Thats gutting
Memories of Alex Tudor.
Memories of Alex Tudor.
English cricket thread
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What in the name of all that's holy is that about?!?! A run out is unforgivable nearly always in test matches, but in this situation especially so! Absolutely criminal....
We'll need at least 350.
Bairstow's place looking very vulnerable now.
You mean 350 for the innings so 228 lead, or 350 lead?
I'm not sure they'd chase 228 to be honest. Oh here we go, another wicket as I'm typing but straight to review.
I'm watching on phone at work so a bit behind, is it out?
Yep.
Got to wonder whether Foakes would be a better option. He's clearly a better keeper than Bairstow and couldn't be doing much worse as a batsman.
Couldn't agree more mate. This goes back to an earlier post of mine about players being 'undroppable'. Bairstow's numbers have been posted in here and they don't make for great reading. Personally I'd be surprised if they dropped him but I agree with you, they definitely should.
He needs a kick up the backside and Foakes took to test cricket like a duck to water so I'd happily see him given another chance.
In terms of the match it's starting to look a bit dodgy now. Half the wickets down although one was a night watchman. Going to struggle to set them 200 to win at this rate.
Close to 350 for the innings, lead of 200+, although starting to look increasingly unlikely now.
Normally, you would back Ali & Root to put some runs together though.
Why the hell would send out a night watchman half way though the afternoon?
The night watchman (Leach) went in last night as England had 1 over to bat before stumps. He's now out so 5th wicket down effectively brought in number 6 in the order rather than 7 like it normally would.Why the hell would send out a night watchman half way though the afternoon?
I'd seriously consider dropping bairstow.
His recent test scores in England read 0, 6,0,0,18,0,0.
His keeping isn't good enough either, for some reason his place in the side doesn't get questioned but he's been shocking for a while now.
In fact feck it. I'd drop him. Bring foakes in
His recent test scores in England read 0, 6,0,0,18,0,0.
His keeping isn't good enough either, for some reason his place in the side doesn't get questioned but he's been shocking for a while now.
In fact feck it. I'd drop him. Bring foakes in
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Old boys club init. He's mates with the captain. Boycott's a family friend etc...
Oh, and he plays with INTENT for his 0s so Bayliss loves him.
Seems like his batting's dropped off a cliff since he got into the ODI side. He just tries to biff it now, hence why he keeps getting bowled.
England were taking the piss starting the game with Ali at 6.
I'm not even sure Bayliss will be aware of any of recent Test stats.
He looks like he couldn't give a shit about test cricket which makes sense when you see how we've been at test cricket the last 5 years
Moeen should be number 11.
He cannot bat in any format anymore.
All on Root now.
He cannot bat in any format anymore.
All on Root now.
Moeen's another one whose place must be in jeopardy. Like Bairstow, his main USP is his batting and he's not contributing at all.
If we pick Woakes at 8 for the Ashes we can include a specialist spinner, which means Leach could come in.
If we pick Woakes at 8 for the Ashes we can include a specialist spinner, which means Leach could come in.
Moeens bowling has been pretty good recently I think, is it good enough on its own to get him in the side though? I dunno.
He's completely fallen apart as a batsman, he's a walking wicket much like Bairstow is.
Moeen can only get into the team for his bowling, so depends on how he and Leach do I guess in Ireland's second innings. I think it would be best though if he went away and played County Cricket for the summer, playing in the Blast might even be beneficial ahead of the T20 World Cup next year.
Root out.
We're going to lose a test match to fecking Ireland .
We're going to lose a test match to fecking Ireland .
It's all gone pear shaped 
126/8.. This could actually happen
One of the most disgraceful tests in England's history. And that's saying something.
Aside from the Roy and Leach partnership it's been complete and utter shit from every batsman.
Aside from the Roy and Leach partnership it's been complete and utter shit from every batsman.
Hussain absolutely ripped apart England there . Everyone getting out playing expansive shots
He was spot on for once.
It's a disgrace TBH
No sarcasm. Appalling.
This is going to be a long Ashes, problem is we've seen the getting out to rash shots happen time after time for a while now.
Some of the shots have been baffling.
They all sat there and watched how Jack Leach played and saw him score 92.
And theyve one by one gone out and done the exact opposite to him. It's mental.
Broad will be out soon trying to smash the bowler out of the ground, instead of just blocking and trying to support Curran. I guarantee it.
Quite the contrary imo, might be the shortest Ashes ever.
150-160 would be a good watch but Sam Curran is the destroyer of dreams..
Plenty of finishes on day 2 I'll bet.
These could be match winning runs from these two.
Really don't know what to make of England batting performance over 2 innings.
I think what is happening is ODI and test cricket are more fundamentally different skills than ever before.
And so most England batters have intensely calibrated their skills towards ODI format, and it takes a lot longer than 7 days to switch skillset into the test format. Hence they look terrible in tests right now. Will probably continue til start of 2nd test.
Thats the only thing that makes sense.
I think what is happening is ODI and test cricket are more fundamentally different skills than ever before.
And so most England batters have intensely calibrated their skills towards ODI format, and it takes a lot longer than 7 days to switch skillset into the test format. Hence they look terrible in tests right now. Will probably continue til start of 2nd test.
Thats the only thing that makes sense.
That all would make sense if this was a one off thing for this test but the issue is they've been doing this for years now.
We didn't lose all ten wickets in one session from 1938 to 2016.
We've done it 4 times since, almost 5.
I think having a coach totally uninterested in test cricket doesn't help things.
Does Murtagh become the 2nd player to be on the home and away dressing rooms of Lord's?
Chris Rogers being the other.
Chris Rogers being the other.
He's gone after the Ashes.
He was hired to win the World Cup and we did it so I'm sure the ECB will think its job done.
But our test cricket under him has been just shit. The batting anyway. Any game we've won in the last 5 years stems from Root or Cook managing to get a big score.
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