Denis79
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That's just evil... Our tea is terrible.Made them drink Serbian tea
That's just evil... Our tea is terrible.Made them drink Serbian tea
They'll be alright as long as they don't pick Hart.
Problem is that some of our fans are still under the illusion that we rule the world, when in fact they will find we have fallen down the pecking order a bit. That foreigners are stupid, when in fact the ones being shown as stupid and ignorant are them. Living in the past, we won the war, we won the World Cup, we gave football to the world. It is infuriating watching them.Welshman here, far from anti-English - lived there for 12yrs, most of my mates are English. I'm far from a chest-beating patriotic Welshman who lvoes 'getting one over on England'.
But English football fans abroad are the absolute pits.
Even in France when they were targeted by the Russians. The defence/narrative was 'just football fans singing and having a good time'. It wasn't. The England fans they were showing were singing, alright. But they were singing baretop, arms spread out to the side, aggressive confrontational provocative chanting. That sort of body language and tone of voice is pure "come and have a go". They cannot be surprised when people take them up on it.
This, basically. It’s very sad reallyProblem is that some of our fans are still under the illusion that we rule the world, when in fact they will find we have fallen down the pecking order a bit. That foreigners are stupid, when in fact the ones being shown as stupid and ignorant are them. Living in the past, we won the war, we won the World Cup, we gave football to the world. It is infuriating watching them.
I used to attempt to mitigate my fellow England fans' antics with all sorts of spurious BS about "banter" and "heavy handed policing", but it just gets to a point when a such obfuscation is completely ridiculous. For all the stuff that is written over here about other nations' backward, regressive & illiberal attitudes towards hooliganism take a look at the boorish, anti-social and downright thuggish behaviour of our own "supporters" abroad.Problem is that some of our fans are still under the illusion that we rule the world, when in fact they will find we have fallen down the pecking order a bit. That foreigners are stupid, when in fact the ones being shown as stupid and ignorant are them. Living in the past, we won the war, we won the World Cup, we gave football to the world. It is infuriating watching them.
Yep Luton Town and Scunthorpe United fans dressed head to toe in Aquascutum and Stone Island.Would wage that 80-90% of England away fans are the Brexit Tommy Robinson type Carling drinking bellends coming to a Wetherspoons near you.
That's just embarrassing, cowards the lot of 'em, everybody knows you can't have a fair fight if you can't pull their t-shirt/jumper over their head so they can't see what direction the blows are coming from
Not sure .
I actually have a lot of respect for Gareth Southgate saying we should get our own house in order regarding racism when hauling other countries over the coals for it. Hooliganism is raising it's ugly head again. I actually do blame brexit for it, that these neanderthals think they now have the right to do what the hell they like. It was raised on the radio the other day that it could be that a lot of the banning orders are now expiring and these cretins are on the loose again.I used to attempt to mitigate my fellow England fans' antics with all sorts of spurious BS about "banter" and "heavy handed policing", but it just gets to a point when a such obfuscation is completely ridiculous. For all the stuff that is written over here about other nations' backward, regressive & illiberal attitudes towards hooliganism take a look at the boorish, anti-social and downright thuggish behaviour of our own "supporters" abroad.
Hope they all have a jolly-up in the former Soviet Union and see where it gets the mardy little clowns
That's just embarrassing, cowards the lot of 'em, everybody knows you can't have a fair fight if you can't pull their t-shirt/jumper over their head so they can't see what direction the blows are coming from
Still the oppurtinity for an atomic wedgie though .That's just embarrassing, cowards the lot of 'em, everybody knows you can't have a fair fight if you can't pull their t-shirt/jumper over their head so they can't see what direction the blows are coming from
Again I think we can't swallow what the media are feeding us. England and the Uk in general have a problem with binge drinking, which can lead to wankerish behaviour. That doesn't mean there is a rise in football holiganism. Which is a very, very different thing.I actually have a lot of respect for Gareth Southgate saying we should get our own house in order regarding racism when hauling other countries over the coals for it. Hooliganism is raising it's ugly head again. I actually do blame brexit for it, that these neanderthals think they now have the right to do what the hell they like. It was raised on the radio the other day that it could be that a lot of the banning orders are now expiring and these cretins are on the loose again.
I agree about the drinking, but that has been a problem for years, not just with football fans. The English just cannot behave when they have drunk too much, or more that they don't know when they have had too much drink. Maybe they need educating.Again I think we can't swallow what the media are feeding us. England and the Uk in general have a problem with binge drinking, which can lead to wankerish behaviour. That doesn't mean there is a rise in football holiganism. Which is a very, very different thing.
Yeah, and knee-pads
I bet they're wearing cricket boxes too, to avoid a swift elbow to the Travellers whilst they've got some lager lout in a headlock. Soft shites.
Wouldn't work with the Russians though, to a man, and I use the word Man loosely they're probably all wearing a MankiniStill the oppurtinity for an atomic wedgie though .
Nah, they definitely were the ones that made crap illiterate statuses about it. Something about 'takin the countrie back'. Then ignored everything since.Nah - they were the ones who didn’t bother to vote
‘Some’ English abroad. Tar, same brush etc.The English abroad eh!? I can't think of a worse set of people for the locals to have to deal with than us. Least when the Irish get pissed they're merry and have a laugh.
Ha I'm Northern Irish, I'm not gonna say I don't on occasion have a few too many, not so much now I'm married with kids but when I was younger sure. What I never done though was act like a twat in a harmful or threatening way. It will take more than education, in the UK more than anywhere else I have been in Europe the dangers of alcohol are shoved in our faces to no real improvement of the situation.I agree about the drinking, but that has been a problem for years, not just with football fans. The English just cannot behave when they have drunk too much, or more that they don't know when they have had too much drink. Maybe they need educating.
Honestly think it will be a complete shitstorm and that's not even mentioning the problems of racism in Russia. Could be worse I guess, the Italians could be there with there section of anti semitic fans.Well, this is teeing up nicely for the world cup. What with the disintegration of British relations with Russia because of the nerve agent attack, and the vids of the English fans in Holland I imagine the 'Ultras' are going to be toning their biceps and plotting their attacks!
They keep harping on about footballers being role models. Well I bet some of this lot have somehow managed to become parents, probably needed written directions, yet they cannot seem to grow up, that with age you really should be setting an example. We have all been worse for wear at some time, but as you say it is how you behave after that.Ha I'm Northern Irish, I'm not gonna say I don't on occasion have a few too many, not so much now I'm married with kids but when I was younger sure. What I never done though was act like a twat in a harmful or threatening way. It will take more than education, in the UK more than anywhere else I have been in Europe the dangers of alcohol are shoved in our faces to no real improvement of the situation.
Again I think we can't swallow what the media are feeding us. England and the Uk in general have a problem with binge drinking, which can lead to wankerish behaviour. That doesn't mean there is a rise in football holiganism. Which is a very, very different thing.
Supposedly the generation coming up drink a lot less now, they are even dubbed as 'generation sensible'. I hope that going forward the drinking culture does change.I agree about the drinking, but that has been a problem for years, not just with football fans. The English just cannot behave when they have drunk too much, or more that they don't know when they have had too much drink. Maybe they need educating.
That could be the case, as some of these seemed older. Just wait until next time they ask the missus if it's Ok to go for a weekend away with the lads.Supposedly the generation coming up drink a lot less now, they are even dubbed as 'generation sensible'. I hope that going forward the drinking culture does change.
That's not the truth though is it?I think it’s fair to say that if English fans get attacked in Russia, it would be more likely due to their bad behavior, and not because they were targeted in particular. I don’t expect many here to agree with me. Most people like to deny the truth.
I feel sorry for the innocent English fans who simply travel to watch and enjoy the game. It hurts to know that they might end up getting caught up in unfortunate events due to no fault of theirs.
Without generalising too much, a lot of these fans follow lower-division clubs in England. They've been left behind by the PL revolution and they yearn for the old days, before Sky TV et al.I find it weird the way some England fans behave abroad. Domestically there is limited hooliganism compared to yesteryear however when you get groups of fans from all the different divisions together they seem to behave like utter animals when overseas.
ThisEngland away games, especially to places like Amsterdam, are mainly attended by fans from lower league clubs who never get those big european away days with their club. They get over there and it's all brand new for them, they are part of massive mob of fans who inevitably drink too much and they feel untouchable and behave like animals.
On a side note I will add there is trouble every time an English team goes to Amsterdam. United, City and Chelsea have all had trouble over the past few years and from first hand experience I can tell you it isn't always the English fans who are to blame.
I hope so, and hope it simply hasn't been replaced by something else.Supposedly the generation coming up drink a lot less now, they are even dubbed as 'generation sensible'. I hope that going forward the drinking culture does change.
they will have a smartphone standoff. Pwoper nauwtySupposedly the generation coming up drink a lot less now, they are even dubbed as 'generation sensible'. I hope that going forward the drinking culture does change.
Hilarious spoofLook out, England fans in Wussia:
This.Problem is that some of our fans are still under the illusion that we rule the world, when in fact they will find we have fallen down the pecking order a bit. That foreigners are stupid, when in fact the ones being shown as stupid and ignorant are them. Living in the past, we won the war, we won the World Cup, we gave football to the world. It is infuriating watching them.
They most probably didnt go to the actual matchThing is this isn't different behaviour for these sort of fans, this is what they do at home on a night out. Simply identify them and ban them from future matches.