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Root definitely should be allowed to play his natural game, he can be the bedrock for all the rest to go off playing Bazball.

Harry Brookes, not quite sure what to make of him, he's absolutely unbelievable at the minute. Hope they don't mess around shifting him about the order.
Agree on Root. He should just bat how he does for the ODI team!

Doubt they'll move Brook. Bairstow will come in for Foakes and they may even bring Buttler in at the top for a punt.
 

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Agree on Root. He should just bat how he does for the ODI team!

Doubt they'll move Brook. Bairstow will come in for Foakes and they may even bring Buttler in at the top for a punt.
Could you imagine if they put Buttler in to open, or some other big hitter. It's obviously a gamble but they have the safety net of Brookes and Root afterwards. If it came off the bowlers would be demoralised before lunch on the first day if they had been twatted all over the ground.
 

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Agree on Root. He should just bat how he does for the ODI team!

Doubt they'll move Brook. Bairstow will come in for Foakes and they may even bring Buttler in at the top for a punt.
Yeah, would be amazing!!

And it's punk, so right up our street.
 

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Dreadful decision to enforce follow on,fecking hell we could have batted them out of the game with that lead of 226
 

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Always looks better with hindsight but I was surprised they didn’t bat again. The pitch seems to have flattened out but this will be a tough chase.

This is Bazball - 50 overs is all what they need to chase this down. What will be interesting is if England will keep going for the target if they lose a few wickets or do they get more pragmatic and try to draw.

This match is interestingly poised to say the least.
 

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Always looks better with hindsight but I was surprised they didn’t bat again. The pitch seems to have flattened out but this will be a tough chase.
Would say this was the first misstep of the Stokes-Mccullum regime.

To pick two opening bowlers with a combined age of 76, ignore the need for pace and then enforce the follow-on seems very complacent.
 
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Would say this was the first misstep of the Stokes-Mccullum regime.

To pick two opening bowlers with a combined age of 36, ignore the need for pace and then enforce the follow-on seems very complacent.
Yeah I would agree. Given Stokes' knee isn't quite right either, it really was a bad decision to follow on.

I know they want to win every Test but it could end up costing them a series win.
 

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Yeah I would agree. Given Stokes' knee isn't quite right either, it really was a bad decision to follow on.

I know they want to win every Test but it could end up costing them a series win.
Yep. That should have been 76 btw, not 36!!
 

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Wonder if they're been listening to the rumours that this pitch always improves for batsmen as it gets older.
 

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This is Bazball - 50 overs is all what they need to chase this down. What will be interesting is if England will keep going for the target if they lose a few wickets or do they get more pragmatic and try to draw.

This match is interestingly poised to say the least.
There’s no chance this England don’t go after 200 unless there’s under a session to go…and even then.

Even a team that sets out to play defensively on this pitch is likely to score 200 in a full days play. A draw is never going to happen unless we get a washout.
 

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Well I figured there was a chance I’d see the end of the match before going to sleep tonight, but not in this way.

Gower blaming Root but surely that’s Brook’s call to refuse the run?
 

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Will be a really harsh lesson but one England need to learn under the Bazball era. The follow on was such a bad decision now with hindsight and everything else today has compounded it.
 

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Well done Stokes, been smart making sure he was there at lunch, hopefully he will help to see it home.
 

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9/1 for NZ with England needing 70 and NZ needing 5 wickets seems incredibly good value
 

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so nerve wracking.

9/1 for NZ with England needing 70 and NZ needing 5 wickets seems incredibly good value
looked like a great bet when root got out! Honestly thought we were done at that moment.
 

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What a result :eek:

England got too cocky and complacent with the follow on.
Nah, it was probably the right call given the history of the wicket there. NZ just climbed into the game magnificently, and Eng threw some wickets away.

Madness Eng-NZ don't play longer test series. Arguably the two best test sides in the world and their conditions are really comparable.
 

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Great finish, well done to NZ.

I wouldn't have enforced the follow-on more down to having 2 35+ seamers and another with fitness issues but can't really criticise Stokes. It's always been the case that playing in this style would at times leave England looking a little stupid, on this occasion that happened but on another day Anderson would have scored the winning runs and he'd have everyone calling him a genius again.
 

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Great finish, well done to NZ.

I wouldn't have enforced the follow-on more down to having 2 35+ seamers and another with fitness issues but can't really criticise Stokes. It's always been the case that playing in this style would at times leave England looking a little stupid, on this occasion that happened but on another day Anderson would have scored the winning runs and he'd have everyone calling him a genius again.
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