bayliss should also face the music. I'm not going out of my way to hate on Root, as you mention he's as much of a victim of circumstance as anyone, but he was the captain and star batsman who presided over that rubbish yesterday, it shouldn't fall to the batting coach to talk to the media.
The two gay blokes confirmed his version of events after the case finished at least.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-say-ben-stokes-did-not-deserve-to-face-trial
Moving the county championship to extremities of the season to facilitate the one day stuff and ultimately creating a generation of players who focus on shorter formats is a different issue to the event of the World Cup and any of its subsequent side effects. Obviously there's an interdependency there but I was just talking about the World Cup as a discrete event.
It's very concerning that even with Graham Thorpe as coach who fully understands the art of test match batting, there seems to be little progression in formulating plans for pitches and attacks, staying disciplined and then cashing in on the older ball and a tiring attack.
He seems to be afflicted by Bayliss's insane willingness to say downright stupid things to the press:
"We've got to keep working with these players because these are the best players we have," he told TMS.
"We can look at our domestic game and what we have out there and there aren't heaps coming through at the moment."
Yep, that's the way to do it. Tell those in the county game that it's not worth their time because the management think they're worse than 67 all out.
The path to Test Cricket in this country is to biff runs in One Day stuff, nothing else matters.
There is a large part of me just wondering if this bunch are all a bit light in between the ears. So far the most effective English batsman this series has been the guy who went away to his mentor and worked on a few fundamentals. This suggests firstly that the coaches in the England camp basically do bugger all and secondly that none of the senior batsmen have a clue about the weaknesses in their game.
There was a CricViz piece about Joe Root's backlift last year and nothing has changed since.
Kindof mad to think Mitchell Starc is yet to feature in this series.
Nasser Hussain made an interesting point on comms about Starc's average vs top order batsman being pretty high and Starc's average vs tailenders being absurdly low. Overall I don't think Starc fits in with Australia's plans to dry up England's boundaries and force them into mistakes.
Also pretty mad is the fact that this is the first time that Cummins, Pattinson and Hazelwood have played together in test matches.
Yeah the Aussies have got a brilliant battery of fast bowlers haven't they. They'll be a force for a good few years with that squad.
Good points. One would think though with the swing that he gets, that he would be very effective in England.
Labuschagne has been immense. Should come in for Head or Paine once Smith is fit. Ideally bring in both him & Carey and drop those 2.
Seems another talented loss for us, & a gain for the Aus.
Think he's been in Aus for a while though hasn't he? He certainly speaks with an Aussie accent.
Not like Pietersen where we basically took him fully formed.
Yh he emigrated as a young child. Cricket educated in Oz.
Came over as a 10 year old, Has probably the most Aussie accent out of all the players though.
Where is the spinner? Ball is 60+ overs old.
Fecking Bairstow
Sick of these part time Aussie leg spinners turning into excellent batsman.
Heard holding say starc averages 70 Vs top five and 5 Vs bottom five. I've always felt starc was a bit of a stat padder - unplayable to tail enders. But that seemed outrageous.
5 vs bottom five?
That's the statistic I was referring to, thought it was Nasser and not Holding, probably wrong.
Cook kept going back to a non-ECB coach when he got in ruts, too.
I just don't think this England side have had a coach for four years if you listen to what the players say Bayliss does. He's a sounding board, and a nice bloke to have a chat to, but not a coach. In fact, I'm sure he's on record saying he doesn't think it is his responsibility to work on the technical side of players games at this level.
I think Dobell has suggested that he could be replaced by a potted plant, but that might be a bit harsh on the plant.
In fairness to Thorpe, I doubt that's what he actually thinks. He was trying to be diplomatic about his charges and fecked up, I think, but it's another in a line of people saying downright daft things in the England set up.
Yeah, 100% good point. From wiki, seems they moved when he was 10. So all his development is certainly due to Aus.
Still the Saffa raw talent though
That Aussie physio has been at the crease longer than England's batsmen this series.
Why no short leg for Archer? He's beating up the Aussie batsmen.
Chances of England being outscored on aggregate by Labuschagne alone?
I’ve been concerned about you lately so I’m glad to hear it
Are you reading the BBC match tracker?
I'm hoping England astonish us all and chase down this 350 or whatever it is..
Keeps the series alive.
No. Did the cnuts steal my comment?